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Old 22nd November 2005, 23:49   #1  |  Link
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Tools for HC: GetCQ 0.17.0.1 + HIG 0.17.0.1 - now gpl

GetCQ for HCEnc by Amnon82



This program uses HCEnc by Hank.
Use this program to predict your
movies using a HC.ini-file.

0.17.0.1 <11.04.06>
* updated for HC 0.17
* added new features of HC 0.17

0.16.1.2 <12.12.05>
* Fixed prediction engine
* Same size/%-value is fixed now

(C) 2005 - 2007 by Amnon82

Download Build 0.17.0.1 + HIG 0.17.0.1

Well, I decided to release the source code of this two apps under gpl. When somebody wants, you can update it to the newest HCenc version. Since I'm on linux now I don't have time for my win32 apps. Sorry.

Source code of HIG 0.17.0.1 (md5sum: d7e5ff4b0b0f22042d0c47e44dfeac9e)

Source code of getCQ 0.17.0.1 (md5sum: de63a842fb2152f0a5f120f8d4203c34)

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Old 23rd November 2005, 11:47   #2  |  Link
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Nice idea, but the archive contains multiplex, the mpeg (de)multiplexer.

Any chance of the GetCQ, to try? Thanks.

Probably I'm a little early.. But why have multiplex in the archive? Oh well, I can wait.. LOL
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If the program calculates with CQ and not CQ_maxbitrate parameter, final result could be not DVD compliant.
If you use CQ parameter to calculate and later CQ calculated with CQ_maxbitrate parameter, result could be messed up.
Could you explain this a little bit, how the program works?
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@Prodater64: It calculates with both. Check 'Force Max.Bit.' for CQ_maxbitrate.
@Fluffbutt: Try 0.16.0.1

Code:
20:59:42 >> GetCQ for HC 0.16.0.1 started ...
21:00:36 >> AVS loaded from: C:\TEST.AVS
21:00:36 >> Desired target: SVCD 352x288
21:00:36 >> Entered wanted size in MB: 450
21:00:36 >> Entered audio size(s) in MB: 66
21:00:36 >> Authoring and ISO overhead in MB: 12
21:00:36 >> % of movie will be used: 2
21:00:36 >> Your desired final encoded sample in MB: 7
21:00:36 >> Your desired final encoded file in MB: 350
21:00:36 >> Encode after prediction enabled
21:00:36 >> _________________________________________
21:00:36 >>
21:00:36 >> _________________________________________
21:00:36 >> Start prediction run #1
21:00:36 >> First CQ-value: 4.8
21:01:39 >> Results of prediction run #1
21:01:39 >> Encoded sample in MB: 6
21:01:39 >> Encoded sample in %: 85,71
21:01:39 >> Wanted samplesize in MB: 7
21:01:39 >> Precalculated finalsize in MB: 300
21:01:39 >> Wanted finalsize in MB: 350
21:01:39 >> _________________________________________
21:01:39 >> Start prediction run #2
21:01:39 >> CQ-value of this pass: 4.0
21:02:45 >> Results of prediction run #2
21:02:45 >> Encoded sample in MB: 7
21:02:45 >> Encoded sample in %: 100,00
21:02:45 >> Wanted samplesize in MB: 7
21:02:45 >> Precalculated finalsize in MB: 350
21:02:45 >> Wanted finalsize in MB: 350
21:02:45 >> _________________________________________
21:02:45 >> Encoding final sample [E = W]
21:03:50 >> Encoded final sample in MB: 7
21:03:50 >> Wanted samplesize in MB: 7
21:03:50 >> Precalculated finalsize in MB: 350
21:03:50 >> Wanted finalsize in MB: 350
21:03:50 >> Calculated finalsize in MB: 350
21:03:50 >> _________________________________________
21:03:50 >> AVS loaded from: C:\TEST.AVS
21:03:50 >> Desired target: SVCD 352x288
21:03:50 >> Entered wanted size in MB: 450
21:03:50 >> Entered audio size(s) in MB: 66
21:03:50 >> Authoring and ISO overhead in MB: 12
21:03:50 >> % of movie will be used: 2
21:03:50 >> Your desired final encoded sample in MB: 7
21:03:50 >> Your desired final encoded file in MB: 350
21:03:50 >> _________________________________________
21:03:50 >> Start fullencode
21:03:50 >> Final Q-value: 4.0
21:04:01 >> Results of prediction run #2
21:04:01 >> Encoded final encode in MB: 3
21:04:01 >> Encoded final encode in %: 42,86
21:04:01 >> Wanted samplesize in MB: 7
21:04:01 >> Precalculated finalsize in MB: 150
21:04:01 >> Wanted finalsize in MB: 350
Most GetCQ needs only two prediction runs

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What features do you need?

