BD Rebuilder Beta - Bug Reports Only

[jdobbs]

CURRENT VERSION 0.31.02 (November 17th, 2009)

Ok. Although I don't think it's at a stable point yet, I've decided to release BD Rebuilder for some initial beta testing. Before you download it and decide to use it -- remember one thing. This is BETA SOFTWARE. It has bugs. It is NOT ready for production encoding. IMPORTANT NOTE: If you don't like it, don't use it... it is not being posted for opinions or comments, there is plenty of time for that later (after it reaches a level of stability that isn't there now). I am posting it only for testing to see where the majority of the bugs are.

If you decide to download and test -- please post any errors you find in this thread. Don't push bug resolution or keep asking for a fix. I will get to the reported bugs, but only when I can find the time. I'm pretty busy with my real life right now.

Please do not post any non-bug-related messages in this thread. I'd like to reserve it for bug reports only. If you want to start a "I wish" or "let's debate something" discussion, let's put it somewhere else, ok? If posting a bug, please identify your burner and playback device.

IF BD-RB DOESN'T WORK FOR YOU. JUST REPORT IT AS A BUG. Please leave out the "I wasted 16 hours of my time" commentary. If you don't know the risk of testing a beta you shouldn't be downloading this software.

BD Rebuilder has NOT BEEN MODIFIED/TESTED FOR USE ON WINDOWS 7. If you run into issues with Windows 7, please don't post bug reports. It will be updated, but not until the final version of Windows 7 is released in October 2009.

You can download the BD-RB beta from this link: BD-RB v0.31.02 (beta).

In order to make this beta version work, you have to first install some other packages. Here's what you need to do:

1. Download and install the latest FFDSHOW and the Matroska Splitter. They are required for BD-RB to work and are free. After the install, run "Video Decoder Configuration" for FFDSHOW from the "START/Programs" menu, and make sure MPEG2 decoding is enabled.
2. Download and install AVISYNTH 2.57 or above. If you are a DVD-RB user, it is compatible, so no worry. It is required for BD Rebuilder to work. AVISYNTH v2.57 can be downloaded from http://www.jdobbs.net/freeware/Avisynth_257.exe or from http://www.avisynth.org.
3. Unzip the BD-RB.zip file. Put it in a directory of its own. I'd recommend putting it somewhere other than "C:\Program Files" until it has been tested more (because of Vista's virtualization).
4. It is highly recommended that you also download and install IMGBURN (see http://www.imgburn.com) on your system. You can actually burn with any software you desire (that supports UDF 2.50), but BD-RB recognizes IMGBURN and does the burn for you.
5. Read the LICENSE.TXT file found in the BD-RB directory. If you don't agree with the license. Don't use it.
6. Please don't post questions or comments on DECRYPTION or ripping methods. I have to assume you know how to do that or you wouldn't be a beta tester. I also make the assumption that you and will comply with applicable laws... I don't want to get in the middle of any of that.
7. If you decide to write to dual layer DVDs (BD-9/DVD-9), use ONLY HIGH QUALITY DUAL LAYER DISCS. I have found numerous cases where the same image works flawlessly with a quality (e.g. Verbatim) disc and fails (hangs) on a cheap one.
8. Recommended: Download and install WMV11 from Microsoft, and set VC-1 decoding to "disabled" in FFDSHOW (allowing the WMV11 codec to be used). This seems to be the codec with the fewest problem on VC-1.
9. Please DO NOT replace the versions of software included in the BD-RB ZIP with other versions (e.g. replacing the 32 bit X264 with a 64 bit version). In doing so you are very likely creating a self-inflicted injury that will not be addressed as a bug.

How to use it:

1. Please note: This is NOT A DECRYPTER. It is a BD Reencoder and reauthoring package. If you are planning to back up discs that are encoded or copy protected using other software (such as AnyDVD) -- that is a decision you are making independently of BD-RB and it is assumed you are staying within the laws applicable to you. BD-RB is meant as a means of backing up copies of discs THAT YOU OWN. It is NOT meant to be used as a means for copyright infringement.

