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Old 18th December 2001, 16:39   #1  |  Link
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Backing Up Double Sided DVD - Muxing Probs After Creation of First *.Cif

G'Day,

DVD2SVCD version: 1.0.4 build 2
Title: The Pelican Brief
system: PAL
Region: 4 <DVD-ROM Is Region Free>
What is the Problem: i-Author creates 1 x *.Cif then error problem
Why you think it doesn't work: I'm expecting a further 2 x *.Cif's
If you solved it how.....: Hopefully I can come back and advise...

I ripped 5 x *.Vob's from Side A then 3 x *.Vob's from Side B with smartripper. The 22HR rip progressed right towards the end.
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- 18/12/2001 01:52:02
- Free on drive E: 7162.50 mb
- Creating CD-Images using I-Author
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Saving Subtitle Timecodes.
SVCD subtitles.
Length of E:\0x0\bbMPEG_Muxed_File00 Stream 1.mp2
2778
Length of E:\0x0\bbMPEG_Muxed_File01 Stream 1.mp2
2803
Length of E:\0x0\bbMPEG_Muxed_File02 Stream 1.mp2
2560
Executing I-Author Muxer.
Multiplexing:
- E:\0x0\bbMPEG_Muxed_File00.mpv
- E:\0x0\bbMPEG_Muxed_File00 Stream 1.mp2
- E:\0x0\en1-1.txt
Multiplexing finished.

Closing program
Executing I-Author. Creating CD-Image filename:
- E:\0x0\CD_Image_File_CD1.cif
Closing program
Executing I-Author Muxer.
Multiplexing:
- E:\0x0\bbMPEG_Muxed_File01.mpv
- E:\0x0\bbMPEG_Muxed_File01 Stream 1.mp2
- E:\0x0\en1-2.txt
Closing program
OGT First time over error detected. Fixing in progress.

Executing I-Author Muxer.
Multiplexing:
- E:\0x0\bbMPEG_Muxed_File01.mpv
- E:\0x0\bbMPEG_Muxed_File01 Stream 1.mp2
- E:\0x0\en1-2.txt
Closing program
OGT First time over error detected. Fixing in progress.

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My MUX Problem is indicated with a quick flash in the MPG2mps dialogue box.

Then DVD2SVCD Position 57 The process cannot acces the file because it is being used by another process - <I clicked Ok>

I have tried this twice in crash recovery and unable to progress beyond this point, the second time around I checked the 'Don't delete any files'. Therefore, I am showing 3 x mp2 & 3 x mpv files but only 1 x Cif.

Any help would be most appreciated.

Thanks

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Old 18th December 2001, 23:16   #2  |  Link
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"First time over" errors are subtitle related. dvd2svcd will try to fix them (as it says in the log), if you want or have to do it manually, open the offending subtitle list file (en1-2.txt in your case) and delete the lines referring to the first subtitle ... you will lose that subtitle, but your muxing problem might be solved.
Then, start mpg2mps manually and do the muxing ... and authoring afterwards.
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Old 19th December 2001, 04:18   #3  |  Link
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I've noticed that, in addition to having subtitles before the 4-second mark, having too high a combined bitrate can cause the 'first time over' message.

You didn't post enough of the log file for us to tell what your audio and video bitrates are. I only bring it up because the automated fix the DVD2SVCD attempts doesn't appear to be working in your case.

If deleting the first 20 seconds or so of subtitles doesn't fix the 'first time over' error, try muxing with just one audio stream. If that succeeds, you'll either need to reduce one (or both) of your audio stream bitrates or your max video bitrate.
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Old 19th December 2001, 15:28   #4  |  Link
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G'Day from down under....

Thanks to both smiller667 & Kedirekin for your responses, in fact a very BIG Thank you.

smiller667 I deleted just the first line, then Kedirekin I deleted the first 30 seconds of the OGT file en1-2.txt and still no joy.

I was able to Mux (Multiplexor) in i-Author without the subtitles in bbMPEG_Muxed File01.mpv ok.

