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Old 7th August 2002, 19:17   #1  |  Link
Geezer-UK
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Lord Of The Rings ( sorry to put this in 2 forums)

can anyone help me with the chapter points on the Lord of The Rings Disc 2

VTS_01_1.VOB to VTS_01_5.VOB
has got a load of chapters points

in chapter X tractor it loads up VTS_01_0.IFO with 10 chapters
but the film has a lot more than this under the title page in Chapter X Tractor Title 1 to 15 how can i load all this in DVDMaestro

if anyone has copyed LOTR Disc 2 can you tell us how you done it

The VIDEO_01_0.IFO looks like this


VTS overview:

Menu attributes:
Video: MPEG-2 720x576 (PAL) (PAL 625/50) (16:9) (pan-scan)
SubPicture 1: Not Specified (2-bit rle )

Title Set (Movie) attributes:
Video: MPEG-2 720x576 (PAL) (PAL 625/50) (4:3) (not specified perm.display)
Audio 1: English (Dolby AC-3) 2ch 48Kbps DRC (ID: 0x80)
SubPicture 1: English (2-bit rle ) (ID: 0x20)

PGC_1 (program chain): [Title(TTN): 1] [00:41:40.02 / 25 fps] (Programs: 11) (Cells: 11) (uses VOB-IDs: 1)
[Ch 01] [Pg 01] [Cell 01] [V/C Id: 1/ 1] : time: 00:01:45.14 / 25 fps [Pos: 00:01:45.14] [Frames: 2639]
[Ch 02] [Pg 02] [Cell 02] [V/C Id: 1/ 2] : time: 00:10:59.22 / 25 fps [Pos: 00:12:45.11] [Frames: 19136]
[Ch 03] [Pg 03] [Cell 03] [V/C Id: 1/ 3] : time: 00:02:58.22 / 25 fps [Pos: 00:15:44.08] [Frames: 23608]
[Ch 04] [Pg 04] [Cell 04] [V/C Id: 1/ 4] : time: 00:01:42.24 / 25 fps [Pos: 00:17:27.07] [Frames: 26182]
[Ch 05] [Pg 05] [Cell 05] [V/C Id: 1/ 5] : time: 00:05:47.09 / 25 fps [Pos: 00:23:14.16] [Frames: 34866]
[Ch 06] [Pg 06] [Cell 06] [V/C Id: 1/ 6] : time: 00:02:26.16 / 25 fps [Pos: 00:25:41.07] [Frames: 38532]
[Ch 07] [Pg 07] [Cell 07] [V/C Id: 1/ 7] : time: 00:04:42.09 / 25 fps [Pos: 00:30:23.16] [Frames: 45591]
[Ch 08] [Pg 08] [Cell 08] [V/C Id: 1/ 8] : time: 00:05:20.21 / 25 fps [Pos: 00:35:44.12] [Frames: 53612]
[Ch 09] [Pg 09] [Cell 09] [V/C Id: 1/ 9] : time: 00:05:07.08 / 25 fps [Pos: 00:40:51.20] [Frames: 61295]
[Ch 10] [Pg 10] [Cell 10] [V/C Id: 1/10] : time: 00:00:47.22 / 25 fps [Pos: 00:41:39.17] [Frames: 62492]
[Ch 11] [Pg 11] [Cell 11] [V/C Id: 1/11] : time: 00:00:00.10 / 25 fps [Pos: 00:41:40.02] [Frames: 62502]

