DVD Player only plays half picture (DVD-SVCD)

Potatoking · 5th May 2003, 14:53

I have tried to put 4 episodes of SVCD one DVD+R but with no luck.

I have followed a guide showing demuxing audio/video with TmpEnc and the use ifoedit, and last vobedit. I burned them on a DVD+R. but then starts the problem.

My Pioneer 350 only shows half the picture.
What can I do to sort this out?

I know the Pioneer can play Dvd+r and SVCD....

mordant · 6th May 2003, 05:27

Pioneer players don't like non-standard resolutions. They can play mpeg 2 (DVD/SVCD) as 352x480 or 480x480 but can not play mpeg 1 at 352x480 (you get half-screen effect). The same goes for DVD at 480x480, it will play but the non-standard resolution will cause it to play half screen.

Potatoking · 6th May 2003, 07:29

So...can I sort this out or...should I just throw this idea out the window as long as I have the Pioneer??

ChrissyBoy · 6th May 2003, 11:11

The old SVCD->DVDR method produces good results on 90%+ of cases. It is however a non DVD spec compliant DVD you have as a result. So as mordant says Pioneer fall into the other 10%. The only options you have is do a proper re-encode to 353 or 720 horzontal resolution or get a cheap player (APEX or similar) for such DVDs.

CB

Potatoking · 6th May 2003, 11:15

Right now I'm looking at the guide for Ulead DVD Movie Factory 2, to see if this little proggie can help me out.

Many thanx for the response.

Potatoking · 7th May 2003, 07:24

Yesterday I tried to enter my project into Ulead DMF2 but this should take over 40 hours of encoding the video....so I just forget it.

As You all can see I have the problem that I have the Pioneer that will only play half the picture if I burn a DVD-SVCD. Now I have seen that SVCD2DVDmpg+ is released. Will this proggie help me out or do I have to encode them all (I have LOTR,4cd,SVCD) with TMPenc in "real" DVD-resolution and then author it with, for example Ulead DMF2?

I have almost read everything I can get my hands on but I have to say I'm about to throw everything out the window.

So...pls help me out

ChrissyBoy · 7th May 2003, 07:29

SVCD2DVDmpg+ will give you a authored dvd folder (video_ts) in one click. The resulant burnt dvd is still a DVD-SVCD. So you will have the same issue.

Quote:

The only options you have is do a proper re-encode to 352 or 720 horzontal resolution or get a cheap player (APEX or similar) for such DVDs.

Actually any player other than a Pioneers. I only said cheap as £60 is lower then most DVD authoring applications....

Potatoking · 7th May 2003, 07:35

I will then try the SVCD2DVDMPG+ and see if I can get it to run on some buddies players. I can buy a new one for about £60 here in Sweden.

Many thanx for the help.

rjgn · 7th May 2003, 10:37

There is a solution to this problem but it's a time intensive one.

You can add pan and scan info using a program called mpegrepair.

What you do is add the pan and scan tags at 480 x 480 and then select pan and scan on your dvd player when playing them back. Pioneer players will then display the picture properly.

However on my lowley Duron 800 mpegrepair only does this in approximately real time. So not a great option if you've got loads of svcd's you want to put on dvdr. But if it's only the occasional one then it's not a problem.

Potatoking · 7th May 2003, 10:59

....and my reply is....can I use mpegrepair on already created vob´s?
I have a DVD+R I cannot play but maybe this solution does it....

Damn...I had almost lost my hope but now it starts all over again

Potatoking · 7th May 2003, 11:33

Where can I find this program?

Someone have to help me....please......please.....

xiaomeng_zhao · 7th May 2003, 16:38

Why not change a better video player?
Apparently "Windvd Platinum 4.5.11.7" is the first choice for the majority of professional "fever fans', which you can download from the free down load area of removed due to the dodgyness of the site
Althoughas above is not the real url, but get rid of all numbers from it, you will be able to find the correct one^_^

Potatoking · 9th May 2003, 07:04

I gave up.....I ran all my SVCD's through TmpEnc and got the DVD-resolution. Now I can see them in my *damn* Pioneer.