2. Either copy the disc to be backed up to your hard drive or read it from the original. You will find that BD Rebuilder will work faster from a hard drive.

3. Create a working directory somewhere in your file structure. I use a folder called "D:\WORKING".

4. Run BD Rebuilder. Select the source directory (the one containing the BDMV folder). Also select the WORKING directory.

5. Click on "BACKUP". Then find something else to do... because this is going to TAKE A LONG TIME. My system usually backs up a disc in about 12-16 hours. So you may want to consider running it overnight. Your experience will differ depending upon your computer's CPU and disc speeds. Why does it take so long? Because you are encoding at very high resolutions -- and they require a lot of work. Also, BD-RB hasn't been optimized for speed as yet... but in truth the real speed improvements will have to come with updates to X264 and faster processors.

6. After running you will find a directory in the WORKING directory that has been created. It will be named based upon the source. You must write this directory to a blank disc using UDF 2.50 format. If you have IMGBURN installed on your system, you can burn it from the FILE menu of BD-RB. Alternatively you can select "Auto-burn to Disc" from the SETTINGS/OPTIONS menu (and IMGBURN is installed on your system) and the disc will be burned automatically by BD-RB.

7. How good will it look? My experience is that rebuilding to a dual-layer DVD+R results in a backup that is virtually indistinguishable to the original. DVD-5's will work fine for movie-only encodes... and some full discs. But beauty is in the eye of the beholder and is very subjective. My advice is to try it and see.

I have done only limited testing on this program and all in a fairly pristine environment. My playback tests have all been on my SONY BDP-301S standalone unit and a 50" SONY LCD television. I burn using IMGBURN on a SONY BWU-200S Internal BD Burner (which also supports DVD+-R).


Happy Holidays -- and enjoy!

[Easy123]

THX! First BD ist running through. Will give Feedback when it´s finished..

[DVD Maniac]

First try not working, it keeps reporting "Retry attempts failed" for each .m2ts file it tries to process..... Loaded all the codecs so not sure whats wrong here?

[Dark Shikari]

It seems odd that the only encoding option exposed directly to the user--of all options--is trellis, despite it being one of the rather less important options both quality or speed-wise...

x264 - core 65 r1057 5f8a149 - H.264/MPEG-4 AVC codec - Copyleft 2003-2008 - htt
p://www.videolan.org/x264.html - options: cabac=1 ref=1 deblock=1:0:0 analyse=0x
1:0x111 me=hex subme=6 psy_rd=1.0:0.0 mixed_ref=0 me_range=16 chroma_me=1 trelli
s=0 8x8dct=0 cqm=0 deadzone=21,11 chroma_qp_offset=-2 threads=3 nr=0 decimate=1
mbaff=0 bframes=3 b_pyramid=0 b_adapt=1 b_bias=0 direct=1 wpredb=0 keyint=24 key
int_min=1 scenecut=40(pre) rc=crf crf=28.0 qcomp=0.60 qpmin=10 qpmax=51 qpstep=4
vbv_maxrate=17500 vbv_bufsize=14500 ip_ratio=1.40 pb_ratio=1.30 aq=1:1.00

Oh dear... you could at least enable 8x8dct you know... or is this intended to be a first-pass? Also, CRF 28? That's rather low quality... and for a target-filesize encode (e.g. BD-9), shouldn't you be using bitrate mode?

[DVD Maniac]

Originally Posted by DVD Maniac

First try not working, it keeps reporting "Retry attempts failed" for each .m2ts file it tries to process..... Loaded all the codecs so not sure whats wrong here?

Just to add i'm running the Vista x64 codecs pack which has ffdshow and matroska incliuded. I assume BD rebuilder checks to see if both are present before even running? I couldn't see anything in the config page to point to the right path (as per DVD Rebuilder?)