But with the OGT Active and the en1-2.txt inserted receive the following:

MUX caused an invalid page fault in
module KERNEL32.DLL at 0187:bff7a138.
Registers:
EAX=0ddddddc CS=0187 EIP=bff7a138 EFLGS=00010212
EBX=007662b4 SS=018f ESP=0063e448 EBP=0063e47c
ECX=0000000c DS=018f ESI=007626b0 FS=54e7
EDX=80801024 ES=018f EDI=0dde19e0 GS=0000
Bytes at CS:EIP:
89 51 08 8b 53 08 8b 43 04 89 42 04 8d 93 0b 10
Stack dump:
0063e47c 007626b0 00760000 007662b8 bff7b31d
00760000 007626b0 00003c04 00000200 7800138e
007626b4 007662b8 007626b0 0063e4c4 78001434
00760000

Therefore in response to your suggestion, hope you don't mind me posting the log in it's entirety.

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- 16/12/2001 19:48:30
- DVD to SVCD Conversion
- DVD2SVCD ver. 1.0.4 build 2
--------------------------------------------------------
Initializing
Initializing finished.

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- 16/12/2001 19:48:32
- Analyzing subtitles
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Subtitle found: StreamID: 0x22 Language: English
Subtitle found: StreamID: 0x20 Language: English
Subtitle found: StreamID: 0x21 Language: Arabic

Executing subtitle selection/verification.
Subtitle selection/verification accepted.
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- 16/12/2001 19:48:52
- Free on drive E: 16389.66 mb
- Extracting the subtitles.
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Subtitle extraction finished. Extracted these subtitles:
SVCD Stream no: 1 Language: English Num. of subs: 1529

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- 16/12/2001 19:59:33
- DVD2AVI
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Creating DVD2AVI INI file:
- E:\0x0\DVD2AVI.INI

Variable settings:
iDCT_Algorithm: 32-bit SSE MMX

Executing DVD2AVI.
Creating DVD2AVI project file.
Closing program
Framerate: 25000
DVD2AVI processing done.

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- 16/12/2001 20:05:11
- Free on drive E: 16340.53 mb
- AUDIO Extraction
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Found AC3 stream id: 0x80
Filename: E:\0x0\Extracted_audio_stream_1.ac3
Audio extraction finished.

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- 16/12/2001 20:19:38
- Free on drive E: 15967.91 mb
- AUDIO conversion
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Downmixing AC3 Stream. Filename: E:\0x0\Extracted_audio_stream_1.ac3
Autodetecting Azid dB Gain offset
Executing Azid. Commandline:
"D:\DVD2SVCD\Azid\Azid.exe" -c normal -g30db -N -L -3db "E:\0x0\Extracted_audio_stream_1.ac3" "E:\0x0\DownmixedAudioSt1-48KHz.wav" >"E:\0x0\Azid.log"
Autodetection of dB offset finished
Gain offset: 10.50dB
Executing Azid. Commandline:
"D:\DVD2SVCD\Azid\Azid.exe" -c normal -g10.50db -L -3db "E:\0x0\Extracted_audio_stream_1.ac3" "E:\0x0\DownmixedAudioSt1-48KHz.wav"
Downmixing of E:\0x0\Extracted_audio_stream_1.ac3 finished.

Audio delay: -80 ms
Adjusting audio delay.
Wav Conversion Finished

Encoding wav file to mp2.
Executing tooLame. Commandline:
"D:\DVD2SVCD\tooLame\tooLame.exe" -m s -b 224 -e "E:\0x0\FinalAudioSt1.wav" "E:\0x0\Encoded_audio_stream_1.mp2"
Audio conversion finished.