ChrissyBoy · 14th May 2003, 10:02

@Potatoking:

I know you solved your problem but i wonder if you could test a sample from my application to see if it addresses your pioneer issue.

See: http://www.svcd2dvdmpg.com/SVCD2DVDMPG/Samples.aspx

from that page....

Quote:

This sample has had sequence display extension headers added to the mpeg stream. This is interpreted as Pan & Scan information by Pioneer DVD players and so gives perfect playback. For this to work you must set your player to 4:3 Pan & Scan before you play the DVD. Consult your manual if you are unsure how to do this.

I'm try to see if the fix is consistent enough to release in my application (or am i wasting my time).

Thanks in advance

rjgn · 14th May 2003, 17:24

I'll certainly give it a try tonight.

It's certainly a feature I would like to see implemented

ChrissyBoy · 15th May 2003, 18:19

How yer get on bonnie lad?

rjgn · 19th May 2003, 12:47

Ack! apologies, got called away to work. As I live away when at work I've not been able to try it, but runnng the test now will post results soon.

Potatoking · 20th May 2003, 11:34

@rjgn

Any news yet. I have also been away for a short vacation. (Edinburgh actually)..Ehmmm....love your country man....

I have not been able to try this. Sitting at work for the moment and have not my burner with me

rjgn · 21st May 2003, 00:09

Sample worked perfectly in my Pioneer 340.

Video only on the left of the screen initially but when I switched to Pan & Scan it displayed fine. Just like I usually do when using mpegrepair.

ChrissyBoy · 21st May 2003, 09:45

Excellent!!

Results so far:

Works on:
DV-414
DV-525
DV-333
c603c
340

not on
626D

@rjgn: wanna beta test the app on a few complete svcds? (PM me)

5th May 2003, 14:53	#1 \| Link
Potatoking Registered User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Sweden Posts: 39	DVD Player only plays half picture (DVD-SVCD) I have tried to put 4 episodes of SVCD one DVD+R but with no luck. I have followed a guide showing demuxing audio/video with TmpEnc and the use ifoedit, and last vobedit. I burned them on a DVD+R. but then starts the problem. My Pioneer 350 only shows half the picture. What can I do to sort this out? I know the Pioneer can play Dvd+r and SVCD.... __________________ If God sees You, shut the lights out.

6th May 2003, 07:29	#3 \| Link
Potatoking Registered User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Sweden Posts: 39	So...can I sort this out or...should I just throw this idea out the window as long as I have the Pioneer?? __________________ If God sees You, shut the lights out.

6th May 2003, 11:11	#4 \| Link
ChrissyBoy Author of SVCD2DVDMPG+ Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: UK Posts: 74	The old SVCD->DVDR method produces good results on 90%+ of cases. It is however a non DVD spec compliant DVD you have as a result. So as mordant says Pioneer fall into the other 10%. The only options you have is do a proper re-encode to 353 or 720 horzontal resolution or get a cheap player (APEX or similar) for such DVDs. CB __________________ SVCD2DVDMPG, SVCD->DVDR Compliant MPGS SVCD2DVD, One click SVCD->DVDR with menus

6th May 2003, 11:15	#5 \| Link
Potatoking Registered User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Sweden Posts: 39	Right now I'm looking at the guide for Ulead DVD Movie Factory 2, to see if this little proggie can help me out. Many thanx for the response. __________________ If God sees You, shut the lights out.

7th May 2003, 07:24	#6 \| Link
Potatoking Registered User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Sweden Posts: 39	Yesterday I tried to enter my project into Ulead DMF2 but this should take over 40 hours of encoding the video....so I just forget it. As You all can see I have the problem that I have the Pioneer that will only play half the picture if I burn a DVD-SVCD. Now I have seen that SVCD2DVDmpg+ is released. Will this proggie help me out or do I have to encode them all (I have LOTR,4cd,SVCD) with TMPenc in "real" DVD-resolution and then author it with, for example Ulead DMF2? I have almost read everything I can get my hands on but I have to say I'm about to throw everything out the window. So...pls help me out __________________ If God sees You, shut the lights out.

