Xvid 1.0 crashes Explorer

adoniscik · 2nd June 2004, 19:19

Is it the encoder or the decoder? I just want to know whether installing the next version of xvid will solve the problem with my existing files, or whether I will have to re-encode them.

Nic · 2nd June 2004, 19:28

The directshow decoder being used to decode XviD is the cause of the problem. Depending on what that is.

Please post more information and read the sticky post about posting bugs, for the kind of information we need.

-Nic

adoniscik · 2nd June 2004, 20:18

Right... the details are:

Codec version 1.0, with (Y,UV) deblocking postprocessing.

xvid causes Windows (XP Pro) Explorer to crash "nvcpl.dll" (Detonator version 56.72), even in List mode with "Details" disabled.

The encoder settings are AS@L5, AVS Best quantizer, MSP6, VHQ1, Turbo, Trellis quantization.

The container is AVI, with AC3 muxed in VirtualDubMod 1.5.10.1

celtic_druid · 3rd June 2004, 04:37

Disabling the windows thumbnail shell integration thing should solve it.

RPT · 14th October 2004, 05:55

Quote:

Disabling the windows thumbnail shell integration thing should solve it

How does one do that? I'm having the same problem. thx.

sysKin · 14th October 2004, 06:09

I'm still looking for a person who can debug this problem, no luck so far.

I was once told that switching desktop colour depth from 16bits to 32bits fixes this problem. Can someone confirm that, please?

Radek

dragongodz · 14th October 2004, 07:09

i found running bigfix
http://forums.divx.com/viewtopic.php...=54711&forum=1
and letting it fix any video and audio problems it found(but unticked removing ffdshow etc) fixed instabilities for me.

so it would be nice if someone with the problem could try that aswell and say if it works for them aswell or not.

Yong · 14th October 2004, 07:39

Run the registry editor, find the word video thumbnail extractor, rename the key {xxxx...} to {xxxx...}+ or what ever u like(just make it easy to rename back).
Then all video file(ogm, mpg, wmv, avi...) will not display the thumbnail after this action.
This solution should be add to the General AV FAQ or somewhere...

Ark · 14th October 2004, 09:10

Quote:

Originally posted by sysKin
I'm still looking for a person who can debug this problem, no luck so far.

I was once told that switching desktop colour depth from 16bits to 32bits fixes this problem. Can someone confirm that, please?

Radek

Unfortunately doing that doesn't change anything on my machine (WinXP Pro), Explorer still crashes.

dragongodz · 14th October 2004, 12:31

Ark - it would be nice if you could try running bigfix aswell and see if that has any effect.

Ark · 14th October 2004, 13:26

Quote:

Originally posted by Yong
Run the registry editor, find the word video thumbnail extractor, rename the key {xxxx...} to {xxxx...}+ or what ever u like(just make it easy to rename back).
Then all video file(ogm, mpg, wmv, avi...) will not display the thumbnail after this action.
This solution should be add to the General AV FAQ or somewhere...

What exactly I've to change?

I found the string "video thumbnail extractor", but in the window where usually you can change the values there're 2 forms, 1 saying "Value_Name"(i guess, because my Windows is in italian...), empty and not editable, and a second named "Value_data" with written "video thumbnail extractor", but even if i change this nothing happens, all video files have tuhmbnail, so XviD ones crash!

stephanV · 14th October 2004, 13:42

what also should work is: start-->run and then type "regsvr32 /u shmedia.dll"

this will unregister the thumbnail thingy. it causes problems with more than one video codec and the functionality of it is rather low i think.

if you want to enable it again type "regsvr32 shmedia.dll"

possibly you need to reboot.

hope this helps

Sharktooth · 14th October 2004, 15:04

Quote:

Originally posted by stephanV
what also should work is: start-->run and then type "regsvr32 /u shmedia.dll"

this will unregister the thumbnail thingy. it causes problems with more than one video codec and the functionality of it is rather low i think.

if you want to enable it again type "regsvr32 shmedia.dll"

possibly you need to reboot.

hope this helps

Yes, that was what i did.
That shmedia.dll is buggy, and will cause instabilities.
Unregistering will not prevent the "preview" and will not harm any OS functionality.
Just kill it...

