Avisynth 2.5.8 won't start on XP x64 SP2

MrVideo · 17th February 2015, 17:11

All runs well on XP x86 SP3, but the box that I was using for this work needed to be rebuilt, so I decided to go with the XP x64 install.

I did the install of 2.5.8 (32 bit) and when I run my script that hands off the AVS script to the x264 encoder (64 bit), the system errors saying that it can't load avisynth:

Code:

avs (error): failed to load avisynth

Of course, x264 then bails as it couldn't open the file via avisynth.

I also downloaded the x64 version and did the install, but still no luck.

Any clues as to why avisynth won't start? Hints as to what to look for will be appreciate. If need be, I'll reinstall XP x86 SP3 to get up and running again.

Thanks in advance.

Groucho2004 · 17th February 2015, 17:15

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Originally Posted by MrVideo

I did the install of 2.5.8 (32 bit) and when I run my script that hands off the AVS script to the x264 encoder (64 bit), the system errors saying that it can't load avisynth:

A 64 bit app cannot load a 32 bit DLL (avisynth.dll). Use either x264 (32 bit) or pipe the script to the encoder.

Why are you using 2.5.8? The 2.6 RC1 version is more mature/stable and faster.

MrVideo · 17th February 2015, 17:40

OK, I'll install the 32 bit version of x264.

Didn't know there was a 2.6 version. I tracked it down, but it currently won't download as sourceforge is "offline" for the moment.

Groucho2004 · 17th February 2015, 17:43

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Originally Posted by MrVideo

it currently won't download as sourceforge is "offline" for the moment.

Works for me...

LoRd_MuldeR · 17th February 2015, 17:43

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Originally Posted by MrVideo

OK, I'll install the 32 bit version of x264.

If you wish to use 32-Bit Avisynth with 64-Bit x264, you can use Avs2YUV to pipe the source into x264, as Groucho2004 has suggested.

Or you use a GUI that does this automatically for you...

MrVideo · 17th February 2015, 18:40

OK, here is the update:

1) Uninstalled (manually removed) the avisynth 64 bit files (two of them)
2) Ran the avisynth 2.5.8 uninstall program
3) Removed the 64 bit x264
4) Installed the x264 binary in the appropriate location
5) Ran the avisynth 2.6 install.

Now when I run my script, it starts. But, for some reason x264 is complaining that msvcr71.dll is missing. I had to dismiss the error popup twice, yet the job continued. The dll is nowhere on the C drive.

On the XP x86 box, it is everywhere, including c:\windows\system32

I don't dare copy that version over.

Weird.

MrVideo · 17th February 2015, 18:42

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Originally Posted by Groucho2004

Works for me...

When I went back, it kinda still complained about the page not being available to download the file. But, the direct link worked.

Groucho2004 · 17th February 2015, 18:44

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Originally Posted by LoRd_MuldeR

If you wish to use 32-Bit Avisynth with 64-Bit x264, you can use Avs2YUV to pipe the source into x264

The version you linked is not "large address aware", I suggest using this one.

MrVideo · 17th February 2015, 18:48

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Originally Posted by LoRd_MuldeR

Or you use a GUI that does this automatically for you...

GUIs not viable. The whole encoding process is controlled by a Zsh script that is passed options as to what kind out output I am looking for. All kinds of video files are recoded on my system.

Right now a bunch of AVS templates are edited to include the file name. I'm going to have to take the time and update the script to build the AVS script from scratch, based upon what I want to ultimately happen.

I love avisynth. I just wished there was a Linux version.

StainlessS · 17th February 2015, 19:36

Dont know if you still have msvcr71.dll issues but here a little about it: http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.ph...00#post1696600

And here zip of the dll's (latest ones available I think, although the ones you have might also be suitable): http://www.mediafire.com/download/12...0_Runtimes.rar

LoRd_MuldeR · 17th February 2015, 20:15

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Originally Posted by MrVideo

GUIs not viable. The whole encoding process is controlled by a Zsh script that is passed options as to what kind out output I am looking for. All kinds of video files are recoded on my system.

