SubRip 1.50 Beta 5 (unofficial)

Frogger13 · 30th April 2011, 09:35

As some might find this helpfull lets share it

For all these with big character matrixes and some wrong character, here's a mod that will allow you to easily identify the bad characters in the Matrix entry and correct/delete them:

Links to unofficial version 1.50 beta 5:

Program: http://www.mediafire.com/?d3aa3rp4a43o0bm

Code: http://www.mediafire.com/?epbh8ifhc8pwzvd

Enjoy

GrofLuigi · 30th April 2011, 19:16

That's just what I needed.

I will try it soon, unfortunately it might not be very soon.

GL

Frogger13 · 30th April 2011, 20:34

You're welcome

The software is written in Pascal/Delphi and has a very "Guru" style coding (modules called "Unit 1, Unit 2" etc) both of which makes it very difficult to understand.

But I guess the way this new feature works is more than enough to debug matrixes in a few seconds.

If you find some characters to be wrong or mixed up betweet capital and normal size (not the problem when "i" and "I" get mixed up where "I" is recognized as an "l" where nothing ca be done) then use as follow:

Identify a subtitle(s) index(es) with wrong characters
Check "Debug Matrix" Option:
Reset and rerun OCR on the Language
Look for the subtitle indexes and in the second part of the sub identify the bad character and read out the matrix index (e.g. "c=4261")
Fix/Delete the character with this index in the matrix
Uncheck "Debug Matrix", rerun OCR, done...
Voilà!

PS: There is another not well known tool for subtitle around I found called SubtitleEdit: http://www.nikse.dk/SubtitleEdit

It has a nice feature in that in uses hunspell from Open Office to spellcheck subs and thus produces subs with a better overall quality than SubRip.
Unfortunately the process to OCR a sub takes a lot of time and there are still some bugs and handling of the tool, storage of saved OCR identifications etc is not very clear, that's why SubRip is still very actual to me!

Frogger13 · 29th June 2011, 17:18

Just bumping this thread as otherwise some may miss the update as it is not on official sites...

setarip_old · 29th June 2011, 19:25

@Frogger13

Hi!

Quote:

Links to unofficial version 1.50 beta 5

Quote:

Just bumping this thread as otherwise some may miss the update as it is not on official sites...

1) Why is it not an "official" beta?

2) Under whose authority are you providing links to this "unofficial" beta?

Superb · 29th June 2011, 20:33

Authority? Isn't it open-sourced? He provided the source w/ his changes, so I see no problem...

setarip_old · 30th June 2011, 04:50

Quote:

Isn't it open-sourced?

I don't see anything in this thread that explicitly states this.
If I've overlooked something to that effect, please advise...

thewebchat · 1st July 2011, 13:13

Don't be a dick. The project's hosted on SourceForge and GPL-licensed, which you could have discovered for yourself had you taken even the slightest effort to look (Google "SubRip"), but instead you decided to just passive-aggressively attack a contributor. No wonder this forum is dying when "veterans" act like douchebags to those trying to contribute. Not to mention that you are the only person on this forum who seems to be so self-obsessed as to write every post in an obnoxious custom color.

Frogger13 · 1st July 2011, 20:44

Not to state that this version is named unofficial so there is NO arguing about original author(S)... But hey, maybe it's bad to spend time and enhance open-source GPL software for community, but then we shall all forget about open-source and kill Linux

StainlessS · 2nd July 2011, 18:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frogger13

You're welcome

PS: There is another not well known tool for subtitle around I found called SubtitleEdit: http://www.nikse.dk/SubtitleEdit

It has a nice feature in that in uses hunspell from Open Office to spellcheck subs and thus produces subs with a better overall quality than SubRip.
Unfortunately the process to OCR a sub takes a lot of time and there are still some bugs and handling of the tool, storage of saved OCR identifications etc is not very clear, that's why SubRip is still very actual to me!