There is nothing wrong in the xvid decoder.

Yong · 15th October 2004, 06:51

Sorry for my poor english...

@ark
Run the regedit and find this word "{c5a40261-cd64-4ccf-84cb-c394da41d590}" or "video thumbnail extractor", right-click the key and select "Export".
Backup the registry file and you can safety delete the key now.

stephanV ones also a is a good method.

This will increase windows performnce!!!

dragongodz · 15th October 2004, 07:13

ok i will say it 1 last time.

MAYBE SOMEONE WOULD LIKE TO TRY RUNNING BIGFIX TO SEE IF THAT FIXES IT FOR THEM INSTEAD OF JUST DISABLING THE THUMBNAIL.

Blue_MiSfit · 15th October 2004, 08:36

I have this problem from time to time, but I have found that it's not from the XviD decoder, but from ffdshow.

The latest build (one that was posted on doom9's front page a couple days ago) seemed to crash explorer when i tried to thumbnail...

removing it and reinstalling my previous build solved all problems

doesn't really sound liek you guys are using ffdshow, but if you are, try a different version

~misfit

Ark · 15th October 2004, 09:21

The strange thing is that on my machine it happened only with koepi builds (1.0.1 and 1.0.2) and not with gamr builds which i had for some time before getting koepi's 1.0.2...

kurt · 15th October 2004, 10:24

Quote:

Originally posted by dragongodz
ok i will say it 1 last time.

MAYBE SOMEONE WOULD LIKE TO TRY RUNNING BIGFIX TO SEE IF THAT FIXES IT FOR THEM INSTEAD OF JUST DISABLING THE THUMBNAIL.

HI, i had the same problem with ffdshow a few weeks ago...i found out that "disabling" overlay mixer solved my problem of crashing the windows explorer...i'm using now latest milan ffdshow build (Oct 12 2004) and this fix the problem too (" This build should fix Windows XP explorer crashes. ")

(edited)

dragongodz · 17th October 2004, 13:57

my point was that sometimes windows itself(especially xp in my experience) can be part of codec problems. my suggestion to try bigfix was to see if that was the case for others. since nobody wants to even try it i wont bother.

Sharktooth · 17th October 2004, 16:10

A sort of bigfix is included in the xvid installation (at least the koepi's build).
Why try bigfix?
shmedia.dll is the problem...

2nd June 2004, 19:19	#1 \| Link
adoniscik Registered User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Brookline, MA Posts: 76	Xvid 1.0 crashes Explorer Is it the encoder or the decoder? I just want to know whether installing the next version of xvid will solve the problem with my existing files, or whether I will have to re-encode them.

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adoniscik Registered User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Brookline, MA Posts: 76	Right... the details are: Codec version 1.0, with (Y,UV) deblocking postprocessing. xvid causes Windows (XP Pro) Explorer to crash "nvcpl.dll" (Detonator version 56.72), even in List mode with "Details" disabled. The encoder settings are AS@L5, AVS Best quantizer, MSP6, VHQ1, Turbo, Trellis quantization. The container is AVI, with AC3 muxed in VirtualDubMod 1.5.10.1 Last edited by adoniscik; 2nd June 2004 at 21:35.

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sysKin Registered User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Adelaide, Australia Posts: 1,166	I'm still looking for a person who can debug this problem, no luck so far. I was once told that switching desktop colour depth from 16bits to 32bits fixes this problem. Can someone confirm that, please? Radek __________________ Visit #xvid or #x264 at irc.freenode.net

15th October 2004, 06:51	#14 \| Link
Yong d00m9 Player Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: GMT +8 Posts: 577	Sorry for my poor english... @ark Run the regedit and find this word "{c5a40261-cd64-4ccf-84cb-c394da41d590}" or "video thumbnail extractor", right-click the key and select "Export". Backup the registry file and you can safety delete the key now. stephanV ones also a is a good method. This will increase windows performnce!!! Last edited by Yong; 15th October 2004 at 07:01.

