Robocop unrippable???

Vienna · 9th March 2002, 14:51

Hallo,

I tried to rip Robocop 1 from the UK Robocop Trilogy Box.

There are the Theatrical Cut and the Director's Cut on the DVD via INTEGRATED BRANCHING (and I don't have any idea how this works)

I tried to rip the Director's Cut with Smart Ripper, DVD Decrypter and even with vStrip. It is not possible.

The Movie is in Program Chain 11.

In Chain 1 all Rip Programms show a time of 1:59 hrs. which is too long. Chains 2+3 show a time of 1:38.xx whith a difference of a few seconds. It looks like Chain 2+3 show the correct time of the two versions (difference is just 26 sec.)

If I rip Chain 1 and play the vobs the movie starts at the first Integrated Scene of the DC. Chain 2 is the normal Theatrical Cut. Chain 3 is shown with the correct time but ripped and played it also starts at the first DC Scene.

It saw in Smart Ripper that there are some Chapters with 0 MB and some other Things I've never seen before.

I had no problems until now even not with Seamless Branching or Multi Angle DVDs.

But HOW can I rip the Director's Cut???

Thanks in advandce,

Greetings, Vienna

LIGHTNING UK! · 9th March 2002, 18:31

Have you tried ripping with DVD Decrypter, and then using IFOEDIT to get the right version? Just an idea...it might work, it might not....but worth a try

Vienna · 9th March 2002, 19:36

Hallo,

I tried it now more than 20 times with no success. First it looked like i got it with ripping each chapter, but in the end I had the DC Scenes but there were missing 6 min. of the movie.

I found out that the disc has 3 angels in the DC Version with the integrated scenes and some chapters have two Cell ID's

Does anybody have an idea how to rip this disc?

Is there a ripper who can handle Multi Angle very well?

DVD Decryter and Smart Ripper even do not find the correct running time of the movie. vStrip shows it right but is also not able to rip the disc.

Greetings, Vienna

LIGHTNING UK! · 10th March 2002, 00:42

DVD Decrpyter wont find the running time at all....its doesnt do IFO parsing. Thats where IFOEDIT come in.

Vienna · 10th March 2002, 10:07

Hallo,

Finnaly I got it.

And guess how I ripped it.

All standard rip programms couldn't do the job, FairUse did it well !!!

I changed from FairUse to G-Knot because it is a lot faster to get same quality as 4 LM Encodings with FU, but after that I think I'll return to FU.

Greetings, Vienna

maven · 10th March 2002, 13:06

can you attach the IFO of that, please? or send me an email?

cheers!

Vienna · 10th March 2002, 15:15

Quote:

Originally posted by maven
can you attach the IFO of that, please? or send me an email?

cheers!

Hallo,

It's on the way :-)

Greetings, Vienna

LIGHTNING UK! · 11th March 2002, 01:02

maven,

Even though my program doesnt do much ifo stuff, I'd still be interested in finding out the reason for it not working...do you think you could let me/us know by replying in the thread. Thanks in advance.

maven · 11th March 2002, 10:59

sure... as soon as i get it, i'll let y'all know...

maven · 12th March 2002, 11:41

oi!

checked the IFO and from what i gather the cells are just arranged oddly in the VOBs (i.e. first a few scenes from director's cut, then the normal version which uses playback command to either play normally or jump back to the special version of the scenes in the beginning).

unfortunately, vStrip scans the VOBs linearly from beginning to end. i'll try to fix that soon-ish. until that happens, you can look at the IFO in vStrip GUI and rip the cells one by one for the version you want...

iparout · 30th August 2002, 16:55

Hi there.

Sorru to bring up such an old subject but I am trying to rip the Director's Cut as well and I am facing the same problems as the guy whio started this thread.

Can someone please tell me in idiot's language how you managed to rip the Director's Cut ?

I am using Smart Ripper or vStrip which are embedded in GKnot 0.26.

Thanks in advance.

cult · 31st August 2002, 16:38

hadnt any problems with r2pal directors cut of robocop and decrypter...
strange...