Planed features:
*Save last settings
*Save batchlist
*Rename final encodes in batchmode

Code:
00:53:25 >> GetCQ for HC 0.16.0.2 started ...
00:53:48 >> AVS loaded from: AVI_SAMPLE.AVI.AVS
00:53:48 >> Desired target: SVCD 352x288
00:53:48 >> Entered wanted size in MB: 400
00:53:48 >> Entered audio size(s) in MB: 60
00:53:48 >> Authoring and ISO overhead in MB: 12
00:53:48 >> % of movie will be used: 2
00:53:48 >> Your desired final encoded sample in MB: 7
00:53:48 >> Your desired final encoded file in MB: 350
00:53:48 >> Encode after prediction disabled
00:53:48 >> _______________________________________
00:53:48 >>
00:53:48 >> _______________________________________
00:53:48 >> Start prediction run #1
00:53:48 >> First CQ-value: 4.2
00:54:56 >> Results of prediction run #1
00:54:56 >> Encoded sample in MB: 6
00:54:56 >> Encoded sample in %: 85,71
00:54:56 >> Wanted samplesize in MB: 7
00:54:56 >> Precalculated finalsize in MB: 300
00:54:56 >> Wanted finalsize in MB: 350
00:54:56 >> _______________________________________
00:54:56 >> Start prediction run #2
00:54:56 >> CQ-value of this pass: 3.8
00:56:03 >> Results of prediction run #2
00:56:03 >> Encoded sample in MB: 7
00:56:03 >> Encoded sample in %: 100,00
00:56:03 >> Wanted samplesize in MB: 7
00:56:03 >> Precalculated finalsize in MB: 350
00:56:03 >> Wanted finalsize in MB: 350
00:56:03 >> _______________________________________
00:56:03 >> Encoding final sample
00:57:09 >> Encoded final sample in MB: 7
00:57:09 >> Wanted samplesize in MB: 7
00:57:09 >> Precalculated finalsize in MB: 350
00:57:09 >> Wanted finalsize in MB: 350
00:57:09 >> Calculated finalsize in MB: 350
00:57:09 >> Sample renamed to AVI._005709.sample
00:57:09 >> _______________________________________
00:57:09 >>

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Thanks man!

is this anything like your "AutoCQ 052 For HC Encoder.rar" (my rename) from a while ago?

Whatever happened to that, it was pretty good. I seem to recall it didn't like new HC versions - does this new GetCQ allow for newer HC's to come?
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AutoCQ was with a GUI. It created the HC.ini-s. I added the HCBatch.exe into the main-program. I'll think about release a new version of AutoCQ. GetCQ has the new AutoQ2 prediction mode I've enhanced to work better with HC. HC gaves me a 0.0 CQ value format. CCE has only 0. So I can create better CQ values using HC. This tool reaches always 100% It has a much better prediction tech than AutoCQ. Maybe I'll join AutoCQ with GetCQ using a special form to create a HC.ini. Also I added the batchmode to it. Do you have the exit error after using an AVISource?
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Wow, very cool, I'm going to test this as soon as possible.

Unfortunately it won't run: HC complains about "input not complete", then GetCQ throws up an error MessageBox: '4,8' ist kein gültiger Gleitkommawert. Problem with the decimal symbol? (I'm using Windows XP SP1, USA settings, period decimal symbol)
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hmm. In germany it is the way around. 4.8 ist kein gültiger Gleitkommawert.

