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Old 12th May 2012, 06:10   #15081  |  Link
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I know this is gonna sound weird, but hear me out. I know we can convert the DTS streams to AC3 and whatnot. Do we have options to convert to PCM? I've converted my audio to PCM and when i mux back into my m2ts file, the audio doesn't play. I know there's more to it, changing mpls files or whatever, just looking for some help.
Not sure why you'd want to convert DTS to WAV? The WAV couldn't sound any better than DTS (since it would be derived from DTS) -- so why make it bigger?
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Old 12th May 2012, 06:28   #15082  |  Link
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Sometimes converting to other formats is beneficial. Take Nero Vision (9)for instance. It doesn't like MKV files. But MKV2VOB can output to AVCHD/M2TS without encoding(use it for inserting Black bars). Apparently the program need only change a few bits of data OGG audio or FLAC isn't very common. But MP3 and Wav are Perhaps this is a bad example though. I certainly have no current need to convert DTS to WAV.
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Old 12th May 2012, 11:43   #15083  |  Link
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Just trying to figure something out.

So I've taken my PCM file, and muxed back into a new m2ts. I've replaced the m2ts file in my bd structure with this new file, as well as the cpli file that was created.

Still no audio. Am I missing something else?
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Both the MPLS file and the CLPI reference the type of audio in the M2TS file. In fact, its possible that more than one MPLS could do so.
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I usually do 1-pass CRF predictive encoding with good results. While in very most cases of single-segment sources the prediction steps look "reasonable" and the target size is met with good accuracy, I run into a couple of problems with segmented sources. For most of the segments -- even for the short ones of 1000...5000 frames -- the CRF prediction process looks reasonable (5 .... 10 steps) resulting in final CRF values around 18. However, for some segments the final CRF value is obtained in 1 single step producing IMO "skewed" final CRF values. Examples:

- [11:49:12] Processing: VID_00459 (5 of 23)
- [11:49:12] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00459]
- [11:49:29] Reencoding video [VID_00459]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 2'798 frames
- Convert: 1280x720, 23.976fps, 2'798 frames
- [11:49:29] Performing CRF Prediction...
- Analyzing 19.00 [34.50]
- [11:49:41] Encoding using constant rate factor.

- [12:46:31] Processing: VID_00465 (11 of 23)
- [12:46:31] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00465]
- [12:46:52] Reencoding video [VID_00465]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 3'563 frames
- Convert: 1280x720, 23.976fps, 3'563 frames
- [12:46:53] Performing CRF Prediction...
- Analyzing 19.27 [14.63]
- [12:47:04] Encoding using constant rate factor.

- [14:11:52] Processing: VID_00473 (19 of 23)
- [14:11:52] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00473]
- [14:12:21] Reencoding video [VID_00473]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 5'240 frames
- Convert: 1280x720, 23.976fps, 5'240 frames
- [14:12:21] Performing CRF Prediction...
- Analyzing 19.15 [14.58]
- [14:12:35] Encoding using constant rate factor.

I played with SAMPLE_GROUP and SAMPLE_SIZE but still get these 1-step predictions for some of the segments.

Are these skewed single-step predictions possibly a bug in the algorithm (early termination of the prediction cycle?)
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Old 12th May 2012, 14:13   #15086  |  Link
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Hmmm... not sure how that could happen. It looks like it gets close to the target size with the first CRF, and does one more tweak before encoding -- which for some reason swings it way off-kilter. I'll take a look at it.
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Old 12th May 2012, 15:56   #15087  |  Link
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Both the MPLS file and the CLPI reference the type of audio in the M2TS file. In fact, its possible that more than one MPLS could do so.
Ok when i load the MPLS in BDInfo, it shows the proper audio LPCM audio.

Any other ideas on how i can acomplish this? really appreciate it.
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Old 12th May 2012, 16:21   #15088  |  Link
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Ok when i load the MPLS in BDInfo, it shows the proper audio LPCM audio.

Any other ideas on how i can acomplish this? really appreciate it.
What are you using to play it back? If you're trying to play it on your PC, you may want to check the FFDSHOW Audio Decoder Configuration and make sure "Uncompressed" audio is set to "All Supported".
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Old 12th May 2012, 16:34   #15089  |  Link
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What are you using to play it back? If you're trying to play it on your PC, you may want to check the FFDSHOW Audio Decoder Configuration and make sure "Uncompressed" audio is set to "All Supported".
On PowerDVD and PS3 it's showing no audio stream at all. When I use Total Media Theatre, it's showing up as expected...