Well, you can do the same thing manually. Or by script.

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Originally Posted by MrVideo

I love avisynth. I just wished there was a Linux version.

There's AvxSynth for Linux. Also, you can run Avs2YUV+Avisynth under Wine and then pipe the output into a "native" Linux build of x264.

MrVideo · 17th February 2015, 21:08

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Originally Posted by StainlessS

And here zip of the dll's (latest ones available I think, although the ones you have might also be suitable): http://www.mediafire.com/download/12...0_Runtimes.rar

Thanks, I've downloaded it.

MrVideo · 17th February 2015, 21:18

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Originally Posted by LoRd_MuldeR

There's AvxSynth for Linux. Also, you can run Avs2YUV+Avisynth under Wine and then pipe the output into a "native" Linux build of x264.

The link fails. It is right, but it just doesn't work.

This is picky, but going to Linux would require that I be able to transfer my Z-shell scripts and avs filters to Linux, 100%.

Oh crap, there is a problem going to Linux. DGDecNV is not ported to Linux. That is a major part of the whole process.

LoRd_MuldeR · 17th February 2015, 22:24

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Originally Posted by MrVideo

The link fails. It is right, but it just doesn't work.

Strange, works here. I mean the link. Cannot much say how "usable" AvxSynth is at this time.

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Originally Posted by MrVideo

This is picky, but going to Linux would require that I be able to transfer my Z-shell scripts and avs filters to Linux, 100%.

Well, if you run Avs2YUV+Avisynth inside Wine, the Avisynth-side wouldn't change. It's an additional detour though.

And installing Zsh on Linux shouldn't be a big deal either.

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Originally Posted by MrVideo

Oh crap, there is a problem going to Linux. DGDecNV is not ported to Linux. That is a major part of the whole process.

That is a problem, because I fear DGDecNV wouldn't work inside Wine. You can try an alternative, like FFMS2 or L-SMASH, though.

MrVideo · 18th February 2015, 03:31

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Originally Posted by LoRd_MuldeR

Strange, works here. I mean the link. Cannot much say how "usable" AvxSynth is at this time.

I use Opera under Linux and the link doesn't work. Not only from your posting here, but from google and another site that talks about AvxSynth.

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Well, if you run Avs2YUV+Avisynth inside Wine, the Avisynth-side wouldn't change. It's an additional detour though.

A lot of work, for how much gain?

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And installing Zsh on Linux shouldn't be a big deal either.

Zsh is the shell I've been using for over a decade under Solaris and Linux. It is a standard installation for both. I use Fedora and it is just an option to install it (shell selections) I have cygwin installed on my XP boxes and it gives me the environment I need to put avisynth to good use.

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That is a problem, because I fear DGDecNV wouldn't work inside Wine. You can try an alternative, like FFMS2 or L-SMASH, though.

Looks like at this point in time I'll be sticking with my current tools and platform. I have computers assigned for various tasks.

Thanks for the info. Who knows what the future will bring.

Speaking of the future... is there talk about getting AviSynth and all of the DLL plugins officially working under 64 bit? I totally forgot about the 64 bit AviSynth not working with the 32 bit plugins. It was a long night rebuilding the system, i.e., no sleep.

jpsdr · 18th February 2015, 10:01

You can also install Avisynth+, which has a 64 bits version, and it's working perfectly fine, and you can still use your 64 bits version of x264.

MrVideo · 18th February 2015, 17:51

Does Avisynth+ have 64 bit plugins as well?

From what I can see from the Doom9 forum, yes, it can. But, I've noticed that it appears that work on the project has come to a stop. Doesn't give a warm fuzzy.

MrVideo · 18th February 2015, 18:14

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Originally Posted by LoRd_MuldeR

Strange, works here. I mean the link.

