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Old 16th March 2015, 15:08   #361  |  Link
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It wasn't my intention to troll. Actually Microsoft have summed up what I said (and keeping in mind this page isn't new):
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-AU/w...d-support-help

With that in mind, and people still using XP for banking and other financial transfers, I just fully believe it's continued use shouldn't be encouraged.
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Old 16th March 2015, 15:42   #362  |  Link
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It's 2015, not 2007. In 2007, there was a reason to stick to XP - Windows Vista. There is really no valid reason to to stick with XP any more.
Granted, software/driver support for XP isn't universal any more, but even in 2015 the best Windows upgrade scenario I can expect still seems to be the software I use will continue to work as it always has.

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If they're too stubborn to change from XP why on earth are they wanting to latest encoding tools?
It's a tangible benefit thing and a not an upgrading just for the sake of it thing.
The next PC I build (which is well overdue) won't run XP, but this one does (and very possibly will until it dies) so it'd be nice to know when updated software no longer supports XP. If that's okay with you?

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Old 16th March 2015, 18:10   #363  |  Link
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@xp users try this: https://www.mediafire.com/folder/17q...t/LSMASH-Works

Some time ago I build the dll for personal use, but then I stopped when the_weirdo offers his builds. It was easy to reactivate my build environment now...
Build with VS2010, tell me if it works and how speed compares.

I mostly agree that it is a bad idea to use xp on production/online systems these days, but it is not up to us to force anybody to upgrade.
Everybody must self decide and weight up the risks.

I personally use a NT 5.2 x64 virtual machine on my Linux PC for Windows specific tasks, because a Win7 VM would need 3 times the disk space.
And this system got all updates via offline method and never saw an online connection.
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Old 17th March 2015, 01:36   #364  |  Link
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@xp users try this: https://www.mediafire.com/folder/17q...t/LSMASH-Works

Some time ago I build the dll for personal use, but then I stopped when the_weirdo offers his builds. It was easy to reactivate my build environment now...
Build with VS2010, tell me if it works and how speed compares.
I haven't checked for any speed difference yet but it definitely works on XP. Thank you!

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I mostly agree that it is a bad idea to use xp on production/online systems these days, but it is not up to us to force anybody to upgrade.
Everybody must self decide and weight up the risks.
I honestly don't know how people get infected. It must take a bit of effort, even when running XP. It's not like we're all still using IE6 and in danger of an ActiveX drive-by infection wherever we go.
No antivirus program here. No anti-malware program. No software firewall. Just me, XP and Firefox (behind a router). I haven't even run Windows update in over a year. Around once per year or so I do install anti-virus software and run a full scan before restoring the previous Windows image. Just to see what it'll find. Then I restore the image, update everything and create a new one. I've been doing that for years and so far the nastiest thing a scan has found is a naughty cookie or two.
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Old 17th March 2015, 02:45   #365  |  Link
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Well at least please let people know of the limitations everywhere that you post your links.
Thank you.
You're right. It's my fault. Sorry about that. When I made the change, I forgot to announce it here. Then I'd completely forgotten about it until hello_hello reported his problem.

I'm not forcing anyone to upgrade. They're free to use whichever OS that suits them. That said, I've my own decision and I'm not trying to please everyone.
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I'm not forcing anyone to upgrade.
Yes I know, sorry if I sounded curt, was not my intent and is of course your decision.
Anyways, Peace bro

PS, Thank you Jonesy (I hate being called that), I'll give it a try
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I honestly don't know how people get infected.
It's a mystery to me as well. I think it's Pebcac.

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No antivirus program here. No anti-malware program. No software firewall. Just me, XP and Firefox (behind a router). I haven't even run Windows update in over a year. Around once per year or so I do install anti-virus software and run a full scan before restoring the previous Windows image. Just to see what it'll find. Then I restore the image, update everything and create a new one. I've been doing that for years and so far the nastiest thing a scan has found is a naughty cookie or two.
Pretty much the same here. I do however use a software firewall, mainly to monitor any odd activities. Call me paranoid.