I second that, SubtitleEdit is a great little prog and I do like the OCR, but it does seem to have difficulty with some subs, eg try
"The Hunt for Red October", fails badly on that whereas SubRip does a very good job (not sure, think I tried all three OCR options, all three failed badly [EDIT: Produced complete gibberish]).

Highly recommend SubtitleEdit, especially like the re-timing
options. I still have a lot to learn about SubTitleEdit but will
use it in addition to Subrip, not a replacement.

Thanks for the 5beta, just gonna check it out.

Nikse555 · 3rd July 2011, 12:12

Hi StainlessS!

The "ocr via image compare" is much improved in SE 3.2 beta 3: http://code.google.com/p/subtitleedit/downloads/list
Edit: Also a bug that could make scrambled images has been fixed

Does the "The Hunt for Red October" still fail badly?

StainlessS · 3rd July 2011, 17:52

@Nikse555

Was about to DL SE 3.2 Beta 2, and noticed that you have just updated to
Beta 3 (8 minutes previously), am downloading that and will check it out
with the said DVD. Will give result some time today.

Thanks for a great piece of kit, quite excellent, shall keep updated.

StainlessS · 4th July 2011, 00:20

@Nikse555

Have Re-Ripped the said DVD and also reinstalled v3.1 to retry. Could not get it to fail as
it did previously. (may have ripped disk slightly differently, duel Angle at movie beginning
+ other reasons why rip may have not been identical).
I have installed/overwritten the update for v3.2 Beta 3 and tried that, again no problem
encountered on any of the three OCR methods. Toggling "Use Custom Colors" does cause
the (all three) OCR to fail, with the same gibberish output as previous problem,
(example here: "7ff7 ©Ø1IIIIDOD Tz7m2@ z7m2@7 L,").
I'm pretty sure that the original failings came up with Inverse video, Black font with
white border, similar to the "Use Custom Colors" option box (I remember it was inverse
of Subrip display), I also am fairly sure I played with the Image Palette options without
any improvement, but it is several weeks since doing that original rip and I may not
be correct about everything.

Anyway, it is working fine for me now, and if it starts misbehaving I shall let you know
in the SubtitleEdit thread (when you've started one). I was about to search for the
SubtitleEdit thread when I found Frogger13's recommendation, I have since looked
and found there is not one. SubtitleEdit deserves a thread of it's own, dont hide
your bright light under a bushel.

30th April 2011, 09:35	#1 \| Link
Frogger13 Just another User Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 21	SubRip 1.50 Beta 5 (unofficial) As some might find this helpfull lets share it For all these with big character matrixes and some wrong character, here's a mod that will allow you to easily identify the bad characters in the Matrix entry and correct/delete them: Links to unofficial version 1.50 beta 5: Program: http://www.mediafire.com/?d3aa3rp4a43o0bm Code: http://www.mediafire.com/?epbh8ifhc8pwzvd Enjoy

30th April 2011, 20:34	#3 \| Link
Frogger13 Just another User Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 21	You're welcome The software is written in Pascal/Delphi and has a very "Guru" style coding (modules called "Unit 1, Unit 2" etc) both of which makes it very difficult to understand. But I guess the way this new feature works is more than enough to debug matrixes in a few seconds. If you find some characters to be wrong or mixed up betweet capital and normal size (not the problem when "i" and "I" get mixed up where "I" is recognized as an "l" where nothing ca be done) then use as follow: Identify a subtitle(s) index(es) with wrong characters Check "Debug Matrix" Option: Reset and rerun OCR on the Language Look for the subtitle indexes and in the second part of the sub identify the bad character and read out the matrix index (e.g. "c=4261") Fix/Delete the character with this index in the matrix Uncheck "Debug Matrix", rerun OCR, done... Voilà! PS: There is another not well known tool for subtitle around I found called SubtitleEdit: http://www.nikse.dk/SubtitleEdit It has a nice feature in that in uses hunspell from Open Office to spellcheck subs and thus produces subs with a better overall quality than SubRip. Unfortunately the process to OCR a sub takes a lot of time and there are still some bugs and handling of the tool, storage of saved OCR identifications etc is not very clear, that's why SubRip is still very actual to me! Last edited by Frogger13; 2nd June 2011 at 19:20.