PGC_2 (program chain): [Title(TTN): 2] [00:21:28.10 / 25 fps] (Programs: 5) (Cells: 5) (uses VOB-IDs: 2)
[Ch 01] [Pg 01] [Cell 01] [V/C Id: 2/ 1] : time: 00:09:07.01 / 25 fps [Pos: 00:09:07.01] [Frames: 13676]
[Ch 02] [Pg 02] [Cell 02] [V/C Id: 2/ 2] : time: 00:09:17.24 / 25 fps [Pos: 00:18:25.00] [Frames: 27625]
[Ch 03] [Pg 03] [Cell 03] [V/C Id: 2/ 3] : time: 00:02:26.03 / 25 fps [Pos: 00:20:51.03] [Frames: 31278]
[Ch 04] [Pg 04] [Cell 04] [V/C Id: 2/ 4] : time: 00:00:36.22 / 25 fps [Pos: 00:21:28.00] [Frames: 32200]
[Ch 05] [Pg 05] [Cell 05] [V/C Id: 2/ 5] : time: 00:00:00.10 / 25 fps [Pos: 00:21:28.10] [Frames: 32210]

PGC_3 (program chain): [Title(TTN): 3] [00:16:47.10 / 25 fps] (Programs: 4) (Cells: 4) (uses VOB-IDs: 3)
[Ch 01] [Pg 01] [Cell 01] [V/C Id: 3/ 1] : time: 00:04:37.17 / 25 fps [Pos: 00:04:37.17] [Frames: 6942]
[Ch 02] [Pg 02] [Cell 02] [V/C Id: 3/ 2] : time: 00:05:38.13 / 25 fps [Pos: 00:10:16.05] [Frames: 15405]
[Ch 03] [Pg 03] [Cell 03] [V/C Id: 3/ 3] : time: 00:06:30.20 / 25 fps [Pos: 00:16:47.00] [Frames: 25175]
[Ch 04] [Pg 04] [Cell 04] [V/C Id: 3/ 4] : time: 00:00:00.10 / 25 fps [Pos: 00:16:47.10] [Frames: 25185]

PGC_4 (program chain): [Title(TTN): 4] [00:03:38.11 / 25 fps] (Programs: 2) (Cells: 2) (uses VOB-IDs: 4)
[Ch 01] [Pg 01] [Cell 01] [V/C Id: 4/ 1] : time: 00:03:38.01 / 25 fps [Pos: 00:03:38.01] [Frames: 5451]
[Ch 02] [Pg 02] [Cell 02] [V/C Id: 4/ 2] : time: 00:00:00.10 / 25 fps [Pos: 00:03:38.11] [Frames: 5461]

PGC_5 (program chain): [Title(TTN): 5] [00:00:32.05 / 25 fps] (Programs: 2) (Cells: 2) (uses VOB-IDs: 5)
[Ch 01] [Pg 01] [Cell 01] [V/C Id: 5/ 1] : time: 00:00:31.20 / 25 fps [Pos: 00:00:31.20] [Frames: 795]
[Ch 02] [Pg 02] [Cell 02] [V/C Id: 5/ 2] : time: 00:00:00.10 / 25 fps [Pos: 00:00:32.05] [Frames: 805]

PGC_6 (program chain): [Title(TTN): 6] [00:00:32.10 / 25 fps] (Programs: 2) (Cells: 2) (uses VOB-IDs: 6)
[Ch 01] [Pg 01] [Cell 01] [V/C Id: 6/ 1] : time: 00:00:32.00 / 25 fps [Pos: 00:00:32.00] [Frames: 800]
[Ch 02] [Pg 02] [Cell 02] [V/C Id: 6/ 2] : time: 00:00:00.10 / 25 fps [Pos: 00:00:32.10] [Frames: 810]

PGC_7 (program chain): [Title(TTN): 7] [00:00:32.10 / 25 fps] (Programs: 2) (Cells: 2) (uses VOB-IDs: 7)
[Ch 01] [Pg 01] [Cell 01] [V/C Id: 7/ 1] : time: 00:00:32.00 / 25 fps [Pos: 00:00:32.00] [Frames: 800]
[Ch 02] [Pg 02] [Cell 02] [V/C Id: 7/ 2] : time: 00:00:00.10 / 25 fps [Pos: 00:00:32.10] [Frames: 810]