4.8 is the cqvalue. I change it to 4,8 for calculation. I think I should turn it around for USA.
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dezimaltrennzeichen - decimal separator was on my computer a comma and not a dot.
I changed it now to a dot on my machine and changed the default cq value to 5.
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Code:
00:04:36 >> GetCQ for HC 0.16.0.3b started ...
00:05:02 >> AVS loaded from: SAMPLE.D2V.AVS
00:05:02 >> Desired target: SVCD 480x576
00:05:02 >> Entered wanted size in MB: 30
00:05:02 >> Entered audio size(s) in MB: 3
00:05:02 >> Authoring and ISO overhead in MB: 0
00:05:02 >> % of movie will be used: 2
00:05:02 >> Your desired final encoded sample in MB: 1
00:05:02 >> Your desired final encoded file in MB: 50
00:05:02 >> Encode after prediction enabled
00:05:02 >> _______________________________________
00:05:02 >>
00:05:02 >> _______________________________________
00:05:02 >> Start prediction run #1
00:05:02 >> First CQ-value: 5
00:05:10 >> Results of prediction run #1
00:05:10 >> Encoded sample in MB: 0
00:05:10 >> Error 21: 0 MB! Can't go on. 
00:05:10 >> GetCQ brakes the prediction mode.
00:05:10 >> AVS loaded from: SAMPLE.D2V.AVS
00:05:10 >> Desired target: SVCD 480x576
00:05:10 >> Entered wanted size in MB: 30
00:05:10 >> Entered audio size(s) in MB: 3
00:05:10 >> Authoring and ISO overhead in MB: 0
00:05:10 >> % of movie will be used: 16
00:05:10 >> Your desired final encoded sample in MB: 4
00:05:10 >> Your desired final encoded file in MB: 25
00:05:10 >> Encode after prediction enabled
00:05:10 >> _______________________________________
00:05:10 >>
00:05:10 >> _______________________________________
00:05:10 >> Start prediction run #1
00:05:10 >> First CQ-value: 5
00:05:30 >> Results of prediction run #1
00:05:30 >> Encoded sample in MB: 3
00:05:30 >> Encoded sample in %: 75.00
00:05:30 >> Wanted samplesize in MB: 4
00:05:30 >> Precalculated finalsize in MB: 19
00:05:30 >> Wanted finalsize in MB: 25
00:05:30 >> _______________________________________
00:05:30 >> Start prediction run #2
00:05:30 >> CQ-value of this pass: 4.2
00:05:53 >> Results of prediction run #2
00:05:53 >> Encoded sample in MB: 3
00:05:53 >> Encoded sample in %: 75.00
00:05:53 >> Wanted samplesize in MB: 4
00:05:53 >> Precalculated finalsize in MB: 19
00:05:53 >> Wanted finalsize in MB: 25
00:05:53 >> _______________________________________
00:05:53 >> Start prediction run #3
00:05:53 >> CQ-value of this pass: 3.5
00:06:17 >> Results of prediction run #3
00:06:17 >> Encoded sample in MB: 3
00:06:17 >> Encoded sample in %: 75.00
00:06:17 >> Wanted samplesize in MB: 4
00:06:17 >> Precalculated finalsize in MB: 19
00:06:17 >> Wanted finalsize in MB: 25
00:06:17 >> _______________________________________
00:06:17 >> Start prediction run #4
00:06:17 >> CQ-value of this pass: 2.9
00:06:43 >> Results of prediction run #4
00:06:43 >> Encoded sample in MB: 4
00:06:43 >> Encoded sample in %: 100.00
00:06:43 >> Wanted samplesize in MB: 4
00:06:43 >> Precalculated finalsize in MB: 25
00:06:43 >> Wanted finalsize in MB: 25
00:06:43 >> Sample renamed to SAMPLE.000643.sample
00:06:43 >> _______________________________________
00:06:43 >> 
00:06:43 >> _______________________________________
00:06:43 >> AVS loaded from: SAMPLE.D2V.AVS
00:06:43 >> Desired target: SVCD 480x576
00:06:43 >> Entered wanted size in MB: 30
00:06:43 >> Entered audio size(s) in MB: 3
00:06:43 >> Authoring and ISO overhead in MB: 0
00:06:43 >> % of movie will be used: 16