The only time I got a virus/worm was in the early 2000's (Blaster). At that time I used Win2000, ISDN dialup without any firewall. I just restored my Ghost image and the problem was solved in 5 minutes.
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Old 17th March 2015, 20:19   #368  |  Link
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Only the LWLibavVideoSource builds with libav should be able to handle 10bit x264 content, right?
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Only the LWLibavVideoSource builds with libav should be able to handle 10bit x264 content, right?
No. Both builds with FFmpeg and Libav should be able to do that.
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Strange, for me both don't.
L-SMASH-Works-r729-20141117-32bit-Libav
L-SMASH-Works-r784-20150301-32bit
both only produce garbled output and my script looks like this:
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LoadPlugin("G:\MkvCutter\LSMASHSource.dll")
LWLibavVideoSource("H:\Output\HIGH10~1.MKV", cache=false)

Here's also the mediainfo data of the source:
Code:
General
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Count of stream of this kind             : 1
Kind of stream                           : General
Kind of stream                           : General
Stream identifier                        : 0
Unique ID                                : 173785410236381370390882345944681015379
Unique ID                                : 173785410236381370390882345944681015379 (0x82BDDA40884D25E1AF571D15FC4FE853)
Count of video streams                   : 1
Video_Format_List                        : AVC
Video_Format_WithHint_List               : AVC
Codecs Video                             : AVC
Video_Language_List                      : English
Complete name                            : h:\Output\high10_10bit.mkv
Folder name                              : h:\Output
File name                                : high10_10bit
File extension                           : mkv
Format                                   : Matroska
Format                                   : Matroska
Format/Url                               : http://packs.matroska.org/
Format/Extensions usually used           : mkv mk3d mka mks
Commercial name                          : Matroska
Format version                           : Version 4 / Version 2
Codec                                    : Matroska
Codec                                    : Matroska
Codec/Url                                : http://packs.matroska.org/
Codec/Extensions usually used            : mkv mk3d mka mks
File size                                : 7234313
File size                                : 6.90 MiB
File size                                : 7 MiB
File size                                : 6.9 MiB
File size                                : 6.90 MiB
File size                                : 6.899 MiB
Duration                                 : 17160
Duration                                 : 17s 160ms
Duration                                 : 17s 160ms
Duration                                 : 17s 160ms
Duration                                 : 00:00:17.160
Duration                                 : 00:00:17:04
Duration                                 : 00:00:17.160 (00:00:17:04)
Overall bit rate                         : 3372640
Overall bit rate                         : 3 373 Kbps
Frame rate                               : 25.000
Frame rate                               : 25.000 fps
Frame count                              : 429
Stream size                              : 143963
Stream size                              : 141 KiB (2%)
Stream size                              : 141 KiB
Stream size                              : 141 KiB
Stream size                              : 141 KiB
Stream size                              : 140.6 KiB
Stream size                              : 141 KiB (2%)
Proportion of this stream                : 0.01990
Encoded date                             : UTC 2015-03-17 20:03:51
File creation date                       : UTC 2015-03-17 20:03:44.514
File creation date (local)               : 2015-03-17 21:03:44.514
File last modification date              : UTC 2015-03-17 20:03:51.913
File last modification date (local)      : 2015-03-17 21:03:51.913
Writing application                      : mkvmerge v7.5.0 ('Glass Culture') 64bit built on Jan 26 2015 13:43:13
Writing library                          : libebml v1.3.1 + libmatroska v1.4.2
Writing library                          : libebml v1.3.1 + libmatroska v1.4.2
Encoding Gui                             : Hybrid 2015.03.16.1