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- 16/12/2001 21:17:50
- Free on drive E: 15742.50 mb
- Converting Pictures
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Converting: D:\DVD2SVCD\DefaultTitlepicture.bmp
Converting: D:\DVD2SVCD\DefaultChangeCD.bmp
Finished converting pictures
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- 16/12/2001 21:17:58
- Free on drive E: 15741.69 mb
- Video Encoding
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OK
Closing program
StreamSectors: 2499719964
AudioSectors: 237931120
VideoPAPO: 35036316
ScanOffsetBytes: 314331
SeqAligningBytes: 19977481
VideoEndHeader: 12
SubtitleSectors: 5471391
EmptySectors: 238.00
PictureSectors: 450.00
PureMPEGStream: 2200989312.47
Seconds: 8384.16
CDSize: 800.00
Cut point 797.00
Variable Settings:
Frames: 209554
Anti Noise Filter: 2
Passes: 5
Image Quality: 17
VAF file creation: On
Video Encoding Mode: Multipass VBR
Min. bitrate: 300
Max. bitrate: 2498
Avg. Bitrate: 2100

Executing Cinema Craft Encoder.
OK
Closing program
Video Encoding finished.

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- 17/12/2001 23:13:39
- Free on drive E: 13591.97 mb
- Converting Pictures from ES to PS
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- 17/12/2001 23:13:42
- Free on drive E: 13591.94 mb
- Converting Pictures from ES to PS
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- 17/12/2001 23:13:44
- Free on drive E: 13591.94 mb
- Multiplexing and cutting
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Offset in Seconds: 2
Executing bbMPEG.
Variable Settings:
Movie offset: 2 seconds
Cut point: 797 mb
Closing program
Length of E:\0x0\bbMPEG_Muxed_File00.mpg
2776 Seconds
Offset in Seconds: 2778
Executing bbMPEG.
Variable Settings:
Movie offset: 2 seconds
Cut point: 797 mb
--------------------------------------------------------
- 17/12/2001 23:31:55
- DVD to SVCD Conversion
- DVD2SVCD ver. 1.0.4 build 2
--------------------------------------------------------
Initializing
Initializing finished.

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- 17/12/2001 23:31:58
- Free on drive E: 12795.13 mb
- Crash Recovery
- Restarting from: Muxing and Cutting
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- 17/12/2001 23:31:58
- Free on drive E: 13591.94 mb
- Converting Pictures from ES to PS
--------------------------------------------------------
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- 17/12/2001 23:31:59
- Free on drive E: 13591.94 mb
- Converting Pictures from ES to PS
--------------------------------------------------------
--------------------------------------------------------
- 17/12/2001 23:31:59
- Free on drive E: 13591.94 mb
- Multiplexing and cutting
--------------------------------------------------------
Offset in Seconds: 2
Executing bbMPEG.
Variable Settings:
Movie offset: 2 seconds
Cut point: 797 mb
Closing program
Length of E:\0x0\bbMPEG_Muxed_File00.mpg
2776 Seconds
Offset in Seconds: 2778
Executing bbMPEG.
Variable Settings:
Movie offset: 2 seconds
Cut point: 797 mb
Closing program
Length of E:\0x0\bbMPEG_Muxed_File01.mpg
2801 Seconds
Offset in Seconds: 5579
Executing bbMPEG.
Variable Settings:
Movie offset: 2 seconds
Cut point: 797 mb
Closing program
Multiplexing and cutting finished.

--------------------------------------------------------
- 18/12/2001 00:08:14
- Free on drive E: 11218.16 mb
- Demuxing
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Demuxing: E:\0x0\bbMPEG_Muxed_File00.mpg
Demuxing: E:\0x0\bbMPEG_Muxed_File01.mpg
Demuxing: E:\0x0\bbMPEG_Muxed_File02.mpg
Demuxing finished.