00:06:43 >> Your desired final encoded file in MB: 25
00:06:43 >> _______________________________________
00:06:43 >> Start fullencode
00:06:43 >> Final Q-value: 2.9
00:07:53 >> Results of final encode:
00:07:53 >> Encoded final encode in MB: 19
00:07:53 >> Wanted final encode in MB: 25
00:07:53 >> Final encode renamed to SAMPLE.000753.m2v
00:07:53 >> _______________________________________
00:07:53 >> 
00:07:53 >> AVS loaded from: SAMPLE.D2V.AVS
00:07:53 >> Desired target: SVCD 480x576
00:07:53 >> Entered wanted size in MB: 30
00:07:53 >> Entered audio size(s) in MB: 3
00:07:53 >> Authoring and ISO overhead in MB: 0
00:07:53 >> % of movie will be used: 16
00:07:53 >> Your desired final encoded sample in MB: 4
00:07:53 >> Your desired final encoded file in MB: 25
00:07:53 >> Encode after prediction enabled
00:07:53 >> _______________________________________
00:07:53 >>
00:07:53 >> _______________________________________
00:07:53 >> Start prediction run #1
00:07:53 >> First CQ-value: 5
00:08:13 >> Results of prediction run #1
00:08:13 >> Encoded sample in MB: 3
00:08:13 >> Encoded sample in %: 75.00
00:08:13 >> Wanted samplesize in MB: 4
00:08:13 >> Precalculated finalsize in MB: 19
00:08:13 >> Wanted finalsize in MB: 25
00:08:13 >> _______________________________________
00:08:13 >> Start prediction run #2
00:08:13 >> CQ-value of this pass: 4.2
00:08:36 >> Results of prediction run #2
00:08:36 >> Encoded sample in MB: 3
00:08:36 >> Encoded sample in %: 75.00
00:08:36 >> Wanted samplesize in MB: 4
00:08:36 >> Precalculated finalsize in MB: 19
00:08:36 >> Wanted finalsize in MB: 25
00:08:36 >> _______________________________________
00:08:36 >> Start prediction run #3
00:08:36 >> CQ-value of this pass: 3.5
00:09:00 >> Results of prediction run #3
00:09:00 >> Encoded sample in MB: 3
00:09:00 >> Encoded sample in %: 75.00
00:09:00 >> Wanted samplesize in MB: 4
00:09:00 >> Precalculated finalsize in MB: 19
00:09:00 >> Wanted finalsize in MB: 25
00:09:00 >> _______________________________________
00:09:00 >> Start prediction run #4
00:09:00 >> CQ-value of this pass: 2.9
00:09:26 >> Results of prediction run #4
00:09:26 >> Encoded sample in MB: 4
00:09:26 >> Encoded sample in %: 100.00
00:09:26 >> Wanted samplesize in MB: 4
00:09:26 >> Precalculated finalsize in MB: 25
00:09:26 >> Wanted finalsize in MB: 25
00:09:26 >> Sample renamed to SAMPLE.000926.sample
00:09:26 >> _______________________________________
00:09:26 >> 
00:09:26 >> _______________________________________
00:09:26 >> AVS loaded from: SAMPLE.D2V.AVS
00:09:26 >> Desired target: SVCD 480x576
00:09:26 >> Entered wanted size in MB: 30
00:09:26 >> Entered audio size(s) in MB: 3
00:09:26 >> Authoring and ISO overhead in MB: 0
00:09:26 >> % of movie will be used: 16
00:09:26 >> Your desired final encoded file in MB: 25
00:09:26 >> _______________________________________
00:09:26 >> Start fullencode
00:09:26 >> Final Q-value: 2.9
00:10:35 >> Results of final encode:
00:10:35 >> Encoded final encode in MB: 19
00:10:35 >> Wanted final encode in MB: 25
00:10:35 >> Final encode renamed to SAMPLE.001035.m2v
00:10:35 >> _______________________________________
00:10:35 >>
Sorry for all bugs in 0.16.0.3a. It is fixed now in 0.3b. Happy testing.
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In the next release I'll add an enhanced GUI. The style will almost be the same like in AutoQ 1.0.8.2. If you have some sugestions, tell me ...
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Released 0.5

