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Old 11th July 2014, 04:55   #1  |  Link
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Use DSS2 without installing Haali?

I would like to be able to use the DSS2 filter without actually installing Haali Media Splitter. I have extracted all of the files from the setup executable using 7-zip. I understand I need avss.dll. Is there anything else needed? Also, how do I register the dll to get it recognized by MeGUI?
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Old 11th July 2014, 14:37   #2  |  Link
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IIRC, you'll need to have also the following files in the same folder as the avs DLL:

splitter.ax, mkx.dll, mkzlib.dll and mkunicode.dll. Again IIRC, register mkx.dll BEFORE registering splitter.ax.

Supposing you cannot (un)register DLLs/OCXs via Explorer's context-menu,
then open a command-prompt onto the target folder and run:
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regsvr32 filename.ext
NOTICE, this does work with a "normal" Avisynth setup,
I have no idea whether it's sufficient for MeGUI, which I've never used.

Besides, you may wish to remove the Registry entries which force the use of HMS as "THE" source filter for MKVs/MKAs.

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Haali Media Splitter is 10 years old already,
what's the point of keeping its source-code closed (or outdated)?
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Thanks. I moved everything into the "plugins" directory within my AviSynth directory. I registered mkx.dll and splitter.ax successfully. However, upon trying to register for the other three (avss.dll, etc.), I came across this error:

"The module 'avss.dll' was loaded but the entry-point DllRegisterServer was not found. Make sure that 'avss.dll' is a valid DLL or OCX file and then try again."
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Old 11th July 2014, 18:51   #4  |  Link
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avss.dll does not need to be registered.
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Hmm..it still doesn't seem to be working. Is there any way to have Haali installed without it being used as the primary splitter (I currently use LAV)?
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Yes, after installing Haali, open Regedit, go to
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HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Media Type\Extensions
and delete the .mka, .mkv, .mks entries created by mkx.dll.
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That doesn't seem to have worked, unfortunately. When playing an .mkv file, Haali still pops up in the Windows tray (which I presume means it is being used)..any other ideas?
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1) Reboot and try again

2) Are you sure you used regedit "as an administrator"?

3) As a last resort, re-install LAV Filters...
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4) Drop Haali altogether, then switch to DSS2mod

http://code.google.com/p/xvid4psp/do...rs.7z&can=2&q=

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Do I delete the entire key entry (i.e. the 'mka', 'mkv', and 'mks' "folders")?

1) Will try
2) Yes
3) Will try (if above fails)
4) Thanks, is this the same as the D2SS found in Haali?

Thanks for helping btw
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4) sort of, IIRC the docu says it's DSS2 without the splitter's annoyingware
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Umm... when installing Haali, just un-tick every option. I have it installed ONLY for use in MeGUI and it is never used when playing videos (I too use LAV)

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Umm... when installing Haali, just un-tick every option. I have it installed ONLY for use in MeGUI and it is never used when playing videos (I too use LAV)

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Really? I did that and still Haali always runs when I play MKVs. I found a workaround..I think. I added all of the Haali filters to MPC's external filters list and set them all to "block".
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Why not try using Codec Tweak Tool?

Go to "Preferred Splitters" and switch MKV from Haali to LAV (for both columns: x86+x64).
I believe it'll also automatically register LAV for MKA as well.
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Why not try using Codec Tweak Tool?

Go to "Preferred Splitters" and switch MKV from Haali to LAV (for both columns: x86+x64).
I believe it'll also automatically register LAV for MKA as well.
Thanks that worked! BTW, when the popup asking me about automatic source filter selection for ... and saying none of the popular filters are enabled, should I enable them (yes or no)?
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You can search for and remove all references to {55DA30FC-F16B-49FC-BAA5-AE59FC65F82D} as well, once you've switched them to another splitter with Codec Tweak (doing that manually is tedious); that's the Haali Splitter CLSID. DSS2Mod is probably the quickest solution if you aren't going to use anything else from Haali though.
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Why not try using Codec Tweak Tool?
My bad — I completely forgot to add: open Graphstudio and

"reduce the merit of splitter.ax to a reasonable value"

Gomen nasai =^.^=

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Thanks that worked! BTW, when the popup asking me about automatic source filter selection for ... and saying none of the popular filters are enabled, should I enable them (yes or no)?
I meant to reply but the forum went offline for a bit yesterday.

The other two posts also have very good information.
foxyshadis, info especially.
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You can search for and remove all references to {55DA30FC-F16B-49FC-BAA5-AE59FC65F82D} as well, once you've switched them to another splitter with Codec Tweak (doing that manually is tedious); that's the Haali Splitter CLSID. DSS2Mod is probably the quickest solution if you aren't going to use anything else from Haali though.
How would I use DSS2Mod with MEGUI (AviSynth 2.6 MT Alpha 5)? Do I just stick it in the 'plugins' directory under AviSynth's program files and register the dll?

Thanks for the help!
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Maybe you can use this:

EDIT: I had attachment two reg files with classes and other entries. You should adapt it to your paths

EDIT: I had re-up file adapted for CCCP codecs on x64 system (Path=C:\Program Files (x86)\Combined Community Codec Pack\Filters\Haali)
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File Type: 7z Keys.7z (3.7 KB, 22 views)
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