New Divx-Enabled DVD player out in the USA

Zerosix · 14th October 2003, 09:02

take a good look here...

http://www.avindustries.net

Doom9 · 14th October 2003, 10:30

I couldn't find what chipset the player is based on...

Zerosix · 14th October 2003, 15:53

it is ESS.

Doom9 · 14th October 2003, 17:05

where did you find the technical specs?

athos · 14th October 2003, 20:31

Quote:

Originally posted by Doom9
where did you find the technical specs?

Quote:

Features:
Complete compatibility ranging from DVD-R/DVD+R/MP3/ Divx™/ MPEG4/VCD/SVCD/ CVD/DVD/ JPEG/WMA/WMV and is both NTSC and PAL compliant.

Supports Divx™ version 3.11, 4.02 through 5.02

-Based on the ESS Vibratto Chipset
-Component Video
-S-VIDEO
-Composite Video
-Optical Out
-DTS Output
-2 or 5.1 Channel Surround Sound
-10bit Digital Video Processing
-24-Bit / 96kHz Digital Audio Processing
-Supports 1:1, 4:3, and 16:9 video
-Supports maximum Divx™ resolution of 720x576
-Supports Parental controls
-Has On Screen Display
-Karaoke Functions
-Kodak Picture CD playback
-Fully Functional Remote Control
-1 year manf. warranty
-Free software and firmware updates available from www.avindustries.net

Just click "Consumer Electronics"

Doom9 · 14th October 2003, 23:08

argh..

Zerosix · 15th October 2003, 05:07

They are slick though... very well designed, and seem a lot faster and more compatible than the Sigma...

Although i believe that the X-100 is available in either Sigma OR ESS.

WorldBook · 15th October 2003, 05:16

http://forum.digital-digest.com/show...hlight=zerosix

This is what "zerosix" had to say in another forum.

Zerosix · 15th October 2003, 05:30

Yup, i'm the same guy...

A lot of things have evolved in the past 5 months...

Just take a look at the website, and see for yourself.

BoNz1 · 15th October 2003, 07:01

Does it support things like quarterpixel, b-frames which aren't packed as in XviD, and more than 1 warping point GMC?

SeeMoreDigital · 16th October 2003, 11:21

Me thinks this post should really be in 'Hardware DVD Players' section of the forum!

But I can't blame it being missed as there does not appear to be any moderators for this section at all. Which is a pity, coz I rather like this area of the forum!

I noticed this bit in the spec posted by athos

Quote:

Supports maximum Divx™ resolution of 720x576

I did some tests recently and found that as long as you dont exceed 414,720 pixels, you can infact use any frame size!

Might be useful to some of you!

Cheers

AV Industries · 20th October 2003, 06:00

That is definitely good information to know.

SeeMoreDigital · 20th October 2003, 19:51

Quote:

Originally posted by AV Industries
That is definitely good information to know.

Yes, I've been generating some PAL 2.35:1 DVD rips using an image pixel frame size of 768x432 (331,776 total pixels). And very good looking they are too!

I might give some NTSC 2.35:1 DVD rips a go, using an image pixel frame size of 656x368 (241,408 total pixels).

As you can see, both pixel frame sizes offer encodes with a 'true frame' aspect ratio of 16:9!

Cheers

Zhnujm · 20th October 2003, 21:15

At least my Yamada (also ESS based) cant play anything above 720xXXX.

SeeMoreDigital · 20th October 2003, 21:32

Quote:

Originally posted by Zhnujm
At least my Yamada (also ESS based) cant play anything above 720xXXX.

I've just dug out an old 864x480p NTSC DivX encode I did of StarWars 2. And I'm happy to say it's works perfectly with my Xcard.

Cheers

Doom9 · 26th October 2003, 02:02

@Zerosix, AV Industries: Any ties to the actual company? If so, maybe you could tell us something about your future plans in terms of audio, container and subtitle support and if there are any devices based on more powerful chipsets (supporting QPel for instance) in the works.

AV Industries · 26th October 2003, 04:41

We have strong ties to AVX... We are their exclusive distributor in the Americas and Asia, and soon to be Europe, and Australia.

Future plans are pretty simple. We will support any and all emerging container formats that become "standard". By this, we mean we will only fully "support" codecs and containers authorized by DivX themselves... At this point in time, it is limited to .avi. We have a very strong desire to keep our entire product line Certified by DivX, and not go any other direction.

This doesn't mean that other formats aren't compatible. For example, XVid with AC3 sound is fully supported, and so is QPEL and GMC (kind of). the QPEL and GMC is rather rudimentary at this time, and it is not a requirement for DivX certification. However, as new firmware is available, this will improve. It is one of the areas we are working on.

There are chipsets that will be emerging that are more powerful than the ESS chipset we are currently using, however, we are choosing to NOT adopt them until they meet DivX's strict certification levels. It is just out of best interest from a marketing standpoint. ("Why is one certified and one not?") We want to keep it simple and eliminate any confusion for our customers. Once new sets are available and certified by DivX, we will implement them as soon as possible.

As of right now, we have three goals that we would like to have accomplished BEFORE our highest end products are released.

1) Full support for QPEL and GMC
2) Full support for OGM containers
3) Maintain our DivX certification by doing so.

It is important to us to receive feedback from potential customers and from existing ones so that we can enhance our product line and deliver the most requested features.