HIG will come soon.
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always error in hc about input file. wont work at all
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What kind of error? Post me your HC.ini and your AVS-Script.
You can try my sample HC.ini in the INI-Folder. I tested it with an avi and it worked for me. Download the last build 0.16.0.5. This one shows you an english error message. Under the version 0.16.0.5 they are all german...

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Used your ini file and it worked. Thanks! (I thought I did last night but guess not)

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np. maybe you did some wrong. In the next release I'll add a INI-Gen so you won't have this problem again
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This program never worked for me yet! Where do I have to edit and finally place the HC-ini file? Pretty annoying so far! Is there somewhere a documentation?
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A little Guide to write a HC.ini

GetCQ searches for the HC.ini which is placed in the INI folder. When You start GetCQ a new file HC.bak is created which is a backup of the HC.ini. You have to edit the HC.ini before starting GetCQ or search for an other INI using the '...'-button in the INI-Line. So GetCQ uses the INI path which is written in the edit.

Here is the full sample HC.ini updated for HC 016:

Code:
-------------------------------
HC.ini template
These commands are required
Use full pathnames and just use the bitrate you want
-------------------------------
*infile        G:\MOVIE\MOVIE.avs
*outfile       G:\MOVIE\MOVIE.m2v
*bitrate       550
*maxbitrate    850
-------------------------------
Next commands are optional,
putting a space for it disables a command
-------------------------------
Aspect ratio has the options 1:1,4:3,16:9,2.21:1
-------------------------------
 *aspect       1:1
*aspect        4:3
 *aspect       16:9
 *aspect       2.21:1
-------------------------------
This command specifies bottom field first,
only used for interlaced encoding. Use TFF
to set top field first
-------------------------------
 *bff
*tff
-------------------------------
This command tweaks the compression curve,
0 means VBR, 100 tends to CBR
-------------------------------
*bias          30
-------------------------------
This command closes all gops
-------------------------------
 *closegops
-------------------------------
This command can be used to force the cpu
to use specific extensions
-------------------------------
*CPU           AUTO
 *CPU          MMX
 *CPU          SSE2
 *CPU          SSE3
-------------------------------
This commands orders the encoder to do a
1-pass with a constant quantization factor.
Use cq_maxbitrate to be DVD-compliant.
If the actual bitrate overshoots the maximum
bitrate set by the MAXBITRATE command the
quantizer is temporally raised.
-------------------------------
 *cq           4.0
*cq_maxbitrate 4.2
-------------------------------
This command defines custom intra and intermatrices
to be used and supersedes the default matrix and
the MATRIX command. The matrices must be supplied
as given in the example, 8 values per line.
-------------------------------
 *custommatrix
  8 32 32 32 32 32 32 32 
 32 32 32 32 32 32 32 32 
 32 32 32 32 32 32 32 32 
 32 32 32 32 32 32 32 32 
 32 32 32 32 32 32 32 32 
 32 32 32 32 32 32 32 32 
 32 32 32 32 32 32 32 32 
 32 32 32 32 32 32 32 32

 16 16 16 16 16 16 16 16 
 16 16 16 16 16 16 16 16 
 16 16 16 16 16 16 16 16 
 16 16 16 16 16 16 16 16 
 16 16 16 16 16 16 16 16 
 16 16 16 16 16 16 16 16 
 16 16 16 16 16 16 16 16 
 16 16 16 16 16 16 16 16
-------------------------------
This command defines the intra and intermatrix
to use.
-------------------------------
 *matrix       HC
 *matrix       NOTCH
 *matrix       QLB
 *matrix       BATCH1
 *matrix       JAWOR1CD
 *matrix       HVSGOOD
 *matrix       HVSBETTER
 *matrix       HVSBEST
 *matrix       AVAMAT6
*matrix        AVAMAT7
-------------------------------
This command defines the DC-precision to be used,
range 8 - 10
-------------------------------
*dc_prec       10 
-------------------------------
This command specifies the frames to be encoded,
if this command is not pressent all frames will
be encoded. In case of avisynth imput don't use this
command but use the trim option in the avisynth file.
-------------------------------
 *frames       1001 2500
-------------------------------
This command defines the GOP structure. Max GOP lenght is 36,
max B-frames is 2. If this command is omitted, HC will run in 
AUTOGOP mode.
-------------------------------
*gop           12 2
-------------------------------
Use this command if your source is interlaced, it might improve
quality. If this command is used also the alternate scanmethod
is set.
-------------------------------
 *interlaced
-------------------------------
This command disables output of the sequence endcode (00 00 01 B7)
 *noseq_endcode
-------------------------------
This command disables the scene change detection. Scene change detection
is enabled by default, at each scene change an I-frame is inserted
and the GOP is closed.
-------------------------------
 *noscd
-------------------------------
This command disables the VBV checking.
-------------------------------
 *novbv
-------------------------------
This command defines the encoding quality.
-------------------------------
 *profile      fast
 *profile      normal
*profile       best
-------------------------------
This command defines the scanning method to be used.
If interlaced is flagged it defaults to ALT but can
be set to ZIGZAG with this command.
-------------------------------
*scanmethod    ZIGZAG
 *scanmethod   ALT
-------------------------------
This command will shutdown the system in 300 seconds
after finishing encoding
-------------------------------
 *shutdown
-------------------------------
This command sets the timecode
-------------------------------
*timecode      0 0 0 0
-------------------------------
this command sets the waiting time before HC exits
after an encoding session, range 0 - 99
-------------------------------
*wait          4
-------------------------------
This command defines the log filename, if omitted
no logfile will be written. If the logfile already
exits the logs will be appended.
-------------------------------
*logfile       G:\MOVIE\MOVIE.log
-------------------------------
HC.ini by Amnon82
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