[jdobbs]

Originally Posted by jdobbs

Please do not post any non-bug-related messages in this thread. I'd like to reserve it for bug reports only. If you want to start a "I wish" or "let's debate something" discussion, let's put it somewhere else, ok? If posting a bug, please identify your burner and playback device.

I guess it was pissing in the wind to post this, eh?

[jdobbs]

Originally Posted by DVD Maniac

Just to add i'm running the Vista x64 codecs pack which has ffdshow and matroska incliuded. I assume BD rebuilder checks to see if both are present before even running? I couldn't see anything in the config page to point to the right path (as per DVD Rebuilder?)

Try opening the AVS file with Media Player -- you are probably getting an error in the decode. My guess is that you either don't have the codecs installed or enabled.

[jdobbs]

Originally Posted by Dark Shikari

Oh dear... you could at least enable 8x8dct you know... or is this intended to be a first-pass? Also, CRF 28? That's rather low quality... and for a target-filesize encode (e.g. BD-9), shouldn't you be using bitrate mode?

How about we make it work first, and then worry about the settings? That's the incredibly easy part.

The first pass is for speed -- the second pass is for quality. The exception would be if you selected "Quicker encode for extras" -- then a CRF pass is done on the extras. It is the same as saying "don't spend a lot of time on the extras, they aren't that important." If you're seeing a CRF pass -- I would assume you set that option. The CRF is set based upon what it will take to fit on the selected output.

How about trying it once before the criticism, eh? My concern in this beta is to see what works and what doesn't.

[jdobbs]

Originally Posted by DVD Maniac

Just to add i'm running the Vista x64 codecs pack which has ffdshow and matroska incliuded. I assume BD rebuilder checks to see if both are present before even running? I couldn't see anything in the config page to point to the right path (as per DVD Rebuilder?)

It makes the assumption you have the codecs installed for FFDSHOW and MATROSKA. If you don't -- it will fail (just as I said in the first post of this thread).

[Dark Shikari]

Originally Posted by jdobbs

How about trying it once before the criticism, eh?

Criticism? This is what I had to say after trying it once...

[vwpassion]

Running a full-backup right now, results tomorrow... But one thing i already noticed is that bd-rb gets it wrong most of the time when selecting "movie only backup". Instead of the main movie it selects an extra feature.

[jdobbs]

Criticism? This is what I had to say after trying it once...

Sigh... so you're telling me you've already done a complete BD, right? You've tested it and it was done with CRF, right?

Sorry -- but that is B.S. It can't do a main movie in CRF, as it is disabled. You're making assumptions after running a couple of extras through -- and you're doing that after setting the option to do "Quicker encodes for extras"

That's what I mean by "trying it once."

[jdobbs]

Originally Posted by vwpassion

Running a full-backup right now, results tomorrow... But one thing i already noticed is that bd-rb gets it wrong most of the time when selecting "movie only backup". Instead of the main movie it selects an extra feature.

Is it a movie or a series disc. BD-RB selects the playlist that is longest... I guess it's possible that there may be something that is looping through the same M2TS files and appears to be longer... I ran into that once. What disc are you backup up?

[vwpassion]

All the discs I've tried were movies. Though I first used the options "encoder settings -> fair quality" and "quicker encode for extras". Actually all movies failed with this combination of settings, aborting right at the start with the error ""Retry attempts failed". I'll try again once this full backup is finally done (75% right now) and give you the titles of the movies and error logs.

[DVD Maniac]

Originally Posted by jdobbs

Try opening the AVS file with Media Player -- you are probably getting an error in the decode. My guess is that you either don't have the codecs installed or enabled.

The AVS files are playing the source m2ts files just fine so not sure what that means? I have uninstalled all my codecs and manually installed your stated ones manually to be sure - same problem - encode is failing with a timeout message previously stated.

