HD-DVD to Blu-Ray. GUIDE UPDATED!!

[glen8]

http://www.glenharrison.com/bluray

I have 'finally' got my new guide finished and uploaded

If anyone uses this guide elsewhere can they please credit both me and this site

Thanks!

[NOTE: This post has been editted so some of the comments below are now redundant as they would have been for the old outdated guide]

for posts regarding this guide see from 18th March 2008 onwards

[Atak_Snajpera]

step 5 can be replaced by muxing directly to 00000.m2ts into /BDMV/STREAM directory

Bluray Structure generated by Scenarist
http://www.mediafire.com/?a4mndhoyfdd

[rack04]

Maybe your title should read "HD-DVD (h.264 and DD+) to Blu-Ray. Working Guide :-)" because you don't address VC-1 and MLP.

[glen8]

Originally Posted by rack04

Maybe your title should read "HD-DVD (h.264 and DD+) to Blu-Ray. Working Guide :-)" because you don't address VC-1 and MLP.

True

I wasnt aware we had a problem with VC-1?

Just looking at getting DTS sorted altho I don't think there's much of a problem with that

[sugatam]

For VC1, step 3 should refer to vc1conv, right? Other than that, I think the guide is perfect for VC1

[glen8]

Thanks, and thanks for the positive PMs I have been sent.

I'm not an expert by any means but enjoy doing it. It makes me happy converting videos and learning new stuff

[musicman2311]

just did a 1 min test - looks great ! - thanks !!!!!

can it be that the only difference really is to enter 29.976
as framerate rather than 29.97 ???

anyway - 1 min clip looked fantastic - thanks from my side to the writers of these tools

[tyee]

Step 3 isn't necessary (for AVC/x.264) as tsmuxer has that "24/1001" option which is the same as 23.976fps. Anyway that's what I did.

Hey Glen8, does that tsmuxer, .ts file, playback in your computer media player perfect, like Media Player Classic or others you have on hand?

[glen8]

trust me guys, all of those steps are completly necessary. I have done further testing since writing that guide.

If I change the framerate anywhere else other than h264info I get av sync issues and the dreadded 5sec audio problem I listed in another thread.

These steps are the only way I have found after months of testing and using MANY different methods and software of getting everything in sync and working on the PS3.

I have come close a few times but nothing as perfect as this.

I have played back the .ts file on my PC which works fine :-)

musicman, don't you mean 23.976? you need to do that and also to remove the pulldown

[musicman2311]

yes, glen, that is what I meant - 23.976.
And I had gone through the very same as you and confirm all you found. Yesterday I successfully ran a 1 min clip of a difficult stream according to your method. It played perfectly.

As for Vc1 - does anybody here have experience with vc1conv treated files on blu ray - all I know is that scenarist doesn't accept the resulting stream.

I will need to do some testing, when I have time.

but I am eager to get feedback from people with experience.

[bennynihon]

Is there a guide that is in the opposite direction: Bluray to HD-DVD authoring? Long live HD-DVD!

[tyee]

@glen8
I just tried h264info to remove pulldown but I was getting about 150 KBytes/sec. It was taking forever. How long does it take on your machine?

[glen8]

Originally Posted by tyee

@glen8
I just tried h264info to remove pulldown but I was getting about 150 KBytes/sec. It was taking forever. How long does it take on your machine?

Luckily I have a pretty fast machine (2 x segate 7200.10s in Raid-0, they are the new single platter models) but it still takes a good 30mins

[glen8]

I can confirm that dts from dtshd source also works perfectly using the above guide. It didn't seem to work too well from eac3to but worked great directly from tsMuxeR.

[Trahald]

yeah.. i really need to speed that sucker up. its sucking up tons of cpu for some reason.

[glen8]

Originally Posted by Trahald

yeah.. i really need to speed that sucker up. its sucking up tons of cpu for some reason.

one of my cores is pretty much maxed out so I guess its normal

I have just done the transformers conversion which works great too. I compared that with the version from usenet which seems to be the first hd-dvd > blu-ray ever released.

I've just noticed that the usenet version has DTS. Very strange when you consider it never had a dts track only dolby digital +

I'm wondering if he ripped the audio from the DVD

[Creator1]

Originally Posted by glen8

one of my cores is pretty much maxed out so I guess its normal

I have just done the transformers conversion which works great too. I compared that with the version from usenet which seems to be the first hd-dvd > blu-ray ever released.

I've just noticed that the usenet version has DTS. Very strange when you consider it never had a dts track only dolby digital +

I'm wondering if he ripped the audio from the DVD

glen glen glen, you're my savior! I am at your feets!

I will try your guide tonight if I have the time!

It seems the remove pulldown option is new to h264.info because that program didn't have that option before when I tried to find something to remove the damn pulldown.

Also, txMuxer must be a new tool, I never saw it before? Would be cool if it works better than Elecard Xmuxer pro which is not too good imho.

I can answer your question for the DTS track on the usenet version of Transformers. The guy simply converted the DD+ track to DTS 1.5mbps. You can do that with eac3to. In fact, I suggest you always do that as it is the best quality you can have if you don't want DD+ or DTS-HD sound. Just put a ".dts" extension to the destination file in eac3togui and be sure to have "Surcode DVD DTS" installed and eac3to will convert your DD+ source file to DTS 1.5Mbps. That's what I always do.

I will try this guide on the star trek season 1 HD-DVD that I bought. It's the only H.264 HD-DVD I have besides Transformers.

I have two questions though to anyone who tried this guide:

1) Does the elementary stream with pulldown removed import in Scenarist BDA?

2) Can you use the Nero encoder in eac3to instead of the sonic one? Unless things changed it is the best one for sound quality as DRC and other bad stuff can be turned off by eac3to using the Nero decoder but not with the Sonic one.

I want to add some thanks to the makers of all those apps also. Wouldn't be possible without your help guys.

[musicman2311]

Originally Posted by musicman2311

yes, glen, that is what I meant - 23.976.
And I had gone through the very same as you and confirm all you found. Yesterday I successfully ran a 1 min clip of a difficult stream according to your method. It played perfectly.

As for Vc1 - does anybody here have experience with vc1conv treated files on blu ray - all I know is that scenarist doesn't accept the resulting stream.

I will need to do some testing, when I have time.

but I am eager to get feedback from people with experience.

correction - i tested again

23.97 vs 23.976 makes no difference in h264info.

in my earlier tests i had forgotten to set the 'write PPS..' flag,
that makes a big difference - sorry for confusion

[Creator1]

Ok, I did a quick test tonight with transformers and it seems to work for importation into Scenarist BDA!

SO I answered my question #1 above. This is good news. It seems the missing link for me was simply the availability of the remove pulldown option which is now available thanks to the latest updates to the h264info program.

Many thanks to the creator of h264info!

I'll tell you more when I do more tests on this.

[glen8]

I am doing more testing with the conversion and after a week will produce a better guide

I have found after months of work that the elcard range of products simply don't work with the hd-dvd > blu-ray conversion. Xmuxer pro was a waste of time.

I didn't get on any better with streaming it through converter pro either. I even tried streaming the video through graphedit/avisynth with a forced framerate but that also didn't work

I played around with Scenarist for weeks and just gave up. I was getting nowhere fast

In short, this guide is currently the ONLY way of getting a successful transfer