6th May 2003, 05:27	#2 \| Link
mordant Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 123	Pioneer players don't like non-standard resolutions. They can play mpeg 2 (DVD/SVCD) as 352x480 or 480x480 but can not play mpeg 1 at 352x480 (you get half-screen effect). The same goes for DVD at 480x480, it will play but the non-standard resolution will cause it to play half screen.

7th May 2003, 07:35	#8 \| Link
Potatoking Registered User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Sweden Posts: 39	I will then try the SVCD2DVDMPG+ and see if I can get it to run on some buddies players. I can buy a new one for about £60 here in Sweden. Many thanx for the help. __________________ If God sees You, shut the lights out.

7th May 2003, 10:37	#9 \| Link
rjgn Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Newcastle, UK Posts: 66	There is a solution to this problem but it's a time intensive one. You can add pan and scan info using a program called mpegrepair. What you do is add the pan and scan tags at 480 x 480 and then select pan and scan on your dvd player when playing them back. Pioneer players will then display the picture properly. However on my lowley Duron 800 mpegrepair only does this in approximately real time. So not a great option if you've got loads of svcd's you want to put on dvdr. But if it's only the occasional one then it's not a problem.

7th May 2003, 10:59	#10 \| Link
Potatoking Registered User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Sweden Posts: 39	....and my reply is....can I use mpegrepair on already created vob´s? I have a DVD+R I cannot play but maybe this solution does it.... Damn...I had almost lost my hope but now it starts all over again __________________ If God sees You, shut the lights out.

7th May 2003, 11:33	#11 \| Link
Potatoking Registered User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Sweden Posts: 39	Where can I find this program? Someone have to help me....please......please..... __________________ If God sees You, shut the lights out.

7th May 2003, 16:38	#12 \| Link
xiaomeng_zhao Registered User Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 9	Why not change a better video player? Apparently "Windvd Platinum 4.5.11.7" is the first choice for the majority of professional "fever fans', which you can download from the free down load area of removed due to the dodgyness of the site Althoughas above is not the real url, but get rid of all numbers from it, you will be able to find the correct one^_^ Last edited by auenf; 23rd May 2003 at 15:24.

9th May 2003, 07:04	#13 \| Link
Potatoking Registered User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Sweden Posts: 39	I gave up.....I ran all my SVCD's through TmpEnc and got the DVD-resolution. Now I can see them in my damn Pioneer. __________________ If God sees You, shut the lights out.

14th May 2003, 17:24	#15 \| Link
rjgn Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Newcastle, UK Posts: 66	I'll certainly give it a try tonight. It's certainly a feature I would like to see implemented

15th May 2003, 18:19	#16 \| Link
ChrissyBoy Author of SVCD2DVDMPG+ Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: UK Posts: 74	How yer get on bonnie lad? __________________ SVCD2DVDMPG, SVCD->DVDR Compliant MPGS SVCD2DVD, One click SVCD->DVDR with menus

19th May 2003, 12:47	#17 \| Link
rjgn Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Newcastle, UK Posts: 66	Ack! apologies, got called away to work. As I live away when at work I've not been able to try it, but runnng the test now will post results soon.

20th May 2003, 11:34	#18 \| Link
Potatoking Registered User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Sweden Posts: 39	@rjgn Any news yet. I have also been away for a short vacation. (Edinburgh actually)..Ehmmm....love your country man.... I have not been able to try this. Sitting at work for the moment and have not my burner with me __________________ If God sees You, shut the lights out.

21st May 2003, 00:09	#19 \| Link
rjgn Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Newcastle, UK Posts: 66	Sample worked perfectly in my Pioneer 340. Video only on the left of the screen initially but when I switched to Pan & Scan it displayed fine. Just like I usually do when using mpegrepair.

21st May 2003, 09:45	#20 \| Link
ChrissyBoy Author of SVCD2DVDMPG+ Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: UK Posts: 74	Excellent!! Results so far: Works on: DV-414 DV-525 DV-333 c603c 340 not on 626D @rjgn: wanna beta test the app on a few complete svcds? (PM me) __________________ SVCD2DVDMPG, SVCD->DVDR Compliant MPGS SVCD2DVD, One click SVCD->DVDR with menus

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