interesting, mpeg4 and xp sp2

SiXXGuNNZ · 2nd June 2004, 23:29

the last three builds have not been able to play mpeg4 streams(divx/xvid), build 2135, 2138 & now 2142

is microsoft trying to tell us something?

just thought this was rather interesting, since it seems like a deliberate bug

edit: feel free to move me wherever, I didn't see a general mpeg4 posting section

SeeMoreDigital · 2nd June 2004, 23:42

That's odd!

I've only tried short (120sec) clips but on the systems where I've installed SP2 RC1, they've worked OK for me - even in WMP9.

Cheers

SiXXGuNNZ · 3rd June 2004, 00:02

just tried a nero digital, it plays fine in the mp4 container, if I export the video it does not play tho

also, yes, rc1 works just fine, these are pre-rc2 builds

I think it worked fine up until the 2135 build, I know it worked fine for sure wuith the public rc1 2096 build

edit: ok, it seems that nero showtime is playing them just fine, any container, xvid/divx/nero

winamp, wmp 9 and 10, mpc, vdubmod, zoomplayer pro and even gspot will not open the files, and if you thumbnail view them, explorer crashes

edit part 2: if you uninstall the divx codec/decoder, xvid plays them just fine, so it is an issue with divx networks

SeeMoreDigital · 3rd June 2004, 00:06

What exactly do you mean by 'export' the video?

Cheers

SiXXGuNNZ · 3rd June 2004, 00:07

Quote:

Originally posted by SeeMoreDigital
What exactly do you mean by 'export' the video?

Cheers

open the mp4 in mp4ui and export video as avi

I did a second edit up above, looks like it is the divx decoder, maybe this needs moved to the divx forum

CruNcher · 3rd June 2004, 01:34

i use build 2126 no problems but this sounds spooky if it realy stops working with newer builds, you mean mpeg4 in avi without a signed player does not work anymore ? oh mised your last post add then it's fine man that would be horror if even filters had to be signed now :P

SeeMoreDigital · 3rd June 2004, 11:06

Quote:

Originally posted by SiXXGuNNZ
open the mp4 in mp4ui and export video as avi

I did a second edit up above, looks like it is the divx decoder, maybe this needs moved to the divx forum

I was afraid of that. MP4UI is not the best tool for doing this as it renders the stream unstable.

Also, regardless of the streams source (in your case Nero Mpeg4) MP4UI will display the 4CC as being DivX4. And changing the 4CC to Nero's 'NDIG' 4CC code will not help either.

This probably explains why your 'exports' don't work.

Cheers

bond · 3rd June 2004, 11:30

if it really doesnt work anymore with higher builds, maybe m$ updated their avi splitter in a way mpeg-4 placed in it will not be supported anymore?

CruNcher · 3rd June 2004, 11:34

Quote:

Originally posted by bond
if it really doesnt work anymore with higher builds, maybe m$ updated their avi splitter in a way mpeg-4 placed in it will not be supported anymore?

No don't think so they couldn't justify that step but the signed filters only could be justified as another security measurement which would be absolutely bad for FREE/OSS codecs

SeeMoreDigital · 3rd June 2004, 12:04

Hmm, hopefully the final SP2 release will be OK (remember all those annoying problems with SP1).

By the way I started a thread about SP2 here.

Cheers

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SeeMoreDigital Life looks better in HDTV Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: UK Posts: 10,009	That's odd! I've only tried short (120sec) clips but on the systems where I've installed SP2 RC1, they've worked OK for me - even in WMP9. Cheers __________________ Still confused about anamorphic images? Then look here! \| Main Encoding Interests: Hardware device playback \| My Gear \|

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SiXXGuNNZ Your Buddy Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: WA, USA Posts: 299	just tried a nero digital, it plays fine in the mp4 container, if I export the video it does not play tho also, yes, rc1 works just fine, these are pre-rc2 builds I think it worked fine up until the 2135 build, I know it worked fine for sure wuith the public rc1 2096 build edit: ok, it seems that nero showtime is playing them just fine, any container, xvid/divx/nero winamp, wmp 9 and 10, mpc, vdubmod, zoomplayer pro and even gspot will not open the files, and if you thumbnail view them, explorer crashes edit part 2: if you uninstall the divx codec/decoder, xvid plays them just fine, so it is an issue with divx networks __________________ 10,000 Bullets 10,000 Bullets Forums Exploring the world of Cinema from the Arthouse to the Grindhouse™ Last edited by SiXXGuNNZ; 3rd June 2004 at 00:06.

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CruNcher Registered User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Germany Posts: 2,706	i use build 2126 no problems but this sounds spooky if it realy stops working with newer builds, you mean mpeg4 in avi without a signed player does not work anymore ? oh mised your last post add then it's fine man that would be horror if even filters had to be signed now :P __________________ all my compares are riddles so please try to decipher them yourselves :) current Main XviD PSNRLab version 1.1 current XviD PSNRLab update 1.1.3 MT1389xx Player Infos XviD EDP Build CVS (CruNchers Visual System ©) V 1.4 new with predefined profiles ;) Code: Olivera: "We're expendable assets" "and we've just been expended" "It's not a trick it's a Sony Rootkit" pwnz :devil: :angry: :rolleyes: Last edited by CruNcher; 3rd June 2004 at 01:41.

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