The best DVD player for DivX ?

KickF · 26th July 2003, 21:57

Well I'm gona buy my first dvdplayer ( standalone ) ever, and the reason is they can handel DivX now ... I should have buyed one ages ago ,but now it has droped to a price that is OK ... So ... wich to choose ? I have been thinking for a Kiss DP-450 ore a DP-500 with it's LAN support , but there are some new player out like the LiteOn, but the problem here is that I don't realy know anything about the other players ... I have read abit in this forum, but I can sit here the whole day , so I'll just ask you all ... what I realy need is a dvdplayer that can handel subtitels .. the support for more then 1 audiostream is not that important for me ... I need the subtitels more since I have some japanise cartoonmovies and some france movies like Taxi

just love that movie ... so can you pepz that have dvdplayers with divx support tell me what to buy ? as I stand now I would go for the Kiss DP 450 ore 500 , but I don't know if handels subtitels

Soulhunter · 1st August 2003, 01:54

Kiss DP-450 = Acceptable standalone... "Acceptable" means "BAD" for me

!
XBox + Modchip = Good standalone... And you can also play games with it

!
Desktop PC with TV-Out = Perfect stanalone... Not cheap, but...

!

zag2me · 4th August 2003, 12:46

Subtitle support on the kiss dp-450 and dp-500 will be improved in the new firmware due for release very soon

SeeMoreDigital · 9th August 2003, 16:38

There are a few more DivX / DVD players available now. Checkout the following: -

Torward MP101 (£150.00)at www.cp@ShockExite.com

Jamo DVR50/A305PDD Reciever (£600.00) at www.jamo.co.uk

Neuston DVX-1201 (£170.00) at www.nineteen72.co.uk

Cheers

manono · 9th August 2003, 21:07

Hi-

600 pounds for that Jamo model? What does all that extra money get you? The nice box and a cool looking remote control? It doesn't even seem to be DivX Certified. I wonder if they'll sell very many.

SeeMoreDigital · 10th August 2003, 00:10

Hi manono

Quote:

600 pounds for that Jamo model? What does all that extra money get you? The nice box and a cool looking remote control? It doesn't even seem to be DivX Certified. I wonder if they'll sell very many.

Yea, the price does seem to be a little 'up in the clouds'. I read a brief report that said it comes with a built in 6Ch amp (that's the A305PDD part) and speakers!

Edit... Have a gander at this: -
http://www.sigmadesigns.com/news/pre...ses/030107.htm

Sounds like an Xcard running Jove player software + reciever!

manono · 10th August 2003, 00:37

Hi SMD-

OK, you get an amp, not that it would be too useful for too many people. Most people with a surround sound system would already have their own amp. I did notice that it decodes the AC3, but missed the receiver being included. Oh yeah, now I see it:

the first DVD receiver in the world with DivX and PAL/NTSC progressive scan

I still don't see any mention of speakers being included, though. Just something about it being designed for use with their speakers:

Jamo DVR 50 has been specially designed to match our Aesthetic products - in design, sound and operation. This means that a combination of the DVR 50 and the Aesthetic range produces a complete and harmonious solution that is easy to use.

It may be the first DVD Receiver with DivX and PAL/NTSC Progressive Scan, but it's not the first DVD/MPEG4 Player with PAL/NTSC Progressive Scan capability:

https://www2.setssl.com/~hivizone/dv...main_frame.htm

Maybe the next time I feel money burning a hole in my pocket I'll check it out.

SeeMoreDigital · 10th August 2003, 10:49

That's better!

The specs on the Momitsu DVD-V880 look good. I like the idea of having a DVI output.

I've been thinking of making a little device that utilizes / produces this off my Xcard using the cards onboard 'digital' connection strip.

It's a shame that there is no PAL (576p) progressive output. However according to info on Sigma's forum PAL progressive output is possible from non-macrovision DVD's/files.

On a different note. I've tried generating some Hi-def DivX test encodes at 1440x816 (1920x1080 forget it!) but the DivX chip can't handle them. It can scale out to such sizes but can't input!

Shame.

zag2me · 11th August 2003, 13:53

In reference to the Jamo mp4 player.

Kiss helped out in the developent of this player but.. Kiss are going to release the dp-470 which includes a 5.1 amplifier, exactly the same as the jamo. You can bet it will be a bit cheaper too

SeeMoreDigital · 11th August 2003, 14:21

zag2me,

I have'nt managed to get my hands on a Kiss player.

Can I ask if you, or any other people on the gooddvdstuff forum have tried spinning Mpeg4/DivX files that have been encoded with a frame size above 720x576?