3rd July 2011, 12:12	#11 \| Link
Nikse555 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Mars Posts: 413	Hi StainlessS! The "ocr via image compare" is much improved in SE 3.2 beta 3: http://code.google.com/p/subtitleedit/downloads/list Edit: Also a bug that could make scrambled images has been fixed Does the "The Hunt for Red October" still fail badly? Last edited by Nikse555; 3rd July 2011 at 17:50.

3rd July 2011, 17:52	#12 \| Link
StainlessS HeartlessS Usurer Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Over the rainbow Posts: 10,250	@Nikse555 Was about to DL SE 3.2 Beta 2, and noticed that you have just updated to Beta 3 (8 minutes previously), am downloading that and will check it out with the said DVD. Will give result some time today. Thanks for a great piece of kit, quite excellent, shall keep updated. __________________ I sometimes post sober. StainlessS@MediaFire ::: AND/OR ::: StainlessS@SendSpace "Some infinities are bigger than other infinities", but how many of them are infinitely bigger ???

4th July 2011, 00:20	#13 \| Link
StainlessS HeartlessS Usurer Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Over the rainbow Posts: 10,250	@Nikse555 Have Re-Ripped the said DVD and also reinstalled v3.1 to retry. Could not get it to fail as it did previously. (may have ripped disk slightly differently, duel Angle at movie beginning + other reasons why rip may have not been identical). I have installed/overwritten the update for v3.2 Beta 3 and tried that, again no problem encountered on any of the three OCR methods. Toggling "Use Custom Colors" does cause the (all three) OCR to fail, with the same gibberish output as previous problem, (example here: "7ff7 ©Ø1IIIIDOD Tz7m2@ z7m2@7 L,"). I'm pretty sure that the original failings came up with Inverse video, Black font with white border, similar to the "Use Custom Colors" option box (I remember it was inverse of Subrip display), I also am fairly sure I played with the Image Palette options without any improvement, but it is several weeks since doing that original rip and I may not be correct about everything. Anyway, it is working fine for me now, and if it starts misbehaving I shall let you know in the SubtitleEdit thread (when you've started one). I was about to search for the SubtitleEdit thread when I found Frogger13's recommendation, I have since looked and found there is not one. SubtitleEdit deserves a thread of it's own, dont hide your bright light under a bushel. __________________ I sometimes post sober. StainlessS@MediaFire ::: AND/OR ::: StainlessS@SendSpace "Some infinities are bigger than other infinities", but how many of them are infinitely bigger ???

30th April 2011, 19:16	#2 \| Link
GrofLuigi Member of a Library Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 463	That's just what I needed. I will try it soon, unfortunately it might not be very soon. GL

29th June 2011, 17:18	#4 \| Link
Frogger13 Just another User Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 21	Just bumping this thread as otherwise some may miss the update as it is not on official sites...

29th June 2011, 20:33	#6 \| Link
Superb Registered User Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 364	Authority? Isn't it open-sourced? He provided the source w/ his changes, so I see no problem...

1st July 2011, 13:13	#8 \| Link
thewebchat Advanced Blogging Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 483	Don't be a dick. The project's hosted on SourceForge and GPL-licensed, which you could have discovered for yourself had you taken even the slightest effort to look (Google "SubRip"), but instead you decided to just passive-aggressively attack a contributor. No wonder this forum is dying when "veterans" act like douchebags to those trying to contribute. Not to mention that you are the only person on this forum who seems to be so self-obsessed as to write every post in an obnoxious custom color.

1st July 2011, 20:44	#9 \| Link
Frogger13 Just another User Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 21	Not to state that this version is named unofficial so there is NO arguing about original author(S)... But hey, maybe it's bad to spend time and enhance open-source GPL software for community, but then we shall all forget about open-source and kill Linux