[MikeyBK]

I'm also getting an error out... screenshots below

I'm probably not setting ffdshow up properly?

[vwpassion]

First full backup just finished, unfortunately with an error, just after bd-rb was done with the main movie. Here is the log:

[19:00:47] BD Rebuilder v0.17.9 (beta)
  - Input BD size: 21,02 GB
  - Approximate total content: [02:02:30.644]
  - Target BD size: 7,72 GB
[19:00:47] PHASE ONE, Encoding
 - [19:00:49] Collecting video information [00001]
   - Video: 1920x1080, 23,976fps
   - Bitrate: 3.359 Kbs
 - [19:00:50] Reencoding: VID_00001, Pass 1 of 2
 - [19:01:29] Reencoding: VID_00001, Pass 2 of 2
 - [19:02:17] Video Encode complete
 - [19:02:17] Extracting/reencoding audio tracks
 - [19:02:18] Multiplexing M2TS
 - [19:08:22] Collecting video information [00003]
   - Video: 1920x1080, 23,976fps
   - Bitrate: 9.563 Kbs
 - [19:08:24] Reencoding: VID_00003, Pass 1 of 2
 - [20:27:32] Reencoding: VID_00003, Pass 2 of 2
 - [23:57:46] Video Encode complete
 - [23:57:46] Extracting/reencoding audio tracks
 - [00:00:01] Multiplexing M2TS
 - [00:00:05] Collecting video information [00004]
  - Error [01:-1] returned from encoder. Retrying.
  - Error [02:-1] returned from encoder. Retrying.
  - Error [03:-1] returned from encoder. Retrying.
  - Reached retry limit.  Aborting.
[00:00:18] - Failed video encode, aborted

It looked very promising, but then failed with one of the extras apparently. Disappointing, but hey, I realize its only a beta. Any thoughts jdobbs?

Oh yea, the movie is "You Kill Me" - Region B (German version).

[MikeyBK]

Also, I am getting the wrong m2ts for movie only as well. House Bunny, single m2ts for main movie, but chooses a 179 MB vid
screenshot attached

[Capsbackup]