PGC_8 (program chain): [Title(TTN): 8] [00:00:32.10 / 25 fps] (Programs: 2) (Cells: 2) (uses VOB-IDs: 8)
[Ch 01] [Pg 01] [Cell 01] [V/C Id: 8/ 1] : time: 00:00:32.00 / 25 fps [Pos: 00:00:32.00] [Frames: 800]
[Ch 02] [Pg 02] [Cell 02] [V/C Id: 8/ 2] : time: 00:00:00.10 / 25 fps [Pos: 00:00:32.10] [Frames: 810]

PGC_9 (program chain): [Title(TTN): 9] [00:00:32.05 / 25 fps] (Programs: 2) (Cells: 2) (uses VOB-IDs: 9)
[Ch 01] [Pg 01] [Cell 01] [V/C Id: 9/ 1] : time: 00:00:31.20 / 25 fps [Pos: 00:00:31.20] [Frames: 795]
[Ch 02] [Pg 02] [Cell 02] [V/C Id: 9/ 2] : time: 00:00:00.10 / 25 fps [Pos: 00:00:32.05] [Frames: 805]

PGC_10 (program chain): [Title(TTN): 10] [00:00:32.05 / 25 fps] (Programs: 2) (Cells: 2) (uses VOB-IDs: 10)
[Ch 01] [Pg 01] [Cell 01] [V/C Id: 10/ 1] : time: 00:00:31.20 / 25 fps [Pos: 00:00:31.20] [Frames: 795]
[Ch 02] [Pg 02] [Cell 02] [V/C Id: 10/ 2] : time: 00:00:00.10 / 25 fps [Pos: 00:00:32.05] [Frames: 805]

PGC_11 (program chain): [Title(TTN): 11] [00:03:02.00 / 25 fps] (Programs: 1) (Cells: 1) (uses VOB-IDs: 11)
[Ch 01] [Pg 01] [Cell 01] [V/C Id: 11/ 1] : time: 00:03:02.00 / 25 fps [Pos: 00:03:02.00] [Frames: 4550]

PGC_12 (program chain): [Title(TTN): 12] [00:00:31.22 / 25 fps] (Programs: 1) (Cells: 1) (uses VOB-IDs: 12)
[Ch 01] [Pg 01] [Cell 01] [V/C Id: 12/ 1] : time: 00:00:31.22 / 25 fps [Pos: 00:00:31.22] [Frames: 797]

PGC_13 (program chain): [Title(TTN): 13] [00:00:12.00 / 25 fps] (Programs: 1) (Cells: 1) (uses VOB-IDs: 13)
[Ch 01] [Pg 01] [Cell 01] [V/C Id: 13/ 1] : time: 00:00:12.00 / 25 fps [Pos: 00:00:12.00] [Frames: 300]

PGC_14 (program chain): [Title(TTN): 14] [00:03:11.20 / 25 fps] (Programs: 7) (Cells: 7) (uses VOB-IDs: 14,15,16,17,18,19)
[Ch 01] [Pg 01] [Cell 01] [V/C Id: 14/ 1] : time: 00:00:32.00 / 25 fps [Pos: 00:00:32.00] [Frames: 800]
[Ch 02] [Pg 02] [Cell 02] [V/C Id: 15/ 1] Layer Br.: time: 00:00:32.00 / 25 fps [Pos: 00:01:04.00] [Frames: 1600]
[Ch 03] [Pg 03] [Cell 03] [V/C Id: 16/ 1] Layer Br.: time: 00:00:31.20 / 25 fps [Pos: 00:01:35.20] [Frames: 2395]
[Ch 04] [Pg 04] [Cell 04] [V/C Id: 17/ 1] Layer Br.: time: 00:00:32.00 / 25 fps [Pos: 00:02:07.20] [Frames: 3195]
[Ch 05] [Pg 05] [Cell 05] [V/C Id: 18/ 1] Layer Br.: time: 00:00:31.20 / 25 fps [Pos: 00:02:39.15] [Frames: 3990]
[Ch 06] [Pg 06] [Cell 06] [V/C Id: 19/ 1] Layer Br.: time: 00:00:31.20 / 25 fps [Pos: 00:03:11.10] [Frames: 4785]
[Ch 07] [Pg 07] [Cell 07] [V/C Id: 19/ 2] : time: 00:00:00.10 / 25 fps [Pos: 00:03:11.20] [Frames: 4795]