PS3 is in my intended player of course.
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Old 12th May 2012, 18:37   #15090  |  Link
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bug Problem

Using BD-RBv04009 everything seems to go fine during reading and compression, when ImgBurn (V2.0.7.0) burns the disc, it only burns 50% of the movie. Did not encounter this problem with V04008. Any suggestions? Thanks!!
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Old 12th May 2012, 20:36   #15091  |  Link
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Using BD-RBv04009 everything seems to go fine during reading and compression, when ImgBurn (V2.0.7.0) burns the disc, it only burns 50% of the movie. Did not encounter this problem with V04008. Any suggestions? Thanks!!
Gotta' be something else... BD-RB hasn't changed in that area in a long, long time -- and frankly, it does nothing but wait for ImgBurn to complete anyway.
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Old 12th May 2012, 22:47   #15092  |  Link
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BD-RBv04008 was superceeded by BD-RBv04009 recently. Using V09, everything seems to go fine during reading and compression, when ImgBurn (V2.0.7.0) burns the disc, it only burns 50% of the movie. I am using a new clean copy of imgburn 2570 and the subprograms with the suggested changes. Still doesn't work. RD-RB say to set MPG2 in Video Decoder Configuration in FFDSHOW to "enabled" but "enabled" is not an option. The options are "libavcodec", "libmpeg2" and "disabled". As I mentioned, the only change made was from v04008 to v04009. I'm using a new copy of RD-RB v04009 as well. Is there any way I can go back to RD-RB V04008? When I try to use it I receive a message indicating that v04008 is gone and I must us V04009.
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Old 12th May 2012, 23:11   #15093  |  Link
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Why don't you just have BDRB rebuild the movie and stop there. Then launch ImgBurn yourself, manually, and try burning it.
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Old 12th May 2012, 23:29   #15094  |  Link
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@ phoskins RE: ImgBurn (V2.0.7.0) burns the disc, it only burns 50% of the movie.

Have you even looked at the finished rebuild to see if it indeed has the complete movie??? Thats the place I would look at first instead of thinking ImgBurn lost 50% of what was being burned.
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Old 12th May 2012, 23:30   #15095  |  Link
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@jdobbs

The reason i'm doing this is because i'm trying to backup my cinavia title of Zookeeper. Kids keep scratching it, and i want one that will play in the PS3. So i'm using this to do it:

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.ph...33#post1468333

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I am the author of that program.
It doesn't convert/transcode to PCM, it does SPDIF conversion.
The PS3 "thinks" its playing a PCM, but really its bitstreaming a DTS to the amp.
Source code
http://www.3r1c.eu/mkv2vob/dtsinpcm.c
I can assure you it does work.

This particular method may not be very useful for anydvd though, it only works on ps3 and requires an external DTS amp, otherwise you just get static.
Basically it does what he says, takes the DTS and fools the PS3 into thinking it's PCM and cinavia doesn't kick in. I've compiled his code, and managed to get a PCM track of my movie.

So i'm just wanting to change my bluray output from having DTS-HD or AC3 and making it PCM instead. Not working though.

Thanks in advance for your help!
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Old 13th May 2012, 00:12   #15096  |  Link
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Man! Sony just keeps shooting themselves in the foot with all this crap, it's hard to see how they can justify doing this to all the PS3 owners that just want to watch a bluray. I hope someone can get them to see what a mistake it is to treat their paying customers like this, and watch the only product they are making money on become irrelevant. On another note, I usually keep the HD Audio when I'm converting to a BD if it only uses like 3 or 4 gigs of space, but on this title there is like 9 episodes with TRUE-HD audio that adds up to quite a bit of audio space on a 3 plus hour disk. I took the checks out of all the keep HD audio settings and the log show that BD_RB is keeping only the HD Core, but the finished BD has only 484 bit audio instead of the 640 I was expecting. Is there a setting somewhere I'm missing??? thanks, worknstiff
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I hear you. Just seems odd that the only thing that I can see that changed was going from v04008 to v04009. I'll play with it to see if I can get it to work. Thank you sir!
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Old 15th May 2012, 18:44   #15098  |  Link
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BD to MKV