Video
Count                                    : 297
Count of stream of this kind             : 1
Kind of stream                           : Video
Kind of stream                           : Video
Stream identifier                        : 0
StreamOrder                              : 0
ID                                       : 1
ID                                       : 1
Unique ID                                : 6920789142181302940
Format                                   : AVC
Format/Info                              : Advanced Video Codec
Format/Url                               : http://developers.videolan.org/x264.h
tml
Commercial name                          : AVC
Format profile                           : High 10@L3.0
Format settings                          : CABAC / 4 Ref Frames
Format settings, CABAC                   : Yes
Format settings, CABAC                   : Yes
Format settings, ReFrames                : 4
Format settings, ReFrames                : 4 frames
Internet media type                      : video/H264
Codec ID                                 : V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC
Codec ID/Url                             : http://ffdshow-tryout.sourceforge.net
/
Codec                                    : V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC
Codec                                    : AVC
Codec/Family                             : AVC
Codec/Info                               : Advanced Video Codec
Codec/Url                                : http://ffdshow-tryout.sourceforge.net
/
Codec profile                            : High 10@L3.0
Codec settings                           : CABAC / 4 Ref Frames
Codec settings, CABAC                    : Yes
Codec_Settings_RefFrames                 : 4
Duration                                 : 17160
Duration                                 : 17s 160ms
Duration                                 : 17s 160ms
Duration                                 : 17s 160ms
Duration                                 : 00:00:17.160
Duration                                 : 00:00:17:04
Duration                                 : 00:00:17.160 (00:00:17:04)
Bit rate                                 : 3305524
Bit rate                                 : 3 306 Kbps
Width                                    : 640
Width                                    : 640 pixels
Height                                   : 352
Height                                   : 352 pixels
Pixel aspect ratio                       : 1.000
Display aspect ratio                     : 1.818
Display aspect ratio                     : 16:9
Frame rate mode                          : CFR
Frame rate mode                          : Constant
Frame rate                               : 25.000
Frame rate                               : 25.000 fps
Frame count                              : 429
Resolution                               : 10
Resolution                               : 10 bits
Colorimetry                              : 4:2:0
Color space                              : YUV
Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:0
Bit depth                                : 10
Bit depth                                : 10 bits
Scan type                                : Progressive
Scan type                                : Progressive
Interlacement                            : PPF
Interlacement                            : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)                       : 0.587
Delay                                    : 0
Delay                                    : 00:00:00.000
Delay, origin                            : Container
Delay, origin                            : Container
Stream size                              : 7090350
Stream size                              : 6.76 MiB (98%)
Stream size                              : 7 MiB
Stream size                              : 6.8 MiB
Stream size                              : 6.76 MiB
Stream size                              : 6.762 MiB
Stream size                              : 6.76 MiB (98%)
Proportion of this stream                : 0.98010
Writing library                          : x264 - core 146 r2538 121396c
Writing library                          : x264 core 146 r2538 121396c
Writing library/Name                     : x264
Writing library/Version                  : core 146 r2538 121396c
Encoding settings                        : cabac=1 / ref=3 / deblock=1:0:0 / analyse=0x3:0x111 / me=hex / subme=5 / psy=1 / psy_rd=1.00:0.00 / mixed_ref=1 / me_range=16 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=0 / 8x8dct=1 / cqm=0 / deadzone=21,11 / fast_pskip=0 / chroma_qp_offset=0 / threads=12 / lookahead_threads=2 / sliced_threads=0 / nr=0 / decimate=1 / interlaced=0 / bluray_compat=0 / constrained_intra=0 / bframes=3 / b_pyramid=2 / b_adapt=1 / b_bias=0 / direct=3 / weightb=1 / open_gop=0 / weightp=1 / keyint=250 / keyint_min=25 / scenecut=40 / intra_refresh=0 / rc=cqp / mbtree=0 / qp=18 / ip_ratio=1.40 / pb_ratio=1.30 / aq=0
Default                                  : Yes
Default                                  : Yes
Forced                                   : Yes
Forced                                   : Yes
colour_description_present               : Yes
Matrix coefficients                      : BT.601
Color range                              : Limited
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Old 18th March 2015, 07:14   #371  |  Link
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Unless something has changed, it's LSMASHSource itself that doesn't support >8 bit in AviSynth. It's probably just doing a straight input->output treatment of the pixfmt, and since AviSynth doesn't have >8 bit pixfmts, that's what you get. In VapourSynth you'd get the proper image.
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Yes, you have to force a compatible output format:
format="YUV420P8" or format="YUV420P16" (stacked)
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both only produce garbled output and my script looks like this:
This is exactly the correct output of a high bit depth video.

You'll need a tool that can display high bit depth preview, or, you'll have to force a 8 bit output, which is YUV420P8 as said above.
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What is the runtime situation currently? Doesn't it work without installing a runtime? A few StaxRip users have problems running the plugin, for me it runs but I have installed Visual Studio 2013 Community Edition of course.
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If this is still true they need VC++2013: http://avisynth.nl/index.php/LSMASHSource
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How much bigger would the file size be if it was statically linked and provided as 7z download? Could anybody help with a building and uploading this?
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So, is L-SMASH broken for decoding interlaced content out of MKV? I get jumps no mater which field order I use when using QTGMC.
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A broken interlacing is more probable; or Telecine instead of Interlacing. Did you provide a sample of your material?
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It deinterlaces with DGDecode. It deinterlaces with L-SMASH out of .h264 (though it sets as 119/2 fps).
Out of MKV with QTGMC it thinks it's 120fps and it jerks back and forth if you set L-SMASH to 30000/1001 (though not quite as bad as if the field order is wrong).

[s]Out of MP4 with LSMASHVideoSource and no filters I got several instances of "failed to make a frame."
And that ain't right:[/s] E: never mind, that's in the mp4. First time I used this drive was for this MP4, so there might be an issue with it.
http://s14.postimg.org/t0wxc5cvh/untitled.jpg

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The problem can come from your mkv : if the original container of your video was ts, and if you opened it directly in MKVmerge, the framerate can be wrong, even if you specified the correct framerate in MKVmerge.
I noticed this problem with several interlaced H264 videos. After remux in MKV, MediaInfo detects VFR while it's CFR.
To avoid this, the ts has to be demuxed in elementary streams before remux in mkv.
But it's not too late, you can still demux mkv in elementary streams and remux it.

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