Having a strange problem here. Full backup of Batman Begins, NTSC. Runs thru the first 88 M2TS's fine, but on the 89th, something happens and it try's to start a windows installer for Roxio Creator Premier Blu-ray 10. I canceled, deleted all files in working directory, rebooted and tryed again. Same results. After canceling windows installer, it then skips file and says "Reached retry limit. Aborting." Then continues on to the next M2TS. Partial log attached, since I think I should cancel rather than continue on for hours.
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[10:23:00] BD Rebuilder v0.17.9 (beta)
- Input BD size: 36.72 GB
- Approximate total content: [05:04:41.971]
- Target BD size: 7.72 GB
[10:23:00] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [10:23:07] Reencoding: VID_00114 (1 of 119)
- [10:24:10] Reencoding: VID_00014 (2 of 119)
- [10:25:24] Reencoding: VID_00050 (3 of 119)
- [10:25:42] Reencoding: VID_00004 (4 of 119)
- [10:26:00] Reencoding: VID_00005 (5 of 119)
- [10:26:18] Reencoding: VID_00006 (6 of 119)
- [10:26:36] Reencoding: VID_00007 (7 of 119)
- [10:26:55] Reencoding: VID_00008 (8 of 119)
- [10:27:12] Reencoding: VID_00009 (9 of 119)
- [10:27:30] Reencoding: VID_00010 (10 of 119)
- [10:27:48] Reencoding: VID_00011 (11 of 119)
- [10:28:08] Reencoding: VID_00012 (12 of 119)
- [10:28:26] Reencoding: VID_00019 (13 of 119)
- [10:28:44] Reencoding: VID_00028 (14 of 119)
- [10:29:02] Reencoding: VID_00029 (15 of 119)
- [10:29:20] Reencoding: VID_00030 (16 of 119)
- [10:29:37] Reencoding: VID_00031 (17 of 119)
- [10:29:56] Reencoding: VID_00032 (18 of 119)
- [10:30:13] Reencoding: VID_00033 (19 of 119)
- [10:30:31] Reencoding: VID_00034 (20 of 119)
- [10:30:49] Reencoding: VID_00035 (21 of 119)
- [10:31:07] Reencoding: VID_00036 (22 of 119)
- [10:31:24] Reencoding: VID_00037 (23 of 119)
- [10:31:43] Reencoding: VID_00038 (24 of 119)
- [10:32:01] Reencoding: VID_00039 (25 of 119)
- [10:32:19] Reencoding: VID_00040 (26 of 119)
- [10:32:38] Reencoding: VID_00041 (27 of 119)
- [10:32:55] Reencoding: VID_00042 (28 of 119)
- [10:33:14] Reencoding: VID_00043 (29 of 119)
- [10:33:32] Reencoding: VID_00044 (30 of 119)
- [10:33:50] Reencoding: VID_00045 (31 of 119)
- [10:34:08] Reencoding: VID_00046 (32 of 119)
- [10:34:26] Reencoding: VID_00047 (33 of 119)
- [10:34:44] Reencoding: VID_00048 (34 of 119)
- [10:35:02] Reencoding: VID_00049 (35 of 119)
- [10:35:20] Reencoding: VID_00051 (36 of 119)
- [10:35:39] Reencoding: VID_00052 (37 of 119)
- [10:35:57] Reencoding: VID_00053 (38 of 119)
- [10:36:15] Reencoding: VID_00054 (39 of 119)
- [10:36:35] Reencoding: VID_00055 (40 of 119)
- [10:36:54] Reencoding: VID_00056 (41 of 119)
- [10:37:12] Reencoding: VID_00057 (42 of 119)
- [10:37:29] Reencoding: VID_00058 (43 of 119)
- [10:37:47] Reencoding: VID_00059 (44 of 119)
- [10:38:05] Reencoding: VID_00060 (45 of 119)
- [10:38:24] Reencoding: VID_00061 (46 of 119)
- [10:38:41] Reencoding: VID_00062 (47 of 119)
- [10:38:58] Reencoding: VID_00063 (48 of 119)
- [10:39:17] Reencoding: VID_00064 (49 of 119)
- [10:39:34] Reencoding: VID_00065 (50 of 119)
- [10:39:52] Reencoding: VID_00066 (51 of 119)
- [10:40:09] Reencoding: VID_00067 (52 of 119)
- [10:40:27] Reencoding: VID_00068 (53 of 119)
- [10:40:45] Reencoding: VID_00069 (54 of 119)
- [10:41:03] Reencoding: VID_00070 (55 of 119)
- [10:41:21] Reencoding: VID_00071 (56 of 119)
- [10:41:38] Reencoding: VID_00072 (57 of 119)
- [10:41:55] Reencoding: VID_00073 (58 of 119)
- [10:42:14] Reencoding: VID_00074 (59 of 119)
- [10:42:32] Reencoding: VID_00075 (60 of 119)
- [10:42:49] Reencoding: VID_00076 (61 of 119)
- [10:43:07] Reencoding: VID_00077 (62 of 119)
- [10:43:25] Reencoding: VID_00078 (63 of 119)
- [10:43:43] Reencoding: VID_00079 (64 of 119)
- [10:44:01] Reencoding: VID_00080 (65 of 119)
- [10:44:19] Reencoding: VID_00115 (66 of 119)
- [10:44:37] Reencoding: VID_00116 (67 of 119)
- [10:45:36] Reencoding: VID_00081 (68 of 119)
- [10:45:57] Reencoding: VID_00122 (69 of 119)
- [10:46:20] Reencoding: VID_00121 (70 of 119)
- [10:46:41] Reencoding: VID_00117 (71 of 119)
- [10:48:19] Reencoding: VID_00091 (72 of 119)
- [10:50:14] Reencoding: VID_00088 (73 of 119)
- [10:52:26] Reencoding: VID_00087 (74 of 119)
- [10:54:33] Reencoding: VID_00090 (75 of 119)
- [10:56:26] Reencoding: VID_00086 (76 of 119)
- [10:58:39] Reencoding: VID_00089 (77 of 119)
- [11:00:43] Reencoding: VID_00096 (78 of 119)
- [11:02:54] Reencoding: VID_00095 (79 of 119)
- [11:05:19] Reencoding: VID_00094 (80 of 119)
- [11:07:49] Reencoding: VID_00111 (81 of 119)
- [11:10:16] Reencoding: VID_00110 (82 of 119)
- [11:12:55] Reencoding: VID_00109 (83 of 119)
- [11:15:42] Reencoding: VID_00098 (84 of 119)
- [11:18:24] Reencoding: VID_00097 (85 of 119)
- [11:21:11] Reencoding: VID_00083 (86 of 119)
- [11:23:35] Reencoding: VID_00082 (87 of 119)
- [11:26:06] Reencoding: VID_00112 (88 of 119)
- [14:19:44] Reencoding: VID_00020 (89 of 119)
- Reached retry limit. Aborting.
- [14:20:43] Reencoding: VID_00093 (90 of 119)
- [14:24:15] Reencoding: VID_00101 (91 of 119)
- [14:29:04] Reencoding: VID_00092 (92 of 119)
- [14:32:40] Reencoding: VID_00100 (93 of 119)
- [14:37:44] Reencoding: VID_00103 (94 of 119)
- [14:42:04] Reencoding: VID_00099 (95 of 119)
- [14:46:45] Reencoding: VID_00105 (96 of 119)