Last couple of days i'm using the Alternate Movie-Only Output, MKV Container 1920x1080, 640 Kbs DD 5.1.
Why? My Dune H1 handles these MKV files better than BD files, both made with BD Rebuilder. Trying out the CRF mode in different settings (CRF 21, 20, 19). What strikes me is the big difference between CRF 20 and 19, both file size and bitrate.
When i convert "When We Need To Talk About Kevin" with CRF 20 i get a file size of 9.24GB with a maximum bit rate of 15 Mbps, then i used CRF 19: file size = 12GB, maximum bit rate = 30 Mbps. When i open the files with MediaInfo max. birate is set to this values (vbv_maxrate=15000 or 30000) in the encoding settings. I'm not specialised in these things but it seems more logical to me: CRF 21 vbv_maxrate=15000, CRF 20 vbv_maxrate=20000, ...
My question: can i set it manual to an higher max bitrate? (for example CRF 20 with vbv_maxrate=20000).
If so, i can try it out to see there's a noticeable better image quality.

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Wrong thread - moved it

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Old 15th May 2012, 20:32   #15100  |  Link
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jdobbs,

First of all, Thank you for this great program! My settings are full backup, high quality two pass encoding, with x264's internal LAVF for decoding checked and DTSX_ENABLE=1 in my BDREBUILDER.INI. I only use the programs that you tell me to use on the first page. My system is windows 7 x64 with 8 gigs of memory.



I'm backing up the mummy trilogy. It seems that they all have pip. Here's my list of problems that maybe you can help me fix:

Mummy 1:Original PIP is 480p but BDRebuilder encodes as 480i? There is no sound from the BDRebuilder PIP.

Original Disc:VIDEO:

Codec Bitrate Description
----- ------- -----------
VC-1 Video 0 kbps 1080p / 23.976 fps / 16:9 / Advanced Profile 3
VC-1 Video 0 kbps 480p / 23.976 fps / 4:3 / Advanced Profile 2

AUDIO:

Codec Language Bitrate Description
----- -------- ------- -----------
DTS-HD Master Audio English 0 kbps 5.1 / 48 kHz / 24-bit (DTS Core: 5.1 / 48 kHz / 1509 kbps / 24-bit)
DTS Audio Portuguese 768 kbps 5.1 / 48 kHz / 768 kbps / 24-bit
DTS Audio Czech 768 kbps 5.1 / 48 kHz / 768 kbps / 24-bit
DTS Audio Hungarian 768 kbps 5.1 / 48 kHz / 768 kbps / 24-bit
DTS Audio Spanish 768 kbps 5.1 / 48 kHz / 768 kbps / 24-bit
DTS Audio Polish 768 kbps 5.1 / 48 kHz / 768 kbps / 24-bit
Dolby Digital Audio Russian 448 kbps 2.0 / 48 kHz / 448 kbps / DN -4dB / Dolby Surround
Dolby Digital Audio Thai 448 kbps 2.0 / 48 kHz / 448 kbps / DN -4dB / Dolby Surround
DTS Express English 192 kbps 2.0 / 48 kHz / 192 kbps / 24-bit

BDRebuilder: VIDEO:

Codec Bitrate Description
----- ------- -----------
MPEG-4 AVC Video 0 kbps 1080p / 23.976 fps / 16:9 / High Profile 4.1
MPEG-4 AVC Video 0 kbps 480i / 23.976 fps / 4:3 / Main Profile 3.2

AUDIO:

Codec Language Bitrate Description
----- -------- ------- -----------
DTS-HD Master Audio English 0 kbps 5.1 / 48 kHz / 24-bit (DTS Core: 5.1 / 48 kHz / 1509 kbps / 24-bit)
DTS Express English 192 kbps 2.0 / 48 kHz / 192 kbps / 24-bit


Mummy 2:Original PIP is 480p but BDRebuilder encodes as 480i? There is no sound from the BDRebuilder PIP.

Original Disc:
VIDEO:

Codec Bitrate Description
----- ------- -----------
VC-1 Video 0 kbps 1080p / 23.976 fps / 16:9 / Advanced Profile 3
VC-1 Video 0 kbps 480p / 23.976 fps / 4:3 / Advanced Profile 2

AUDIO:

Codec Language Bitrate Description
----- -------- ------- -----------
DTS-HD Master Audio English 0 kbps 5.1 / 48 kHz / 24-bit (DTS Core: 5.1 / 48 kHz / 1509 kbps / 24-bit)
Dolby Digital Audio Portuguese 448 kbps 5.1 / 48 kHz / 448 kbps / DN -4dB
Dolby Digital Audio Czech 448 kbps 5.1 / 48 kHz / 448 kbps / DN -4dB
Dolby Digital Audio Hungarian 448 kbps 5.1 / 48 kHz / 448 kbps / DN -4dB
Dolby Digital Audio Spanish 448 kbps 5.1 / 48 kHz / 448 kbps / DN -4dB
Dolby Digital Audio Polish 448 kbps 5.1 / 48 kHz / 448 kbps / DN -4dB
Dolby Digital Audio Russian 448 kbps 5.1 / 48 kHz / 448 kbps / DN -4dB
DTS Express English 192 kbps 2.0 / 48 kHz / 192 kbps / 24-bit
Dolby Digital Audio Thai 192 kbps 2.0 / 48 kHz / 192 kbps / DN -4dB / Dolby Surround
Dolby Digital Audio English 192 kbps 2.0 / 48 kHz / 192 kbps / DN -4dB / Dolby Surround

BDRebuilder:
VIDEO:

Codec Bitrate Description
----- ------- -----------
MPEG-4 AVC Video 0 kbps 1080p / 23.976 fps / 16:9 / High Profile 4.1
MPEG-4 AVC Video 0 kbps 480i / 23.976 fps / 4:3 / Main Profile 4.1

AUDIO:

Codec Language Bitrate Description
----- -------- ------- -----------
DTS-HD Master Audio English 0 kbps 5.1 / 48 kHz / 24-bit (DTS Core: 5.1 / 48 kHz / 1509 kbps / 24-bit)
Dolby Digital Audio English 192 kbps 2.0 / 48 kHz / 192 kbps / DN -4dB / Dolby Surround


Mummy 3:There is no sound from either PIP but the BDrebuilder PIP encode is in 480p.

Original Disc:
VIDEO:

Codec Bitrate Description
----- ------- -----------
MPEG-4 AVC Video 0 kbps 1080p / 23.976 fps / 16:9 / High Profile 4.1
MPEG-4 AVC Video 0 kbps 480p / 23.976 fps / 16:9 / High Profile 3.2
MPEG-4 AVC Video 0 kbps 480p / 23.976 fps / 16:9 / High Profile 3.2

AUDIO:

Codec Language Bitrate Description
----- -------- ------- -----------
DTS-HD Master Audio English 0 kbps 5.1 / 48 kHz / 24-bit (DTS Core: 5.1 / 48 kHz / 1509 kbps / 24-bit)
Dolby Digital Audio Portuguese 384 kbps 5.1 / 48 kHz / 384 kbps / DN -4dB
Dolby Digital Audio Czech 448 kbps 5.1 / 48 kHz / 448 kbps / DN -4dB
Dolby Digital Audio Hungarian 448 kbps 5.1 / 48 kHz / 448 kbps / DN -4dB
Dolby Digital Audio Spanish 448 kbps 5.1 / 48 kHz / 448 kbps / DN -4dB
Dolby Digital Audio Polish 448 kbps 5.1 / 48 kHz / 448 kbps / DN -4dB
Dolby Digital Audio Russian 448 kbps 5.1 / 48 kHz / 448 kbps / DN -4dB
Dolby Digital Audio Thai 448 kbps 5.1 / 48 kHz / 448 kbps / DN -4dB
Dolby Digital Audio English 192 kbps 2.0 / 48 kHz / 192 kbps / DN -4dB / Dolby Surround
DTS Express English 192 kbps 2.0 / 48 kHz / 192 kbps / 24-bit
DTS Express English 192 kbps 2.0 / 48 kHz / 192 kbps / 24-bit

BDRebuilder:
VIDEO:

Codec Bitrate Description
----- ------- -----------
MPEG-4 AVC Video 0 kbps 1080p / 23.976 fps / 16:9 / High Profile 4.1
MPEG-4 AVC Video 0 kbps 480p / 23.976 fps / 16:9 / Main Profile 3.2
MPEG-4 AVC Video 0 kbps 480p / 23.976 fps / 16:9 / Main Profile 3.2

AUDIO:

Codec Language Bitrate Description
----- -------- ------- -----------
DTS-HD Master Audio English 0 kbps 5.1 / 48 kHz / 24-bit (DTS Core: 5.1 / 48 kHz / 1509 kbps / 24-bit)
Dolby Digital Audio English 192 kbps 2.0 / 48 kHz / 192 kbps / DN -4dB / Dolby Surround
DTS Express English 192 kbps 2.0 / 48 kHz / 192 kbps / 24-bit
DTS Express English 192 kbps 2.0 / 48 kHz / 192 kbps / 24-bit

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