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Old 20th May 2008, 02:03   #2001  |  Link
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Your test build triggers Execute Disable on my system crashing mpc but xxl rev 518 works and decodes with dxva only the sd3.1 file, the sd4.1 cannot be rendered.
Cyberlink's pdvd8 h264 decoder decodes both with dxva.
With Aleksoid1978 files 2 play corrupted and other 2 play fine with dxva (nvidia).

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Try build rev 518 hosted here. Also use evr/evr custom presenter.
"H.264 bitstream decoder, No FGT" means that the gpu is decoding the video.
nope, its a no-go. used custom presenter w/218 build, now it shows the movie with audio, and video, but says "Not using DXVA"

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im using XP, w 8800GTS (g92 core) and internal MPCHC decoder.

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Cyberlink's pdvd8 h264 decoder decodes both with dxva.
seems to confirm that the max level for SD is also 4.1
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The 518 build correct the issue with DXVA playback I was having, as discussed on the thread from the HTPC forum:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...=972503&page=6

MeGUI encode using HD-DXVA-HQ profile, from MPEG 2 source, PAR 1.028

build 518 - DXVA good

MPC-HC 1.1.0.0 - no DXVA, filter properties indicate DXVA, but all I would get is a black screen.

MPC 1.1.0.0 w/ PDVD8 h264 codec - DXVA good.
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I would like to do a list with all known bugs and issues for MPC-HC and add it to my first post.
Please send me a pm or post it on this thread.
Filename (in Chinese character) contains unsupported characters (use only A-Z, 0-9) when I play any media (except .mp4) MPC-HC latest, not happen on r492.

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I have uploaded r517 for x64 here : http://www.zshare.net/download/12268144e4b3a2b2/
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Filename (in Chinese character) contains unsupported characters (use only A-Z, 0-9) when I play any media (except .mp4) MPC-HC latest, not happen on r492.

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This message should happen only with real media files. Do you confirm you have it with other kind of video files?
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This message should happen only with real media files. Do you confirm you have it with other kind of video files?
Its my mistakes, it only happens to real media files. Sorry about it.
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build for testing purpose only, which will try to decode with DXVA everything.
http://www.etud.insa-toulouse.fr/~mv..._r518_TEST.zip
Here are my results(xp,vmr9,hd2400pro):

SD31.mp4 >> DXVA enabled, playback is fine

SD41.mp4 >> DXVA enabled, plays a few frames than hangs

pirates_sample.mkv >> DXVA enabled, playback is fine

shooter_sample.mkv >> DXVA enabled, playback is fine (this file had the random macroblocking corruption bug during one of the test runs, it happend around the "shooter" part)

sw_2_sample.mkv >> DXVA enabled, playback is fine (this file had the random macroblocking corruption bug during one of the test runs, it happend around the "fox logo" part)

x3_sample.mkv >> DXVA enabled, playback is fine
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seems to confirm that the max level for SD is also 4.1
PowerDVd has a habit of defaulting back to software mode without telling the end user, so we have to be extra carefull about that one
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Here are my results(xp,vmr9,hd2400pro):

SD31.mp4 >> DXVA enabled, playback is fine

SD41.mp4 >> DXVA enabled, plays a few frames than hangs

pirates_sample.mkv >> DXVA enabled, playback is fine

shooter_sample.mkv >> DXVA enabled, playback is fine (this file had the random macroblocking corruption bug during one of the test runs, it happend around the "shooter" part)

sw_2_sample.mkv >> DXVA enabled, playback is fine (this file had the random macroblocking corruption bug during one of the test runs, it happend around the "fox logo" part)

x3_sample.mkv >> DXVA enabled, playback is fine
Interesting ... What is You video, Ati or Nvidia, XP or Vista,
version of Drivers ???

Because on my 8800GT, 174.74 drivers on all this files i have "20 fps bug" on External Cyberlink 7 h264 Decoder OR Black Screen and file not play on MPC Internal Decoder - on XP and on Vista x64 too

Possible some wrong with NVIDIA and here DRIVERS
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Interesting ... What is You video, Ati or Nvidia, XP or Vista,
version of Drivers ???

Because on my 8800GT, 174.74 drivers on all this files i have "20 fps bug" on External Cyberlink 7 h264 Decoder OR Black Screen and file not play on MPC Internal Decoder - on XP and on Vista x64 too

Possible some wrong with NVIDIA and here DRIVERS
i already answered those questions in the post itself..


anyway to make it even more clear:
Winxp SP2

ATI hd2400pro

driver version: 8.3

imho nvidia is terrible with DXVA

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it says "H.264 bitstream decoder, No FGT", whatever that means, but its only a black screen; video, or audio. it just wont play. it sits there on "Play" and the time doesnt move fwd. im using vmr9 renderless.
Check with "Media Info" how many "Ref Frames" your stream has. If it's 5 or more ... need re-encode. (I have (or had now) the symptoms over here).