I then go into the working folder and try to open VID_00020.avs with MPC, and the Windows installer try's to install Roxio again. Strange!! Contents of this AVS is:
#Created by BD Rebuilder - v0.17.9 (beta)
DirectshowSource("G:\BATMAN_BEGINS\BDMV\STREAM\00020.m2ts", fps=29.97, audio=false)
LoadPlugin("C:\Users\Laptop\Desktop\DVD Tools\BD_Rebuilder\tools\decomb521.dll")
FieldDeinterlace(blend=false)
Let me know if I can provide any other details.

[vwpassion]

Just tried to process another disc: The Shawshank Redemption German Region B. Aborts straight away on the first m2ts which is the main movie m2ts.

[00:07:44] BD Rebuilder v0.17.9 (beta)
  - Input BD size: 38,17 GB
  - Approximate total content: [03:39:52.298]
  - Target BD size: 7,72 GB
[00:07:46] PHASE ONE, Encoding
 - [00:07:46] Collecting video information [00001]
  - Error [01:-1] returned from encoder. Retrying.
  - Error [02:-1] returned from encoder. Retrying.
  - Error [03:-1] returned from encoder. Retrying.
  - Reached retry limit.  Aborting.
 - [00:07:49]  VID_00001
   - Inconsistency detected in source.
   - Copying.  Possible small sizing issue.

x264 exits with the runtime error "76" and "path not found" (the dialogue box' title is OnePass264).

Also, if I chose "movie only backup" it wont decect the main movie, but instead 2 extra features VID5 and VID6, though the first playlist on the bluray is the main movie, so I assume this has to do with the looping you mentioned.

Edit: here's the avs script created by bd-rb:

#Created by BD Rebuilder - v0.17.9 (beta)
DirectshowSource("H:\BLURAY\SOURCES\DIE_VERURTEILTEN\BDMV\STREAM\00001.m2ts", fps=25, audio=false)
LoadPlugin("M:\ripping\BD Rebuilder\tools\decomb521.dll")
FieldDeinterlace(blend=false)

Can't open the avs with vdub either, i get the error "avisynth open failure: directshowsource: renderfile, the filter graph manager won't talk to me".