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Old 21st April 2009, 00:38   #1  |  Link
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Subtitles streams greater than #31

I have found a problem. My Disc "The Mummy" (region b) has 68 subtitles, only the first 31 are listed by tsmuxer and other demuxers. If you put the disc in a player or software player there are 65, I need to force an English subtitle that is near the highest, stream #64 in fact.

Because the highest subtitle stream is expected to be #31 on tsmuxer and others, higher number streams (above #31) are not even listed or copied onto the hard drive so I cant force or even see it of course.

Can anybody help.

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If you use mediainfo with such m2ts file do you see Text streams with IDs ~4670 (0x123E) (for 62nd language for example)?
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Old 21st April 2009, 10:53   #3  |  Link
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Hi Deank

I havnt got media info, have you a link

In fact only 2 English subs are shown and there are in fact 6. The other 4 are numbers 33rd in list, 44th, 53rd, 64th. There are 68 subtitle streams in total.

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media info

Have downloaded media info, its says 32 subtitle streams.

Perhaps the spec is not 32 sub tracks max, perhaps it is 128 or 256 (00-FF).

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Check the original Blu-ray AUXDATA folder for *.otf files. It is possible that some of the subtitle tracks you don't 'see' are Text stream subtitles, not PGs. Also - if there is a chance - can you send me your mpls file?
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There are 7 .otf files, still not enough to explain 68 tracks, and they seem to be font files. Are you sure the spec couldnt be (00-FF) for sub tracks.
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Yes, they are font files and if you send me the mpls file of the movie I'll tell you more... 32 for PG subtitles and the other can be Text subtitles... Yes, PGS+TEXT+PIP_PGs can be a total of 255 but PGS alone should be max of 32.

You can also try to run eac3to agains the mpls file and see what will it say.
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How do I send you the file, do I send it as an attachment on public posts, cant see anyway of doing it on private message
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Yes, you have 36 TEXT subtitles and 32 PGS = total of 68...

tsMuxeR currently does not support (demuxing of) TEXT subtitles (0x92) and Interactive Graphics (0x91) streams... only PGS subtitles (Presentation Graphics) 0x90.

Still - you have 2 PGs for English. Can't you use these? Some players do not support Text subtitles - just be advised.

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Hi Dean

Thanks for that.
No I cant use the other subs, the sub I want is needed and is forced on on the blu ray disc because it is needed to make sense of some parts of the film including the place names.

Is there any way of inserting the txt sub i need.
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Forgot to ask you, is there a difference between un-ticking an item in tsmuxer and removing it, does removing it give up more space than un-ticking
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if you're asking about tsmuxerGUI... unticking means "do not include in final mux"... so it save space
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Hi Dean

yes I realise that but you can also click the REMOVE button, this totaly removes it from the list, whats the difference thats what I meant
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Did no one find a solution?
I have the same Problem like rotty with mummy as blu-ray.
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The author of tsMuxeR posted that text subtitles are supported in one of the latest versions (1.10.xxx).
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The author of tsMuxeR posted that text subtitles are supported in one of the latest versions (1.10.xxx).
where can I find that version? I only found v1.8.8b here in doom9 forum and that version does not detect those streams.

Thanks in advance.
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Just look around...

Here...
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Hi,

I tested today Tsmuxer 1.10.1b, but also this versions failed to detect the forced sub streams.
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Old 5th May 2009, 23:03   #20  |  Link
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I can confirm, I have tried tsmuxer version 1.10.1 and only the first 32 subtitles are seen (#0-#31) of the 68 subtitles, none of the txt subs are seen. This is on the movie "The Mummy" (Region B).
The forced English subtitle (sub number 65) is of course not even seen.
When you load the stream into tsmuxer, you get the messsage that some items have not been recognised and therefore ignored, i guess these are the txt subtitles

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