Found the problem. They are using a security protocol that was not enabled in my browsers. Years of going to https sites and within the last couple of days, I've hit two that wouldn't load.

Groucho2004 · 18th February 2015, 18:15

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Originally Posted by MrVideo

Does Avisynth+ have 64 bit plugins as well?

There are some, not many. You'll have to search the forum.

Whether you need 64 bit Avisynth or not depends on the memory requirements of your scripts. You should only switch to AVS64 if your script eats up more than 4 GB which only happens with extreme (temporal) filtering and/or extreme frame sizes.
And then there are probably no 64 bit versions of the filters you want to use. Ironic, isn't it?

MrVideo · 18th February 2015, 18:35

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Originally Posted by Groucho2004

There are some, not many. You'll have to search the forum.

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Whether you need 64 bit Avisynth or not depends on the memory requirements of your scripts. You should only switch to AVS64 if your script eats up more than 4 GB which only happens with extreme (temporal) filtering and/or extreme frame sizes.

Thanks for the tip. After several years of using AVS, I've yet to run into a memory issue.

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And then there are probably no 64 bit versions of the filters you want to use. Ironic, isn't it?

Ironic indeed. Thanks for info. I'll just stick with the 32 bit version.

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MrVideo Registered User Join Date: May 2007 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 2,132	Avisynth 2.5.8 won't start on XP x64 SP2 All runs well on XP x86 SP3, but the box that I was using for this work needed to be rebuilt, so I decided to go with the XP x64 install. I did the install of 2.5.8 (32 bit) and when I run my script that hands off the AVS script to the x264 encoder (64 bit), the system errors saying that it can't load avisynth: Code: avs (error): failed to load avisynth Of course, x264 then bails as it couldn't open the file via avisynth. I also downloaded the x64 version and did the install, but still no luck. Any clues as to why avisynth won't start? Hints as to what to look for will be appreciate. If need be, I'll reinstall XP x86 SP3 to get up and running again. Thanks in advance.

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StainlessS HeartlessS Usurer Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Over the rainbow Posts: 10,980	Dont know if you still have msvcr71.dll issues but here a little about it: http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.ph...00#post1696600 And here zip of the dll's (latest ones available I think, although the ones you have might also be suitable): http://www.mediafire.com/download/12...0_Runtimes.rar __________________ I sometimes post sober. StainlessS@MediaFire ::: AND/OR ::: StainlessS@SendSpace "Some infinities are bigger than other infinities", but how many of them are infinitely bigger ???

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MrVideo Registered User Join Date: May 2007 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 2,132	Does Avisynth+ have 64 bit plugins as well? From what I can see from the Doom9 forum, yes, it can. But, I've noticed that it appears that work on the project has come to a stop. Doesn't give a warm fuzzy. Last edited by MrVideo; 18th February 2015 at 18:31.

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MrVideo Registered User Join Date: May 2007 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 2,132	OK, I'll install the 32 bit version of x264. Didn't know there was a 2.6 version. I tracked it down, but it currently won't download as sourceforge is "offline" for the moment.

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MrVideo Registered User Join Date: May 2007 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 2,132	OK, here is the update: 1) Uninstalled (manually removed) the avisynth 64 bit files (two of them) 2) Ran the avisynth 2.5.8 uninstall program 3) Removed the 64 bit x264 4) Installed the x264 binary in the appropriate location 5) Ran the avisynth 2.6 install. Now when I run my script, it starts. But, for some reason x264 is complaining that msvcr71.dll is missing. I had to dismiss the error popup twice, yet the job continued. The dll is nowhere on the C drive. On the XP x86 box, it is everywhere, including c:\windows\system32 I don't dare copy that version over. Weird.

18th February 2015, 10:01	#16 \| Link
jpsdr Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: France Posts: 2,316	You can also install Avisynth+, which has a 64 bits version, and it's working perfectly fine, and you can still use your 64 bits version of x264.