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Vienna Registered User Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 11	Robocop unrippable??? Hallo, I tried to rip Robocop 1 from the UK Robocop Trilogy Box. There are the Theatrical Cut and the Director's Cut on the DVD via INTEGRATED BRANCHING (and I don't have any idea how this works) I tried to rip the Director's Cut with Smart Ripper, DVD Decrypter and even with vStrip. It is not possible. The Movie is in Program Chain 11. In Chain 1 all Rip Programms show a time of 1:59 hrs. which is too long. Chains 2+3 show a time of 1:38.xx whith a difference of a few seconds. It looks like Chain 2+3 show the correct time of the two versions (difference is just 26 sec.) If I rip Chain 1 and play the vobs the movie starts at the first Integrated Scene of the DC. Chain 2 is the normal Theatrical Cut. Chain 3 is shown with the correct time but ripped and played it also starts at the first DC Scene. It saw in Smart Ripper that there are some Chapters with 0 MB and some other Things I've never seen before. I had no problems until now even not with Seamless Branching or Multi Angle DVDs. But HOW can I rip the Director's Cut??? Thanks in advandce, Greetings, Vienna

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LIGHTNING UK! Author of ImgBurn Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 1,973	Have you tried ripping with DVD Decrypter, and then using IFOEDIT to get the right version? Just an idea...it might work, it might not....but worth a try __________________ The Official ImgBurn Website

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Vienna Registered User Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 11	Hallo, I tried it now more than 20 times with no success. First it looked like i got it with ripping each chapter, but in the end I had the DC Scenes but there were missing 6 min. of the movie. I found out that the disc has 3 angels in the DC Version with the integrated scenes and some chapters have two Cell ID's Does anybody have an idea how to rip this disc? Is there a ripper who can handle Multi Angle very well? DVD Decryter and Smart Ripper even do not find the correct running time of the movie. vStrip shows it right but is also not able to rip the disc. Greetings, Vienna Last edited by Vienna; 9th March 2002 at 23:03.

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LIGHTNING UK! Author of ImgBurn Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 1,973	DVD Decrpyter wont find the running time at all....its doesnt do IFO parsing. Thats where IFOEDIT come in. __________________ The Official ImgBurn Website

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maven Registered User Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: DE Posts: 122	robocop IFO can you attach the IFO of that, please? or send me an email? cheers! __________________ [maven] - Wavelet Image Compression Library

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Vienna Registered User Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 11	Hallo, Finnaly I got it. And guess how I ripped it. All standard rip programms couldn't do the job, FairUse did it well !!! I changed from FairUse to G-Knot because it is a lot faster to get same quality as 4 LM Encodings with FU, but after that I think I'll return to FU. Greetings, Vienna

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LIGHTNING UK! Author of ImgBurn Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 1,973	maven, Even though my program doesnt do much ifo stuff, I'd still be interested in finding out the reason for it not working...do you think you could let me/us know by replying in the thread. Thanks in advance. __________________ The Official ImgBurn Website

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maven Registered User Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: DE Posts: 122	sure... as soon as i get it, i'll let y'all know... __________________ [maven] - Wavelet Image Compression Library

12th March 2002, 11:41	#10 \| Link
maven Registered User Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: DE Posts: 122	Robocop _not_ unrippable oi! checked the IFO and from what i gather the cells are just arranged oddly in the VOBs (i.e. first a few scenes from director's cut, then the normal version which uses playback command to either play normally or jump back to the special version of the scenes in the beginning). unfortunately, vStrip scans the VOBs linearly from beginning to end. i'll try to fix that soon-ish. until that happens, you can look at the IFO in vStrip GUI and rip the cells one by one for the version you want... __________________ [maven] - Wavelet Image Compression Library

30th August 2002, 16:55	#11 \| Link
iparout Registered User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Greece Posts: 403	Hi there. Sorru to bring up such an old subject but I am trying to rip the Director's Cut as well and I am facing the same problems as the guy whio started this thread. Can someone please tell me in idiot's language how you managed to rip the Director's Cut ? I am using Smart Ripper or vStrip which are embedded in GKnot 0.26. Thanks in advance.

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cult Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: greece Posts: 383	hadnt any problems with r2pal directors cut of robocop and decrypter... strange...