Any other questions, feel free to ask.

manono · 27th October 2003, 02:53

Hi-

Any other questions, feel free to ask.

OK

1. Do your units support external subtitles? If so, which ones? If not, when can this very important feature be expected?
2. Why don't any of your models have either DVI out or HDMI out? Do you plan on making a unit with one or the other in the future?

AV Industries · 27th October 2003, 03:03

External subtitles are not supported ***yet***. Some have reported that they do work, however, just not very well. We are glad to test any sample .avi files for you and let you know our results. New firmware should be available in the next couple of months. This is something that will definitely be supported 100% eventually.

Our initial unit, the X-100 doesn't include DVI because we are aiming to keep it as close as we can get to a budget machine. We have heard requests for DVI though, and our next two units, the X500 and the X600 will BOTH include it. HDMI is a strong possibility for the next generation as well. We have inquired about including it and how much sense it would make. It all depends on how widespread it is when the next generation machines are ready for production.

The X-100 will probably not include either... not yet.

Hope this helps.

manono · 27th October 2003, 12:10

Hi-

Hope this helps.

It helps a lot. Thanks for the replies. I'll be keeping an eye on you guys. Best of luck with the new units. It's good to have someone in the "biz" monitoring this board to get an idea of the kinds of features we're looking for in a DVD/MPEG4 player, and to answer questions.

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Zerosix Registered User Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 4	it is ESS.

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Zerosix Registered User Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 4	They are slick though... very well designed, and seem a lot faster and more compatible than the Sigma... Although i believe that the X-100 is available in either Sigma OR ESS.

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Zerosix Registered User Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 4	Yup, i'm the same guy... A lot of things have evolved in the past 5 months... Just take a look at the website, and see for yourself. Last edited by Zerosix; 15th October 2003 at 05:39.

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BoNz1 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Great White North Posts: 521	Does it support things like quarterpixel, b-frames which aren't packed as in XviD, and more than 1 warping point GMC?

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AV Industries Registered User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Illinois Posts: 5	That is definitely good information to know.

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Zhnujm Registered User Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 983	At least my Yamada (also ESS based) cant play anything above 720xXXX.

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Doom9 clueless n00b Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: somewhere over the rainbow Posts: 10,258	@Zerosix, AV Industries: Any ties to the actual company? If so, maybe you could tell us something about your future plans in terms of audio, container and subtitle support and if there are any devices based on more powerful chipsets (supporting QPel for instance) in the works. __________________ For the web's most comprehensive collection of DVD backup guides go to www.doom9.org

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AV Industries Registered User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Illinois Posts: 5	We have strong ties to AVX... We are their exclusive distributor in the Americas and Asia, and soon to be Europe, and Australia. Future plans are pretty simple. We will support any and all emerging container formats that become "standard". By this, we mean we will only fully "support" codecs and containers authorized by DivX themselves... At this point in time, it is limited to .avi. We have a very strong desire to keep our entire product line Certified by DivX, and not go any other direction. This doesn't mean that other formats aren't compatible. For example, XVid with AC3 sound is fully supported, and so is QPEL and GMC (kind of). the QPEL and GMC is rather rudimentary at this time, and it is not a requirement for DivX certification. However, as new firmware is available, this will improve. It is one of the areas we are working on. There are chipsets that will be emerging that are more powerful than the ESS chipset we are currently using, however, we are choosing to NOT adopt them until they meet DivX's strict certification levels. It is just out of best interest from a marketing standpoint. ("Why is one certified and one not?") We want to keep it simple and eliminate any confusion for our customers. Once new sets are available and certified by DivX, we will implement them as soon as possible. As of right now, we have three goals that we would like to have accomplished BEFORE our highest end products are released. 1) Full support for QPEL and GMC 2) Full support for OGM containers 3) Maintain our DivX certification by doing so. It is important to us to receive feedback from potential customers and from existing ones so that we can enhance our product line and deliver the most requested features. Any other questions, feel free to ask. __________________ http://www.avindustries.net/images/avilogo.gif AV Industries - Divx®-Enabled DVD Players

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manono Moderator Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Hawaii Posts: 5,706	Hi- Any other questions, feel free to ask. OK 1. Do your units support external subtitles? If so, which ones? If not, when can this very important feature be expected? 2. Why don't any of your models have either DVI out or HDMI out? Do you plan on making a unit with one or the other in the future?

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AV Industries Registered User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Illinois Posts: 5	External subtitles are not supported *yet*. Some have reported that they do work, however, just not very well. We are glad to test any sample .avi files for you and let you know our results. New firmware should be available in the next couple of months. This is something that will definitely be supported 100% eventually. Our initial unit, the X-100 doesn't include DVI because we are aiming to keep it as close as we can get to a budget machine. We have heard requests for DVI though, and our next two units, the X500 and the X600 will BOTH include it. HDMI is a strong possibility for the next generation as well. We have inquired about including it and how much sense it would make. It all depends on how widespread it is when the next generation machines are ready for production. The X-100 will probably not include either... not yet. Hope this helps. __________________ http://www.avindustries.net/images/avilogo.gif AV Industries - Divx®-Enabled DVD Players

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manono Moderator Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Hawaii Posts: 5,706	Hi- Hope this helps. It helps a lot. Thanks for the replies. I'll be keeping an eye on you guys. Best of luck with the new units. It's good to have someone in the "biz" monitoring this board to get an idea of the kinds of features we're looking for in a DVD/MPEG4 player, and to answer questions.

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