@All: By the way: Why such limitation ? Is it nVidia drivers limitation or MPC-HomeCinema ?

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Here are my results(xp,vmr9,hd2400pro):
SD31.mp4 >> DXVA enabled, playback is fine
SD41.mp4 >> DXVA enabled, plays a few frames than hangs
pirates_sample.mkv >> DXVA enabled, playback is fine
shooter_sample.mkv >> DXVA enabled, playback is fine (this file had the random macroblocking corruption bug during one of the test runs, it happend around the "shooter" part)
sw_2_sample.mkv >> DXVA enabled, playback is fine (this file had the random macroblocking corruption bug during one of the test runs, it happend around the "fox logo" part)
x3_sample.mkv >> DXVA enabled, playback is fine
same result here.
but i can't reproduce macroblock corruption.
(xpsp3,vmr9/ovl,hd2600xt,Cata8.49)
http://tirnanog.fate.jp/tmp/snap/shooter.png
http://tirnanog.fate.jp/tmp/snap/sw_2.png
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Same result for me as wyrd and tetsuo, too. XPSP3, HD2400XT, Catalyst 8.4.
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@Aleksoid1978

Cyberlinks filter plays all samples using dxva properly. MPC internal dxva plays x3 properly only, the others have video corruption.

vista sp1 32bit + evr pre-sp1 (to avoid washed out picture with custom presenter in mpc), 9800gtx,175.63beta.

@tetsuo55
Open cyberlink's filter properties while holding CTRL and check the profile used (bitstream is dxva).
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build for testing purpose only, which will try to decode with DXVA everything.
http://www.etud.insa-toulouse.fr/~mv..._r518_TEST.zip

@people with DXVA cards, please test this two samples to see if SD decoding is limited to level 3.1 or level 4.1
http://www.etud.insa-toulouse.fr/~mv...pc-hc/SD31.mp4
http://www.etud.insa-toulouse.fr/~mv...pc-hc/SD41.mp4

and also please test the samples provided by Aleksoid1978 and report your findings.

SD41.mp4 is not dxva compatible.


You can try below encode setting.
resolution: max num_ref_frames (x264 encoder settings)
L4.1
720x576: 15 (--ref 15 --bframes 0) or (--ref 11 --bframes 3 --b-adapt --b-pyramid)

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Cyberlink's decoder can open that video stream using DXVA in mpc hc.

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I found this weird issue (anyone with the cyberlink decoder should try too), a DXVA playable h264 stream will give a black screen without playback under these conditions:
Cyberlink's h264 decoder (with dxva enabled) in the external filters list and set as preferred then ffdshow video decoder (if it's above cyberlink's disable the h264 support in ffdshow) in the list and set as preferred as well. MPC will build the graph but there won't be no playback, just a black screen and in the cyberlink's decoder properties the profile will be bitstream.
Change ffdshow video decoder to "set merit" or "block" and cyberlink's decoder will play the file with dxva normally.
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SD41.mp4 is not dxva compatible,the total number of frames maked as "used for reference" is 19.
The total number of frames maked as "used for reference" shall not be greater than num_ref_frames.
wrong, this file is compliant with the level 4.1 (perhaps not DXVA but that was the purpose of this test file)...
recent x264 builds don't behave like that...
again, please read carefully this thread before making assumption
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=972503
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I might be totally misunderstanding, but is this MPC version supposed to play H.264 and VC-1 videos without any external codecs?

I am not new to MPC in general, I use it mostly for high definition movies, most of them in transport stream files, 1080i and 1080p. I setup a new box and decided to give this a go, clean install and not use any codecs, but I couldn't get it to work. I was only able to play MPEG2 and x264. As a test, I installed CoreAVC and using that my H.264 files would play, as usual and expected.

I tried turning DXVA on/off for H.264 and VC-1, no change. Should H.264 and VC-1 play with the internal decoders? Is the transport stream the issue, maybe internal splitter can't handle it? That wouldn't seem to be likely since MPEG2 in TS files does work, but I am just looking for any possible ideas. Thanks.
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wrong, this file is compliant with the level 4.1 (perhaps not DXVA but that was the purpose of this test file)...
recent x264 builds don't behave like that...
again, please read carefully this thread before making assumption
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=972503
What part of this encode is the level 4.1 part? it looks fully 3.1compliant appart from the not working part.
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