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Daranduil · 28th November 2003, 13:53

DivX (3.1/5.0.5) + MP3 (CBR/VBR) ---> Perfect
DivX (3.1/5.0.5) + AC3 -------------> Perfect

XviD + MP3 (CBR/VBR) ---------------> Perfect
XviD + AC3 -------------------------> Perfect

.ogm doesn't works

Audio MP3 (CBR/VBR) ----------------> Perfect
Audio ogg --------------------------> Perfect
JPG image --------------------------> Perfect

in the tech specs say:

MPEG-1, MPEG-2, MPEG-4 Simple and Advanced Simple Profile Level 5 *

I have tested some xvid parameters, all with vhq=1:

Bframes = 0 ----> Perfect
Bframes = 1 ----> Perfect
Bframes = 2 ----> not so good

qpels --> doesn't works
GMC --> doesn't works

All tested with november 2003 firmware (252N)

Doom9 · 28th November 2003, 16:12

you could try packed bitstream for xvid (not really a good idea for archival purposes) but to find out if there's a general problem with multiple b-frames on the player, or if it's just a matter of packaging.

Daranduil · 28th November 2003, 20:27

I've tried the same test clip with the "packed bitstream" and it works perfect.

Don't know what did you say that is not really good for archival purposes.

This was the options I set over a 600 frames test clip (chapter 2 from full metal jacket)

Motion Search precission=6-Very High
quant type=h.623
vhq=1 mode decision
b-frame quantizer=150
b-frame quantizer offset=100
b-frame threshold=0

with no b-frames & no packed bitstream ->5.4mb -> perfect in player
with b-frames=1 & no packed bitstream -> 3.8mb -> perfect in player
with b-frames=2 & packed bitstream -> 3.6mb -> perfect in player

2-pass with 6417 in desired kb

I have tried the same clip muxing vbr mp3 (lame -b 32 -B 192) and works perfect too.

Doom9 · 28th November 2003, 20:43

Quote:

Don't know what did you say that is not really good for archival purposes.

Isibaar once told me but I don't recall by heart. I think it has something to do with not being specs compliant.

BTW.. 1 chapter = 600 frames? I have my doubts believing that. Assuming a framerate of 24fps that's 25 seconds of video. And you should definitely use longer test clips than that.

Daranduil · 29th November 2003, 15:30

I was only compressing 600 frames to test what options works with the Hardware player Easy Home VX, it was a PAL 4:3, with 28pixels crop up and down. Now that b-frames works with packed stream (thanks for the advice Doom9) I'll try a large clip and a chapter with more action than the chapter 2.

If someone want's to test some options of xvid in this player write the post and I'll try to do it.

Daranduil · 29th November 2003, 20:40

Quote:

Originally posted by Doom9
Isibaar once told me but I don't recall by heart. I think it has something to do with not being specs compliant.

Ok, Now I know what you mean. It can't be viewed smooth in any player:

Doesn't works with bsplayer+ffdshow: it looks like going backward each 4 frames when you play a packed stream avi
mplayer for gnu/linux say "vop not coded" and pause a little avery 4 frames.

For compatibility it would be better to use bframes=1 and set of "packed stream" in XviD options.

Daranduil · 30th November 2003, 18:09

I've tried some clips with the xvid 1.0 beta.

* Default settings+Adaptive quantization+BVOPs (Max consecutive VOPs:1) looks perfect.

* Packed bitstream off+Max consecutive VOPs:2
doesn't looks perfect, a small stop each 10 seconds

28th November 2003, 13:53	#1 \| Link
Daranduil Registered User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Dark wood at Middle Earth Posts: 14	BestBuy Easy Home DVD VX! DivX (3.1/5.0.5) + MP3 (CBR/VBR) ---> Perfect DivX (3.1/5.0.5) + AC3 -------------> Perfect XviD + MP3 (CBR/VBR) ---------------> Perfect XviD + AC3 -------------------------> Perfect .ogm doesn't works Audio MP3 (CBR/VBR) ----------------> Perfect Audio ogg --------------------------> Perfect JPG image --------------------------> Perfect in the tech specs say: MPEG-1, MPEG-2, MPEG-4 Simple and Advanced Simple Profile Level 5 * I have tested some xvid parameters, all with vhq=1: Bframes = 0 ----> Perfect Bframes = 1 ----> Perfect Bframes = 2 ----> not so good qpels --> doesn't works GMC --> doesn't works All tested with november 2003 firmware (252N) Last edited by Daranduil; 30th November 2003 at 13:52.

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Doom9 clueless n00b Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: somewhere over the rainbow Posts: 10,258	you could try packed bitstream for xvid (not really a good idea for archival purposes) but to find out if there's a general problem with multiple b-frames on the player, or if it's just a matter of packaging. __________________ For the web's most comprehensive collection of DVD backup guides go to www.doom9.org

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Daranduil Registered User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Dark wood at Middle Earth Posts: 14	I've tried the same test clip with the "packed bitstream" and it works perfect. Don't know what did you say that is not really good for archival purposes. This was the options I set over a 600 frames test clip (chapter 2 from full metal jacket) Motion Search precission=6-Very High quant type=h.623 vhq=1 mode decision b-frame quantizer=150 b-frame quantizer offset=100 b-frame threshold=0 with no b-frames & no packed bitstream ->5.4mb -> perfect in player with b-frames=1 & no packed bitstream -> 3.8mb -> perfect in player with b-frames=2 & packed bitstream -> 3.6mb -> perfect in player 2-pass with 6417 in desired kb I have tried the same clip muxing vbr mp3 (lame -b 32 -B 192) and works perfect too. Last edited by Daranduil; 28th November 2003 at 20:37.

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Daranduil Registered User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Dark wood at Middle Earth Posts: 14	Xvid 1.0beta I've tried some clips with the xvid 1.0 beta. * Default settings+Adaptive quantization+BVOPs (Max consecutive VOPs:1) looks perfect. * Packed bitstream off+Max consecutive VOPs:2 doesn't looks perfect, a small stop each 10 seconds

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29th November 2003, 15:30	#5 \| Link
Daranduil Registered User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Dark wood at Middle Earth Posts: 14	I was only compressing 600 frames to test what options works with the Hardware player Easy Home VX, it was a PAL 4:3, with 28pixels crop up and down. Now that b-frames works with packed stream (thanks for the advice Doom9) I'll try a large clip and a chapter with more action than the chapter 2. If someone want's to test some options of xvid in this player write the post and I'll try to do it.