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Old 16th November 2003, 04:40   #1  |  Link
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Avimux and Liteon Divx player.

I have a standalone DVD-Divx player (Liteon). This is an excellent player and plays everything. My problem is that whenever I mux a video and audio by avimux, the player refuses the videos. Anyone has encountered this problem? If I mux with VirtualDub, it plays them fine! What should I change in Avimux?
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Old 18th November 2003, 21:15   #2  |  Link
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It looks like that not only Lite-On but all other standalone DivX players I have heard of, do not recognize files made with AviMUX GUI.

Any idea why, and what has to be changed?
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Old 19th November 2003, 00:54   #3  |  Link
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I recognised the same thing with both ess and sigma players, at least with some older versions of AVIMux.
Even if i use the same values as in Virtualdub. There must be something different in avimux.
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Old 19th November 2003, 17:32   #4  |  Link
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So what’s the best way to mux video and VBR audio? Since it seems no one is using avimux. Every DivX file that I have tested, has worked with my player and hence they are muxed with other programs.
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Old 19th November 2003, 20:55   #5  |  Link
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VirtualDub or in the case of VBR Audio, VirtualDubMod.
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Old 23rd November 2003, 11:10   #6  |  Link
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Gkif4u

I am using this program to test out clips and it appears that my player doesnt like them (yamada dvx6100 ess based). These clips are however muxed with virtdubmod. I have other clips both divx and xvid which play fine they however were created using GK or some other method, as GKIF4U has only been available for a few weeks. somebody suggested interleaving or b-frames as part of the problem, any ideas?
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Old 3rd December 2003, 17:57   #7  |  Link
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solution

If I do not use "Open-DML output" in avimux, it works to me, try it.
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Old 3rd December 2003, 18:37   #8  |  Link
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Re: solution

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If I do not use "Open-DML output" in avimux, it works to me, try it.
hmm...
looks like you are the only who was able to play avi flies (prepared in AVImux) on standalone player.
What player do you have btw?

PS: my RJ4000 does not play AVImux-ed files (with or without "Open-DML" box checked)
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Old 4th December 2003, 00:19   #9  |  Link
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I have verified it on "Loomax DVD DivX-X50" player.
This avi files (Divx-AC3) was muxed with avimux_gui v1.15.3 and v1.13.
The "Open-DML" avi files created by VirtualDubMod do not have problems in this standalone DVD-Divx player.

The program "Avimedic" indicate that avi created with avimux_gui and the "Open-DML output" option selected, has all bad header.
Bug in Open-DML files created by avimux?
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Old 4th December 2003, 12:49   #10  |  Link
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avimux also places the index (normally placed at the end of the file) at the beginning (thats allowed in the avi specs)
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avimux also places the index (normally placed at the end of the file) at the beginning (thats allowed in the avi specs)
??????????????????????????

Proteus:
Unless your file was larger than 2 GB, VirtualDub did NOT create an Open-DML file. Also switch off rec lists. They make KISS players b0rk, and maybe also LiteOn.

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My files never are greater of 2 GB and GSpot indicates that avi files created by VirtualDubMod are Open-DML, Why?

I dont have problems switch on REC lists.
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about liteon playback

Just got this player. Immediately run into this problem:
I have 16:9 LCD screen to which player is connected. Video is perfect via component out. But I can't seem to make the player output divx/xvid in widescreen mode. It always outputs 4:3 mode. So basically in order to play if full widescreen you have to have anamorphic encode and then stretch to 16:9 on the LCD itself. Is that fixable or not ?

P.S. player has no probs playing AutoGK's XviD files.
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if you have the same liteon player i do, then there is a configuration screen that allows you to select the AR of your output (4:3 or 16:9)

you can only get to the configuration screen if you don't have any media in the drive of the player.

oh, and if you "just" got the player, make sure you update the firmware http://www.liteonit.com/DC/english/csd.htm
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Proteus: did you try Open-DML + Legacy in AVI-Mux GUI? This is exactly what VDub writes.

What exactly does avimedic complain about? I just ran it, and it does not tell me what it thinks to be wrong. It just shows a nice red square, which is not too helpful

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AVIMedic refuses to load any files > 2 GB (written with AVI-Mux GUI and VDubMod), which IMHO means that it might report bad headers only because it cannot handle Open-DML (it is impossible to write Open-DML files < 2 GB with VirtualDub!)
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if you have the same liteon player i do, then there is a configuration screen that allows you to select the AR of your output (4:3 or 16:9)

you can only get to the configuration screen if you don't have any media in the drive of the player.
It's LVD 2001 with 229 firmware.
16:9 or 4:3 settings seem to have no effect on mpeg4 playback. It looks like it always plays 4:3 Letterboxed So when I watch it on 16:9 screen the width is streched...
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Re: about liteon playback

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Just got this player. Immediately run into this problem:
I have 16:9 LCD screen to which player is connected. Video is perfect via component out. But I can't seem to make the player output divx/xvid in widescreen mode. It always outputs 4:3 mode. So basically in order to play if full widescreen you have to have anamorphic encode and then stretch to 16:9 on the LCD itself. Is that fixable or not ?

P.S. player has no probs playing AutoGK's XviD files.
Aha!

I was wondering how some standalone player users were coping with their Mpeg4 encodes on 16:9 screens!

I generate most of my encodes anamorphic-ally (how do you spell that word?) for viewing on my 16:9 screen via Xcard. And I too, have problems being able to view them correctly. Selecting 16:9 output for Mpeg4 encodes just makes matters worse!

I presume DVD/Mpeg2 anamorphic streams work OK when 16:9 TV output is selected?

What are the image pixel frame sizes of the Mpeg4 encodes you have tried with your player?

After over six months of barracking Sigma I'm still no closer to finding a permanent solution. The only thing Xcard users have in their favour is that it's possible to correct/override the aspect ratio by pressing the up/down arrows on the remote control, while playing the encode. Either that, or I use JovePlayer and create xml file that automatically adjusts the AR.

It think it might be interesting to know, how many members who have DVD/Mpeg4 standalones, also have 16:9 TV's!

I wonder if Doom9 has such a setup. And if so how he's got around the problem? Which, incidentally, is not as bad with NTSC anamorphic encodes!

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Old 5th December 2003, 14:54   #19  |  Link
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I have the liteOn player and a 16:9 TV. Nothing is easier than watching my DivX/XviD files. It doesn't matter in what aspect ratio they are. My player has both the option of stretching the image vertically or horizontally. So I can adjust it very easily. This works only with mpeg-4 files. With normal DVD I cannot stretch the image manually.
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Re: Re: about liteon playback

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I was wondering how some standalone player users were coping with their Mpeg4 encodes on 16:9 screens!
Thank god I haven't bought this player for myself But for a person without 16:9 screen... Otherwise I'd be really upset.

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I presume DVD/Mpeg2 anamorphic streams work OK when 16:9 TV output is selected?
Yes, DVD playback is perfect.

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What are the image pixel frame sizes of the Mpeg4 encodes you have tried with your player?
I don't have anything above 720*xxx at the moment. I'll be doing lots of samples for testing and later publish my results. Strange thing so far - player seems to be playing Divx 5.0.2 GMC encodes without any problems (I though it woudln't). I have stopped using GMC after 5.0.2 because of wasn't sure if in the future I can play them. Now I have to try this with 5.1.1, which playback btw was not perfect on one sample I tried (I'm not sure if its generic problem or bitrate picks issue). XviD playback is superb though.

P.S. divx 3.11 playback is soo horrible though (as expected)
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