--------------------------------------------------------
- 18/12/2001 00:14:26
- Free on drive E: 11274.31 mb
- Creating CD-Images using I-Author
--------------------------------------------------------
Saving Subtitle Timecodes.
SVCD subtitles.
Length of E:\0x0\bbMPEG_Muxed_File00 Stream 1.mp2
2778
Length of E:\0x0\bbMPEG_Muxed_File01 Stream 1.mp2
2803
Length of E:\0x0\bbMPEG_Muxed_File02 Stream 1.mp2
2560
Executing I-Author Muxer.
Multiplexing:
- E:\0x0\bbMPEG_Muxed_File00.mpv
- E:\0x0\bbMPEG_Muxed_File00 Stream 1.mp2
- E:\0x0\en1-1.txt
Multiplexing finished.

Closing program
Executing I-Author. Creating CD-Image filename:
- E:\0x0\CD_Image_File_CD1.cif
Closing program
Executing I-Author Muxer.
Multiplexing:
- E:\0x0\bbMPEG_Muxed_File01.mpv
- E:\0x0\bbMPEG_Muxed_File01 Stream 1.mp2
- E:\0x0\en1-2.txt
Closing program
OGT First time over error detected. Fixing in progress.

Executing I-Author Muxer.
Multiplexing:
- E:\0x0\bbMPEG_Muxed_File01.mpv
- E:\0x0\bbMPEG_Muxed_File01 Stream 1.mp2
- E:\0x0\en1-2.txt
Closing program
OGT First time over error detected. Fixing in progress.

Executing I-Author Muxer.
Multiplexing:
- E:\0x0\bbMPEG_Muxed_File01.mpv
- E:\0x0\bbMPEG_Muxed_File01 Stream 1.mp2
- E:\0x0\en1-2.txt
Closing program
OGT First time over error detected. Fixing in progress.

Executing I-Author Muxer.
Multiplexing:
- E:\0x0\bbMPEG_Muxed_File01.mpv
- E:\0x0\bbMPEG_Muxed_File01 Stream 1.mp2
- E:\0x0\en1-2.txt
Closing program
OGT First time over error detected. Fixing in progress.

Executing I-Author Muxer.
Multiplexing:
- E:\0x0\bbMPEG_Muxed_File01.mpv
- E:\0x0\bbMPEG_Muxed_File01 Stream 1.mp2
- E:\0x0\en1-2.txt

-----------------------------------------------------------------

I might add that I appear to be showing 4 x OGT files instead of three ie en1-1.txt 361KB, en1-2.txt 429KB, en1-3.txt 280KB & en1-4.txt 23KB. I was thinking that may be I should only have three of these files and that one of these may have to be appended to the other. But which one? I have copied the first and last seconds from each of the four text files:

************************* en1-1.txt ***************************

*******IAUTHOR OGT CREATED BY DVD2SVCD*******

BMPFILE: en100002.bmp

STARTTIME: 142.58

TIME: 142.58 SETCOLOR Primary 0, 16, 128, 128

TIME: 142.58 SETCOLOR Primary 1, 235, 128, 128

TIME: 142.58 SETCOLOR Primary 2, 42, 128, 128

> snipped

TIME: 142.58 FIELDINDEX 0, 1

TIME: 142.58 ENABLE_OGT

TIME: 182.36 DISABLE_OGT

************ Page #1 Finished***************

************ Page #1103 Finished***************

BMPFILE: en101105.bmp

STARTTIME: 2796.09

TIME: 2796.09 SETCOLOR Primary 0, 16, 128, 128

TIME: 2796.09 SETCOLOR Primary 1, 235, 128, 128

> snipped

TIME: 2796.09 FIELDINDEX 0, 1

TIME: 2796.09 ENABLE_OGT

TIME: 2798.02 DISABLE_OGT

************ Page #1104 Finished***************

************************* en1-2.txt *********************

************ Page #506 Finished***************

BMPFILE: en100508.bmp

STARTTIME: 9.85

TIME: 9.85 SETCOLOR Primary 0, 16, 128, 128

TIME: 9.85 SETCOLOR Primary 1, 235, 128, 128

> snipped

TIME: 9.85 FIELDINDEX 0, 1

TIME: 9.85 ENABLE_OGT

TIME: 12.73 DISABLE_OGT

************ Page #507 Finished***************

************ Page #1103 Finished***************

BMPFILE: en101105.bmp

STARTTIME: 2796.09

TIME: 2796.09 SETCOLOR Primary 0, 16, 128, 128

TIME: 2796.09 SETCOLOR Primary 1, 235, 128, 128

TIME: 2796.09 SETCOLOR Primary 2, 42, 128, 128

> snipped

TIME: 2796.09 FIELDINDEX 0, 1

TIME: 2796.09 ENABLE_OGT

TIME: 2798.02 DISABLE_OGT

************ Page #1104 Finished***************

************************* en1-3.txt *********************

*******IAUTHOR OGT CREATED BY DVD2SVCD*******

BMPFILE: en101107.bmp

STARTTIME: 5.89

TIME: 5.89 SETCOLOR Primary 0, 16, 128, 128

TIME: 5.89 SETCOLOR Primary 1, 235, 128, 128

TIME: 5.89 SETCOLOR Primary 2, 42, 128, 128

TIME: 5.89 SETCOLOR Primary 3, 126, 128, 128

TIME: 5.89 SETCOLOR Highlight 0, 16, 128, 128

TIME: 5.89 SETCOLOR Highlight 1, 209, 146, 17

TIME: 5.89 SETCOLOR Highlight 2, 81, 239, 91

TIME: 5.89 SETCOLOR Highlight 3, 144, 35, 54

TIME: 5.89 region 89, 450 to 615, 478

TIME: 5.89 SETBLEND Primary 0, 15, 15, 15

TIME: 5.89 SETBLEND Highlight 0, 15, 15, 15

TIME: 5.89 FIELDINDEX 0, 1

TIME: 5.89 ENABLE_OGT

TIME: 7.75 DISABLE_OGT

************ Page #1106 Finished***************

************ Page #1495 Finished***************

BMPFILE: en101497.bmp

STARTTIME: 2435.49

TIME: 2435.49 SETCOLOR Primary 0, 16, 128, 128

TIME: 2435.49 SETCOLOR Primary 1, 235, 128, 128

> snipped

TIME: 2435.49 SETCOLOR Highlight 3, 144, 35, 54

TIME: 2435.49 region 344, 16 to 360, 32

TIME: 2435.49 SETBLEND Primary 0, 15, 15, 15

TIME: 2435.49 SETBLEND Highlight 0, 15, 15, 15

TIME: 2435.49 FIELDINDEX 0, 1

TIME: 2435.49 ENABLE_OGT

TIME: 2675.87 DISABLE_OGT

************ Page #1496 Finished***************

************************* en1-4.txt ***************************

*******IAUTHOR OGT CREATED BY DVD2SVCD*******

BMPFILE: en101498.bmp

STARTTIME: 117.84

TIME: 117.84 SETCOLOR Primary 0, 16, 128, 128

TIME: 117.84 SETCOLOR Primary 1, 235, 128, 128

TIME: 117.84 SETCOLOR Primary 2, 42, 128, 128

> snipped

TIME: 117.84 SETBLEND Highlight 0, 15, 15, 15

TIME: 117.84 FIELDINDEX 0, 1

TIME: 117.84 ENABLE_OGT

TIME: 119.59 DISABLE_OGT

************ Page #1497 Finished***************
************ Page #1527 Finished***************

BMPFILE: en101529.bmp

STARTTIME: 228.81

TIME: 228.81 SETCOLOR Primary 0, 16, 128, 128

TIME: 228.81 SETCOLOR Primary 1, 235, 128, 128

TIME: 228.81 SETCOLOR Primary 2, 42, 128, 128

> snipped

TIME: 228.81 FIELDINDEX 0, 1

TIME: 228.81 ENABLE_OGT

TIME: 230.60 DISABLE_OGT

************ Page #1528 Finished***************

***********************************************

Did you notice how text file en1-2.txt, is missing the DVD2SVCD Header *******IAUTHOR OGT CREATED BY DVD2SVCD******* yet the other three files 1,3 & 4 have it.