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Blue_MiSfit fit 10 in 5 Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Santa Clara, CA Posts: 3,414	I have this problem from time to time, but I have found that it's not from the XviD decoder, but from ffdshow. The latest build (one that was posted on doom9's front page a couple days ago) seemed to crash explorer when i tried to thumbnail... removing it and reinstalling my previous build solved all problems doesn't really sound liek you guys are using ffdshow, but if you are, try a different version ~misfit __________________ I require bits. More bits!

2nd June 2004, 19:28	#2 \| Link
Nic Moderator Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: England Posts: 3,260	The directshow decoder being used to decode XviD is the cause of the problem. Depending on what that is. Please post more information and read the sticky post about posting bugs, for the kind of information we need. -Nic

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celtic_druid Registered User Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 2,175	Disabling the windows thumbnail shell integration thing should solve it.

14th October 2004, 07:09	#7 \| Link
dragongodz .... Join Date: May 2002 Location: Australia Posts: 2,789	i found running bigfix http://forums.divx.com/viewtopic.php...=54711&forum=1 and letting it fix any video and audio problems it found(but unticked removing ffdshow etc) fixed instabilities for me. so it would be nice if someone with the problem could try that aswell and say if it works for them aswell or not.

14th October 2004, 07:39	#8 \| Link
Yong d00m9 Player Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: GMT +8 Posts: 577	Run the registry editor, find the word video thumbnail extractor, rename the key {xxxx...} to {xxxx...}+ or what ever u like(just make it easy to rename back). Then all video file(ogm, mpg, wmv, avi...) will not display the thumbnail after this action. This solution should be add to the General AV FAQ or somewhere...

14th October 2004, 12:31	#10 \| Link
dragongodz .... Join Date: May 2002 Location: Australia Posts: 2,789	Ark - it would be nice if you could try running bigfix aswell and see if that has any effect.

14th October 2004, 13:42	#12 \| Link
stephanV gone Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 1,709	what also should work is: start-->run and then type "regsvr32 /u shmedia.dll" this will unregister the thumbnail thingy. it causes problems with more than one video codec and the functionality of it is rather low i think. if you want to enable it again type "regsvr32 shmedia.dll" possibly you need to reboot. hope this helps

15th October 2004, 07:13	#15 \| Link
dragongodz .... Join Date: May 2002 Location: Australia Posts: 2,789	ok i will say it 1 last time. MAYBE SOMEONE WOULD LIKE TO TRY RUNNING BIGFIX TO SEE IF THAT FIXES IT FOR THEM INSTEAD OF JUST DISABLING THE THUMBNAIL.

15th October 2004, 09:21	#17 \| Link
Ark Aikidoka Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Italy Posts: 216	The strange thing is that on my machine it happened only with koepi builds (1.0.1 and 1.0.2) and not with gamr builds which i had for some time before getting koepi's 1.0.2... __________________ Xvid fan ;)

17th October 2004, 13:57	#19 \| Link
dragongodz .... Join Date: May 2002 Location: Australia Posts: 2,789	my point was that sometimes windows itself(especially xp in my experience) can be part of codec problems. my suggestion to try bigfix was to see if that was the case for others. since nobody wants to even try it i wont bother.

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Sharktooth Mr. Sandman Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Haddonfield, IL Posts: 10,818	A sort of bigfix is included in the xvid installation (at least the koepi's build). Why try bigfix? shmedia.dll is the problem... __________________ MPEG-4 ASP Custom Matrices: EQM V1(old), EQM AutoGK Sharpmatrix (aka EQM V2), EQM V3HR (updated 01/10/2004), EQM V3LR, EQM V3ULR (updated 04/02/2005), EQM V3UHR (updated 17/12/2004) and EQM V3EHR (updated 05/10/2004) Info about my ASP matrices. MPEG-4 AVC Custom Matrices: EQM AVC-HR Info about my AVC matrices My x264 builds. Mooo!!!

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