PGC_15 (program chain): [Title(TTN): 15] [00:00:00.10 / 25 fps] (Programs: 1) (Cells: 1) (uses VOB-IDs: 20)
[Ch 01] [Pg 01] [Cell 01] [V/C Id: 20/ 1] : time: 00:00:00.10 / 25 fps [Pos: 00:00:00.10] [Frames: 10]

Menu Language Units: 1
Language Menu Unit 1: [English]

Language Menu Unit 1: [English]
Menu 1: [Root-Menu] (entry PGC) (Programs: 1) (Cells: 1) (uses VOB-IDs: 1)
Menu 2: [entry only] (Programs: 1) (Cells: 1) (uses VOB-IDs: 2)
Menu 3: [entry only] (Programs: 1) (Cells: 1) (uses VOB-IDs: 3)
Menu 4: [entry only] (Programs: 1) (Cells: 1) (uses VOB-IDs: 4)
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Old 7th August 2002, 23:57   #2  |  Link
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Are you just trying to make a copy or are you trying to re-author this DVD?

I'm planning on backing up lord of the rings soon so I'll let you know of my results.
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Old 8th August 2002, 00:11   #3  |  Link
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atreides93

im trying to copy (DVD9 to DVD5 Full copy)
but having a problem with

VIDEO_01_0.IFO

which has 15 pgc i dont know how to do this
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Old 24th August 2002, 17:26   #4  |  Link
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I think the problem is that we don't understand the chapters and chain info.
I too have the same problem and would appreciate suggestions.
Homer has suggested using smartripper to split the disk.
I haven't tried yet but would like more info.
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Old 29th August 2002, 00:46   #5  |  Link
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Lord Of The Rings Disk2

Geezer-UK,

Just looking into this myself so I'm no oracle, but I think this is to do with VTS_01 having 15 seperate PGCs (check it out in Smartripper and or DVD Decryptor). Each PGC can have it's own chapters, and in this case PGCs 1-3 have chapters, while the others don't (PGC4 is a music video by enya, 5-11 are trailers of varying sorts, 12 is the copywrite warning, 13 is the entertainment in video startup screen, 14 is another set of trailers all spliced togeter and 15 is the blank screen).
So its PGCs 1-3 that are causing you the confusion (and me to, I might add). PGC1 has 10 chapters, PGC2 has 4 and PGC3 has 3. You can check this out by looking under the format tab in chapter-x-tracter, then using the drop down arrow next to title to select each PGC (1-15). It should show 10, 4, 3 for the first three PGCs respectively, with PGC4-15 having no chapters.

You might try ripping each PGC seperately from VTS_01 (as mentioned in the CCE and IfoEdit guide (www.doom9.org/mpg/ifoedit-cce.htm). That way you can get the chapters for each PGC.

Once you get to the point where you are using Maestro, though, I can no longer help. I don't know the program at all.

And Gearo, splitting the disk is precisely what you need to do. As far as I can see, in this case you would need to rip VTS_01 (and possibly VTS_03) into seperate PGCs (there are a hell of a lot - 15 for VTS_01 alone) as these are the biggest chunks of the disk. Then you would need to re-encode PGC1-3 (using CCE ideally - check the IfoEdit and CCE link above). This might leave enough space to able to put it back together, but I doubt it (I should know tomorrow, all being well). If you need to get more space, you could then try re-encoding VTS_03 (I'm not even sure if this would work as I've not tried it myself yet)

Please bear in mind with all this that I'm tring to work it out myself, so none of the above is gospel.

Hope it helps, though.
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