How do I get video out of premiere, and into avisynth?

Blue_MiSfit · 24th July 2006, 08:51

So yeah..

I'm messing around with Premiere Pro 2, and have shot some nice 24p footage with a Panasonic DVX-100. I threw together a stupid little edit, lots of clips of the beach, waves etc...

I want to get this into an output file - either without re-encoding, or going lossless. I want to then frameserve this output file to MeGUI or VirtualDub using AviSynth.

When I export DV, the framerate gets messed up, and I get a 29.97 clip, not a 23.976. I think it was also interlaced. Bad.

I can export to lossless using ffdshow VFW, and lossless jpeg looks ok, but every couple frames there is garbage. So that is not an option. I tried Debug Mode's Frameserver, which is supposed to serve AVIs, but it doesnt seem to work correctly with 2.0. Going straight to XviD doesn't work either.

How can I get the video out, maintaining 24p?? Is there anything short of exporting uncompressed YV12???

Thanks
~MiSfit

krisq · 24th July 2006, 20:06

try this excellent frameserver for premiere. DebugMode Frameserver

Blue_MiSfit · 25th July 2006, 03:15

I tried that, but it seems to have some problems with 2.0.

Have you tried it with Premiere Pro 2.0??

krisq · 25th July 2006, 09:00

no, sorry. I'm working on 1.5

check · 25th July 2006, 09:20

are you sure every frame is breaking? check by stepping through frame by frame, it might be artifacts caused by the CPU not being fast enough to decode in realtime.
If not, I'd guess the problem is lying with the raw video output that premiere is handing to the encoder, or with your version of ffdshow. It might be worth updating ffdshow (x264.nl has nice builds) and playing around with output options.
If you have the space, uncompressed video is always an option....

Blue_MiSfit · 27th July 2006, 06:53

i have the may 26 2006 ffdshow build, so i'm pretty sure that's not the issue.

Installed huffyuv (not inside ffdshow, the real codec), and tried that, no go. i see no video when I try to play the output file in vlc or mpc.

I tried uncompressed, and this didnt work either, avisynth says unsupported fourcc, which apparently was "v210"

Tried mjpeg again, and it seems to work, but this time crashes the viewing app after just a couple frames (tried mpc and vdub with ffdshow, same results, and VLC shows nothing)

If I output DV, I could probably do some crazy pulldown to get it back to 24p, just not sure what the script would be...

emersk · 1st September 2006, 21:03

Debugmode frameserver works well with premiere pro 2.0 . I frame serve to virtualdub 1.6.16.

I can get great de-interlaced divx 6 output that way. By contrast exporting with Premiere 2.0 from mpeg2 to h264 using mainconcept's plugin for premiere results in no de-interlacing.

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Blue_MiSfit fit 10 in 5 Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Santa Clara, CA Posts: 3,411	How do I get video out of premiere, and into avisynth? So yeah.. I'm messing around with Premiere Pro 2, and have shot some nice 24p footage with a Panasonic DVX-100. I threw together a stupid little edit, lots of clips of the beach, waves etc... I want to get this into an output file - either without re-encoding, or going lossless. I want to then frameserve this output file to MeGUI or VirtualDub using AviSynth. When I export DV, the framerate gets messed up, and I get a 29.97 clip, not a 23.976. I think it was also interlaced. Bad. I can export to lossless using ffdshow VFW, and lossless jpeg looks ok, but every couple frames there is garbage. So that is not an option. I tried Debug Mode's Frameserver, which is supposed to serve AVIs, but it doesnt seem to work correctly with 2.0. Going straight to XviD doesn't work either. How can I get the video out, maintaining 24p?? Is there anything short of exporting uncompressed YV12??? Thanks ~MiSfit __________________ I require bits. More bits!

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krisq Registered User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Poland Posts: 171	try this excellent frameserver for premiere. DebugMode Frameserver __________________ (!sig)

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Blue_MiSfit fit 10 in 5 Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Santa Clara, CA Posts: 3,411	I tried that, but it seems to have some problems with 2.0. Have you tried it with Premiere Pro 2.0?? __________________ I require bits. More bits!

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krisq Registered User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Poland Posts: 171	no, sorry. I'm working on 1.5 __________________ (!sig)

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check phjbdpcrjlj2sb3h Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Western Australia Posts: 1,693	are you sure every frame is breaking? check by stepping through frame by frame, it might be artifacts caused by the CPU not being fast enough to decode in realtime. If not, I'd guess the problem is lying with the raw video output that premiere is handing to the encoder, or with your version of ffdshow. It might be worth updating ffdshow (x264.nl has nice builds) and playing around with output options. If you have the space, uncompressed video is always an option.... __________________ CCCP \| MeWiki \| techouse's x264 builds \| Kovensky's mplayer builds

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Blue_MiSfit fit 10 in 5 Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Santa Clara, CA Posts: 3,411	i have the may 26 2006 ffdshow build, so i'm pretty sure that's not the issue. Installed huffyuv (not inside ffdshow, the real codec), and tried that, no go. i see no video when I try to play the output file in vlc or mpc. I tried uncompressed, and this didnt work either, avisynth says unsupported fourcc, which apparently was "v210" Tried mjpeg again, and it seems to work, but this time crashes the viewing app after just a couple frames (tried mpc and vdub with ffdshow, same results, and VLC shows nothing) If I output DV, I could probably do some crazy pulldown to get it back to 24p, just not sure what the script would be... __________________ I require bits. More bits!

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emersk HTPC builder Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: NYC Posts: 2	Debugmode frameserver works well with premiere pro 2.0 . I frame serve to virtualdub 1.6.16. I can get great de-interlaced divx 6 output that way. By contrast exporting with Premiere 2.0 from mpeg2 to h264 using mainconcept's plugin for premiere results in no de-interlacing. Last edited by emersk; 1st September 2006 at 21:06.

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