Best Player Available to buy Right now?

Custom_VCD · 2nd December 2003, 09:51

I live in the US and want to buy mpeg-4 player for christmas. I want preogressive scan and svcd/vcd/dvd-r/dvd-rw/dvd+r/dvd+rw normal stuff, but I want the most powerful player I can get. B-Frames, Qpel ETC, I see all the players, but can't understand some of the posts. Is the Lite-On worth it? OR should I get soemthing more powerful? Thanks in advance for the help. Links to buy them or order them to the US would be awesome as well

Doom9 · 2nd December 2003, 10:29

well.. right now is kinda a bad time to go shopping. Players based on the MediaTek chipset are just hitting the marketplace and it might take a few more months until the more reliable and established brands release their new models. In any case, if you want GMC and QPel (DivX5 GMC works on some older models), MediaTek is currently your only choice (there seems to be a new ESS chipset as well but so far there's no word on whether it does support GMC and QPel as well.
The LiteOn is based on the old Sigma chipset and hence not capable of GMC and QPel (and no firmware upgrade will correct this, especially if QPel is concerned).

bilu · 3rd December 2003, 11:19

And what's the status about subtitle support?

From what I've heard so far they all suck...

Bilu

Doom9 · 3rd December 2003, 12:54

afaik subs are done in software, only srt is supported, and only few players it (and some have problems with umlaut characters). I'm inclined to say if you want subs, use DVD. And in the DivX area, VobSub is actually the subtitle standard, srt only matters where subs are translated or created manually. And no player handles vobsub. We'll see if they ever will.

bilu · 3rd December 2003, 17:18

AFAIK the Roadstar DVD-2501X supports SUB from start, and SRT only on the latest firmware. Vobsub would be really nice...

Don't have one, but two friends of mine do.

Custom_VCD · 4th December 2003, 10:04

Where in the US can I buy any of these players, all I can find is the Lite_On. I want one with the MediaTek MT1389 chipset real bad. Thanks to Doom9 for his fast response, i wanna get one of these ordered in time for Christmas.

sapient · 22nd January 2004, 21:23

Does anyone know (bilu?) what chip the roadstar 2501 is based on? Or if it supports multiple b-frames, gmc, qpel or xvid?

Braders[PL] · 22nd January 2004, 21:32

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Originally posted by Doom9
afaik subs are done in software, only srt is supported, and only few players it (and some have problems with umlaut characters). I'm inclined to say if you want subs, use DVD. And in the DivX area, VobSub is actually the subtitle standard, srt only matters where subs are translated or created manually. And no player handles vobsub. We'll see if they ever will.

Technosonic MP-101 support any subtitle format. MicroDVD, TMTPlayer and others in files with any extension! Simply it discovers automaticly what standard was used in subtitle file and allows you to cycle through all .txt files in directory with movie inside.

Wolfman · 23rd January 2004, 18:09

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svcd/vcd/dvd-r/dvd-rw/dvd+r/dvd+rw

Most players will not play all of these esp. beware of dvd plus and minus support. I recommend dvx6100 as it plays all those and mpeg4 divx xvid and at a reasonable price !!

Braders[PL] · 23rd January 2004, 20:26

U must be joking. All players support +/- read and all support vcd/svcd playback.

Shtirlits · 24th January 2004, 02:54

Ah, so its a bit early to buy an .avi player... Well have to wait then...

2nd December 2003, 09:51	#1 \| Link
Custom_VCD Registered User Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 34	Best Player Available to buy Right now? I live in the US and want to buy mpeg-4 player for christmas. I want preogressive scan and svcd/vcd/dvd-r/dvd-rw/dvd+r/dvd+rw normal stuff, but I want the most powerful player I can get. B-Frames, Qpel ETC, I see all the players, but can't understand some of the posts. Is the Lite-On worth it? OR should I get soemthing more powerful? Thanks in advance for the help. Links to buy them or order them to the US would be awesome as well

2nd December 2003, 10:29	#2 \| Link
Doom9 clueless n00b Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: somewhere over the rainbow Posts: 10,258	well.. right now is kinda a bad time to go shopping. Players based on the MediaTek chipset are just hitting the marketplace and it might take a few more months until the more reliable and established brands release their new models. In any case, if you want GMC and QPel (DivX5 GMC works on some older models), MediaTek is currently your only choice (there seems to be a new ESS chipset as well but so far there's no word on whether it does support GMC and QPel as well. The LiteOn is based on the old Sigma chipset and hence not capable of GMC and QPel (and no firmware upgrade will correct this, especially if QPel is concerned). __________________ For the web's most comprehensive collection of DVD backup guides go to www.doom9.org

3rd December 2003, 12:54	#4 \| Link
Doom9 clueless n00b Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: somewhere over the rainbow Posts: 10,258	afaik subs are done in software, only srt is supported, and only few players it (and some have problems with umlaut characters). I'm inclined to say if you want subs, use DVD. And in the DivX area, VobSub is actually the subtitle standard, srt only matters where subs are translated or created manually. And no player handles vobsub. We'll see if they ever will. __________________ For the web's most comprehensive collection of DVD backup guides go to www.doom9.org

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3rd December 2003, 11:19	#3 \| Link
bilu Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Portugal Posts: 1,182	And what's the status about subtitle support? From what I've heard so far they all suck... Bilu

3rd December 2003, 17:18	#5 \| Link
bilu Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Portugal Posts: 1,182	AFAIK the Roadstar DVD-2501X supports SUB from start, and SRT only on the latest firmware. Vobsub would be really nice... Don't have one, but two friends of mine do.

4th December 2003, 10:04	#6 \| Link
Custom_VCD Registered User Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 34	Where in the US can I buy any of these players, all I can find is the Lite_On. I want one with the MediaTek MT1389 chipset real bad. Thanks to Doom9 for his fast response, i wanna get one of these ordered in time for Christmas.

22nd January 2004, 21:23	#7 \| Link
sapient Unbeliever Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Greece Posts: 106	Does anyone know (bilu?) what chip the roadstar 2501 is based on? Or if it supports multiple b-frames, gmc, qpel or xvid?

23rd January 2004, 20:26	#10 \| Link
Braders[PL] Registered User Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 6	U must be joking. All players support +/- read and all support vcd/svcd playback.

24th January 2004, 02:54	#11 \| Link
Shtirlits Registered User Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 4	Ah, so its a bit early to buy an .avi player... Well have to wait then...