Another Player with divx pro features?

[monty0815]

I just found another player, which will be on sale here in Austria
next Monday:
This would be the specification (in german):


-spielt DVD Video/S-VCD/CD/CD-R/CD-RW/MP3/MPEG 4 (DivX und XviD) JPEG, Kodak Picture CD
eingebauter Chip erfüllt Level DivX Pro
Bildformat-Umschaltung (4:3, 16:9)
Kapitelsprung
Pause-/Einzelbildfortschaltung
OSD-Bildschirm Bedienerführung
Untertitel Anzeige
Kindersicherung
Anschlüsse: Dolby-Digital-/DTS Ausgang, Scartbuchse, Video/Audio Out
Abmessungen
43,0 x 5,3 x 24,5 cm (B x H x T)
Zubehör:
Fernbedienung inkl. Batterien, RCA (Video/Audio), Cinchkabel, Scartkabel



The 2nd line states that the chip meets the divx pro requirements.
Best thing about it is the Price: 89€ (75$ I would guess)
If anybody knows something about it please let me know.

cheers, monty

[Wolfman]

divx pro is still done on 4 levels. The minimum only requires really shitty res of 170x122 and is meant for mobile phones! so stating Divx pro is no great shakes in itself, unless it also states to what level it will attain eg home theater or High Def ??

[Doom9]

home theater is without gmc and qpel...
Best thing you can do is take a disc with divx samples, go to the store and test it. Or find the address of the manufacturer and ask them directly.

[monty0815]

I'll simply get myself one of those on Monday and then give it a thorough test. Easiest way to find out, because I tried finding the original manufacturer, but no luck so far.

monty

[SeeMoreDigital]

Me got a feeling, it will be the same as the Aldi player mentioned here: -

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=65578

Cheers

[bond]

Originally posted by SeeMoreDigital
Me got a feeling, it will be the same as the Aldi player mentioned here: http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=65578

hm, at least this player doesnt talk about "divx pro features"

monty0815,
would be great if you can test it and report if it supports gmc and qpel

[SeeMoreDigital]

monty0815 has just posted this (see below) on another thread. Perhaps it uses a MediaTek chipset: -

"MTK solution: MT1389 (True DivX Pro)

Compatible with DVD, MPEG-4 (DivX), VCD, SVCD, HDCD, CD, MP3, WMA, CD-R, CD-RW

Extra slim Design(3.9cm) --Super Slim Loader Mechanism featuring

Specifications:
MPEG-4 Video Support
Quality over Bit-Rate 5~2Mbps can achieve DVD quality
DivX Support
DivX 3.11, DivX 4 and 5 ASP
DRM (Digital Rights Management)
ISO 14496 ASP
Xvid
Video
NTSC/PAL Video Output, Capable of playing PAL/NTSC discs
Composite Video
S-Video
Component Video (Y, Pb, Pr)
Progressive-Scan Output (Y, Pb, Pr)
Automatic Screensaver
Super Error Correction with Twin Laser and Intelligent laser Wavelength Control
Menu Driven Setup Screen
Parental Control Function
Audio
Dolby Digital Down-mixed 2-Ch Stereo (L,R)
DTS and Dolby Digital (AC-3) 5.1 Channel Decode
Dolby Digital / DTS / LCPM Bitstream Output
192 kHz Sampling Frequency, 24-Bit High Quality Audio DAC
Analog (Mixed 2 Ch) Stereo (Left, Right) Audio
S/PDIF (IEC-958) Coaxial Digital Audio
S/PDIF (IEC-958) Optical Digital Audio
Power
~110V-~250V, 50Hz / 60Hz AC Universal Power Supply
Automatic Short Circuit Protection 27 MHZ 10 Bit Video D/A Converter
Packing details
Net Weight: Approximately 5.3 lbs (2.4 kg)
Net Dimensions: Approximately: W 420 mm x D 247 mm x H 41 mm
Loading: About 3000pcs/40'FCL
Licenses:
DVD licensing fees include Dolby Digital, Dts Digital out, 3C, 6C.


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Nice work!

Cheers

[monty0815]

Just tested some features of the new player and it really seems to be working.
It does GMC and Qpel with no probs, eventhough I'll have to do some further testing.
Just wanted to let you know that this is the real thing!

cheers

[bond]

holy shit and that for 89€

there must be some downsides
plz tell us your testing results

[monty0815]

Ok it doesn't play OGM (doesn't even show up) when browsing the CD or DVD.
I couldn't get subs to work either, but I guess that's the typical thing with standalone players, since they don't have any standards.

Plays 3.11 with AC3 perfectly well and even the newest Xvid builds.
Takes a little long to start a movie, but waiting 5 seconds is ok with me.
It's my first divx player and I have to say i'm impressed.

cheers

[Doom9]

Did you test multiple b-frames with qpel and gmc (obviously I'm talking about xvid) with dev-api3 and dev-api4 (packed bitstream and not packed bitstream).

[monty0815]

I'll try testing all these things but it will take a while, since I never did this with a Hardware Player and hence I don't have all the test files.
I'm doing some encoding atm, but if anybody knows of a source for test clips (or could possibly send some), I'd be happy to test them for you (how about that standardized testing procedure from the other thread? That would be handy)
I sure hope I get all the settings right, because I normally just stick with the defaults for my own encodes.
and while I'm at it:
According to some other chap who opened his, the chip used ist the Mediatek 1389. I posted the stats for the chip just a few days ago and you can also find them in this thread.

cheers

[Doom9]

well.. to test my player I've used my standard codec testing scene from The Matrix. The 2nd chapter can use as much bitrate as you give it, so you can be reasonably sure that if you want a real high bitrate clip, you're going to get one (even a 1mbit, the codecs use really high bitrates during the entire shootout and the explosion).

I hope you can squeeze in a few test chapters shortly.. I really want to know if I have to look for people in Austria who could get me such a player (my dad claims my elta player is broken... apparently I'm the only one in the family who can get that player to work).

[bond]

this player uses the MediaTek MT1389 chipset!

now as the elta 8883 claims to be able to play data partitioning and resync markers too, perhaps we should test that with the gran prix too, to find out if the two players use the same chip

[Doom9]

@bond: so far no codecs are out that support those features if I'm not mistaken.

[bond]

Originally posted by Doom9
@bond: so far no codecs are out that support those features if I'm not mistaken.

nope, have a look here

to make it short:
ffmpeg, divx 5.0.2 (the elta only supports divx503+!) support it
xvid will handle it in the future

[Doom9]

and where do you turn it on/off in divx5?

[bond]

Originally posted by Doom9
and where do you turn it on/off in divx5?

the last tab, dunno its name
note that it was only available till divx502! dxn removed it for a reason (dunno, perhaps because it was a borked implementation, lack of hardware support, who knows...)

so for testing i would only use ffmpeg (will look if ffvfw supports it)!

[monty0815]

I did some testing: with the above suggestions and it all worked out perfectly.
Enabled GMC, qpel and 2 b-frames with xvid dev api 3.
Both packed bitstream on and off.
No problems so far.
I'll try the matrix scene next.

cu, monty

[bond]

Originally posted by monty0815
I did some testing: with the above suggestions and it all worked out perfectly.
Enabled GMC, qpel and 2 b-frames with xvid dev api 3.
Both packed bitstream on and off.
No problems so far.

woaw, i still cant believe that this is there for 89€

thanks a lot monty

btw if it is ok for you i will prepare a small data partioning sample, would be great if you can try that too (if it works i am pretty sure the elta uses the same chip )