Say. 1920x1080, 1440x816, 1280x720 or even 1024x576!

Cheers

anders@dac.se · 14th August 2003, 10:27

I would say a Mini-itx computer with onboard mpeg2 decoder, good price and you can even buy a cabinet thta looks like a DVD standalone. Those cabinets cost around $100 but they are just great looking...

mek · 16th August 2003, 14:01

Nordichardware's Anton Nilsson wrote a great review about the neuston maestro dvx-1201 player.

brute · 26th August 2003, 12:49

I think there will be an alternative, the

Xoro HSD 400

It's gonna be good in my opinion and it has an another chipset, not the SigmaDesign, but an ESS Decoderchipset.

The player only costs 119€ what will be the same in dollars.

But if I see the included DD-Decoder, I ask me if the qualitily is that good for this price...

Zhnujm · 26th August 2003, 19:45

The ESS Chipset is more powerful than the Sigma Chip, even 3.11 works well with it, but the actual Players need some firmware improvements. (no zooming in avi until now)

brute · 26th August 2003, 20:11

do you know another player with the chipset?

Zhnujm · 26th August 2003, 21:12

The Yamada DVX 6100/6000 has the same Chipset, the Philips 737 also have the same Chipset but is not yet available.

ChAoS Overlord · 31st August 2003, 10:44

I have the liteon Phomaster LVD-2001 with the latest firmware. All my divx3.11 content plays, but there is heavy stuttering in high motion scenes.

Can anybody else confirm this with there Sigma-based chipset?

Zhnujm · 31st August 2003, 11:27

AFAIK all Sigma based Players have this Problem.

ChAoS Overlord · 31st August 2003, 11:29

Are you saying that if I'd get an ESS based player, I'd be problem free? Are there any in depth reviews available yet?

Zhnujm · 31st August 2003, 11:38

I can only speak for my Yamada DVX6100 but a 720x576 4000kBit Low Motion file played perfect on it, just like DivX 5.

But dont buy it yet, as said above theres almost no zooming for DivX files until now, that means everything below 704xXXX will have black borders all around.
Only a few 4:3 resolution are zoomed to fullscreen (352x288,360x270,dont know)
Also DivX5 bframes+gmc is supportet, but not for Xvid.

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KickF Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Norway Posts: 28	The best DVD player for DivX ? Well I'm gona buy my first dvdplayer ( standalone ) ever, and the reason is they can handel DivX now ... I should have buyed one ages ago ,but now it has droped to a price that is OK ... So ... wich to choose ? I have been thinking for a Kiss DP-450 ore a DP-500 with it's LAN support , but there are some new player out like the LiteOn, but the problem here is that I don't realy know anything about the other players ... I have read abit in this forum, but I can sit here the whole day , so I'll just ask you all ... what I realy need is a dvdplayer that can handel subtitels .. the support for more then 1 audiostream is not that important for me ... I need the subtitels more since I have some japanise cartoonmovies and some france movies like Taxi just love that movie ... so can you pepz that have dvdplayers with divx support tell me what to buy ? as I stand now I would go for the Kiss DP 450 ore 500 , but I don't know if handels subtitels __________________ - KickF -

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zag2me Registered User Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 67	Subtitle support on the kiss dp-450 and dp-500 will be improved in the new firmware due for release very soon Last edited by zag2me; 11th August 2003 at 09:26.

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SeeMoreDigital Life looks better in HDTV Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: UK Posts: 10,009	There are a few more DivX / DVD players available now. Checkout the following: - Torward MP101 (£150.00)at www.cp@ShockExite.com Jamo DVR50/A305PDD Reciever (£600.00) at www.jamo.co.uk Neuston DVX-1201 (£170.00) at www.nineteen72.co.uk Cheers __________________ Still confused about anamorphic images? Then look here! \| Main Encoding Interests: Hardware device playback \| My Gear \|

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SeeMoreDigital Life looks better in HDTV Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: UK Posts: 10,009	That's better! The specs on the Momitsu DVD-V880 look good. I like the idea of having a DVI output. I've been thinking of making a little device that utilizes / produces this off my Xcard using the cards onboard 'digital' connection strip. It's a shame that there is no PAL (576p) progressive output. However according to info on Sigma's forum PAL progressive output is possible from non-macrovision DVD's/files. On a different note. I've tried generating some Hi-def DivX test encodes at 1440x816 (1920x1080 forget it!) but the DivX chip can't handle them. It can scale out to such sizes but can't input! Shame. __________________ Still confused about anamorphic images? Then look here! \| Main Encoding Interests: Hardware device playback \| My Gear \|

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zag2me Registered User Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 67	In reference to the Jamo mp4 player. Kiss helped out in the developent of this player but.. Kiss are going to release the dp-470 which includes a 5.1 amplifier, exactly the same as the jamo. You can bet it will be a bit cheaper too Last edited by zag2me; 11th August 2003 at 14:00.