Oh yes, am I correct in assuming that I'm only using the one audio stream?

I would really like to get this one solved if I can and once again certainly appreciate any help.

kindest regards

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Old 19th December 2001, 16:22   #5  |  Link
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what about the new version of dvd2svcd without Iauthor support? Give it a try.

To use the new version and avoid another 24 hours of video encoding, do the following:

1) start the process using the new version with all settings that you want. Use a new folder to output files;
2) few seconds after the begin of CCE work, cancel CCE. Let DVD2SVCD working. It will probably crash at muxing step;
3) copy the old - and already encoded - *.mpv file generated by CCE in this new folder of work;
4) use crash recovery to restart from the step that goes after "video encoding" - probably "muxing and cutting".
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Old 20th December 2001, 01:34   #6  |  Link
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Mozart's suggestion is a good one.

As for the errors with the version you've been using, I think your bitrate is too high (video max 2498, audio 224). You should lower the max combined bitrate by 40-50 kbps for each subtitle stream you intend to include.

The fact that you're getting a hard crash (page fault) instead of the '1st time over' error is pretty disturbing though.

I you feel like trying it, you could re-encode your audio to, say, 128 kbps and remuxing. 160 kbps might be low enough too, but I'd try 128 first That should free up bitrate so that iAuthor will accept it (though again, you are getting hard crashes, so I really just don't know).

Oh, and one possible reason that en1-2.txt is missing the DVD2SVCD header is that DVD2SVCD tried to 'repair' it, which probably means summarily deleting everything before the second subtitle entry.

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Old 20th December 2001, 10:56   #7  |  Link
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I guess we are seeing severyl problems here ... first, subtitles were split incorrectly for a total of 3 discs.
Second, as Kedirekin pointed out, your bitrate is very close to the max ... and you should calculate roughly 50k per subtitle track added. That's why you get the first time over error ...
Then, dvd2svcd tries to fix it by removing the first sub(s) ... this often helps in critical situations. It apparently removed the "header" & incorrectly failed to remove one line (as already pointed out by Kedirekin) ... you might want to add that header line and remove the

************ Page #506 Finished***************

from the en1-2.txt. This line and/or the lack of the header might cause the crash in the muxer ...
Mozart's suggestion is probably the best way to go ...
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Old 20th December 2001, 11:40   #8  |  Link
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G'Day!

Well do I feel real stupid... I took part of Mozart's advice in that I chose to go along with the same build instead of installing the new version. I did this because I have had no problems at all with some nine DVD's during the past month. Starting from the beginning I found that my problems may well have been an operator error, as only 1415 subtitle *.bmp's were created this time around, instead of 1522 *.bmp's which were created from the original process.

Where did I go wrong? I believe that I may have had smartripper fool DVD2SVCD program on side 'B' by adding an extra *.vob file in the ripping process. How I found this out was I let DVD2SVCD rip side 'B' first. It only ripped three files, where as smartripper ripped all four *.vob's. I stopped DVD2SVCD and renamed the *.vob's 5,6 & 7. I then proceeded in letting DVD2SVCD rip side 'A' It ripped only four of the five *.vob's. I stopped the DVD2SVCD program once more.

Recommencing a fresh process showed some 110 subtitle *.bmp's less, which leads me to believe that the first *.vob was ignored from side 'A' but may not have been ignored from side 'B'.

Therefore, in conclusion and rather than waste anyone elses time, I've decided to go along with the entire encoding process all over again. Special thanks to Mozart, Kedirekin and smiller667 for your suggestions. Yes, I will pay you all the courtesy in letting you know how I went with this project in say, a day or two.

Edit: Ok the whole process has long completed. Not a setting was changed due to the fact, that I was pleased with some seven previous backups with those settings in version 1.0.4 build 2 . Therefore, vStrip was able to rip the correct *.vob's.

The acid test is my standalone, it play's the movies perfectly together with subtitles. Thanks for everyone's help.


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