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Soulhunter Leaker! Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Unknown Posts: 2,773	Kiss DP-450 = Acceptable standalone... "Acceptable" means "BAD" for me ! XBox + Modchip = Good standalone... And you can also play games with it ! Desktop PC with TV-Out = Perfect stanalone... Not cheap, but... !

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manono Moderator Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Hawaii Posts: 5,707	Hi- 600 pounds for that Jamo model? What does all that extra money get you? The nice box and a cool looking remote control? It doesn't even seem to be DivX Certified. I wonder if they'll sell very many.

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manono Moderator Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Hawaii Posts: 5,707	Hi SMD- OK, you get an amp, not that it would be too useful for too many people. Most people with a surround sound system would already have their own amp. I did notice that it decodes the AC3, but missed the receiver being included. Oh yeah, now I see it: the first DVD receiver in the world with DivX and PAL/NTSC progressive scan I still don't see any mention of speakers being included, though. Just something about it being designed for use with their speakers: Jamo DVR 50 has been specially designed to match our Aesthetic products - in design, sound and operation. This means that a combination of the DVR 50 and the Aesthetic range produces a complete and harmonious solution that is easy to use. It may be the first DVD Receiver with DivX and PAL/NTSC Progressive Scan, but it's not the first DVD/MPEG4 Player with PAL/NTSC Progressive Scan capability: https://www2.setssl.com/~hivizone/dv...main_frame.htm Maybe the next time I feel money burning a hole in my pocket I'll check it out.

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SeeMoreDigital Life looks better in HDTV Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: UK Posts: 10,009	zag2me, I have'nt managed to get my hands on a Kiss player. Can I ask if you, or any other people on the gooddvdstuff forum have tried spinning Mpeg4/DivX files that have been encoded with a frame size above 720x576? Say. 1920x1080, 1440x816, 1280x720 or even 1024x576! Cheers __________________ Still confused about anamorphic images? Then look here! \| Main Encoding Interests: Hardware device playback \| My Gear \|

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anders@dac.se Registered User Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 180	I would say a Mini-itx computer with onboard mpeg2 decoder, good price and you can even buy a cabinet thta looks like a DVD standalone. Those cabinets cost around $100 but they are just great looking...

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mek Registered User Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 1	Nordichardware's Anton Nilsson wrote a great review about the neuston maestro dvx-1201 player.

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brute Registered User Join Date: May 2003 Location: germany Posts: 51	I think there will be an alternative, the Xoro HSD 400 It's gonna be good in my opinion and it has an another chipset, not the SigmaDesign, but an ESS Decoderchipset. The player only costs 119€ what will be the same in dollars. But if I see the included DD-Decoder, I ask me if the qualitily is that good for this price... __________________ I WANT TO BELIEVE

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Zhnujm Registered User Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 983	The ESS Chipset is more powerful than the Sigma Chip, even 3.11 works well with it, but the actual Players need some firmware improvements. (no zooming in avi until now)

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brute Registered User Join Date: May 2003 Location: germany Posts: 51	do you know another player with the chipset? __________________ I WANT TO BELIEVE

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Zhnujm Registered User Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 983	The Yamada DVX 6100/6000 has the same Chipset, the Philips 737 also have the same Chipset but is not yet available.

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ChAoS Overlord Registered User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Belgium Posts: 185	I have the liteon Phomaster LVD-2001 with the latest firmware. All my divx3.11 content plays, but there is heavy stuttering in high motion scenes. Can anybody else confirm this with there Sigma-based chipset?

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Zhnujm Registered User Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 983	AFAIK all Sigma based Players have this Problem.

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ChAoS Overlord Registered User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Belgium Posts: 185	Are you saying that if I'd get an ESS based player, I'd be problem free? Are there any in depth reviews available yet?

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Zhnujm Registered User Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 983	I can only speak for my Yamada DVX6100 but a 720x576 4000kBit Low Motion file played perfect on it, just like DivX 5. But dont buy it yet, as said above theres almost no zooming for DivX files until now, that means everything below 704xXXX will have black borders all around. Only a few 4:3 resolution are zoomed to fullscreen (352x288,360x270,dont know) Also DivX5 bframes+gmc is supportet, but not for Xvid.

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