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Old 6th February 2018, 21:12   #48881  |  Link
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Where do I do that? I do not have a mobile PC. This GPU is my only one, and I am not aware of energy saving features yet...
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has nothing todo with mobile.
and you can try ngu x2 by disabling quadrupling.
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Old 6th February 2018, 23:44   #48882  |  Link
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It's tight (25 fps = 40 ms/f; rendering ~45-50 ms/f)

I need a new GPU. And then a new CPU as well. And new harddisks. Well ... a whole new PC.

Or bring my car through the next inspection. Either or.
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A 720p H.264 video plays fine in original size with ~20 ms/f; but when I maximize the player window, it takes ~90 ms/f.
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Old 7th February 2018, 00:46   #48883  |  Link
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well you clearly don't need a new CPU for madVR.
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It's tight (25 fps = 40 ms/f; rendering ~45-50 ms/f)

I need a new GPU. And then a new CPU as well. And new harddisks. Well ... a whole new PC.

Or bring my car through the next inspection. Either or.
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A 720p H.264 video plays fine in original size with ~20 ms/f; but when I maximize the player window, it takes ~90 ms/f.
A lot of dropped frames. You don't really a new cpu but consider maybe your pc is too old to use the new gpu.
And well, gpu is much expensive now because the mining upsurge.
If you do care the cost-performance an new AMD APU like Ryzen R5 2400G which would be sailed soon I think is a good choice.
(near the performance compare to the 7th i5+GTX1030 but half the money)
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Old 7th February 2018, 08:03   #48885  |  Link
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My current system is still a Phenom-II X6, modern encoders use at most "Fast SSE2". Changing the GPU and CPU only won't work. A whole new PC is required. After I saved my car.
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Old 7th February 2018, 09:31   #48886  |  Link
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If I have a 4k panel that is 60hz is it generally considered best practice to enter just 2160p60 under display modes in Madvr and nothing else?
No, if you tune a custom refresh rate for 24p (23.976 Hz) you should enter 2160p23 as well. Without tuning a refresh rate I suggest disabling display modes in madVR and turning on smooth motion, then madVR will use your normal desktop refresh rate all the time and you don't have to worry about refresh rates.

Actually even if you do tune a refresh rate for 24p you should enable smooth motion, it will only turn on when the refresh rate does not match the frame rate so prevents judder with less common frame rates.
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Old 7th February 2018, 12:34   #48887  |  Link
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My current system is still a Phenom-II X6, modern encoders use at most "Fast SSE2". Changing the GPU and CPU only won't work. A whole new PC is required. After I saved my car.
modern GPU can decode complex codecs nearly for free there is no need for a beefy CPU these days.

you only need a beefy CPU for stuff like UHD 10 bit H264 because that's a codec GPU can't decode.
and i'm pretty sure an phenom 2 can decode 1080p with reasonable bit rate.
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I do not only want to decode video. I also want to encode (x265 without AVX isn't funny), and play games, and calculate stuff, etc.; it would be another allrounder for both work and leisure time, not just a HTPC.

Enough off-topic with "my next PC" before we get warned. I will gladly be available for testing the lower thresholds of new features...
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Old 8th February 2018, 00:01   #48889  |  Link
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No, if you tune a custom refresh rate for 24p (23.976 Hz) you should enter 2160p23 as well. Without tuning a refresh rate I suggest disabling display modes in madVR and turning on smooth motion, then madVR will use your normal desktop refresh rate all the time and you don't have to worry about refresh rates.

Actually even if you do tune a refresh rate for 24p you should enable smooth motion, it will only turn on when the refresh rate does not match the frame rate so prevents judder with less common frame rates.
Ok so maybe I've misunderstood the function of this setting. Am I entering all of the frame rates I would like MadVR to convert for me, or am I telling Madvr what frame rates my display can correctly play back?

My TV is a mid range Hisense 4k set with a 60hz panel, so I'm guessing it's using pulldown to get 24fps. Despite this my Nvidia card lists the available display frequencies at 23, 24, 25, 29, 30, 50 and 60.

So is the best option to enter 2160p 23, 24, 25, 29, 30, 50 and 60 into Madvr and select smoothing to prevent judder?
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Old 8th February 2018, 00:05   #48890  |  Link
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You're entering the refresh rates that you allow madVR to switch to. Smooth Motion works on higher frame rates so if you're running say 60Hz it will activate on that to blend frames and smooth transitions at the expense of motion resolution.

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I'm getting vert stuttery playback on this the 1080p and 720p versions of this file with MADVR, looking at these stats does anyone have a clue why, not having issues with any other of my collection at present. Its better with NGU sharp off and set to lanczos for image upscale but still very stuttery.

General
Format : Matroska
Format version : Version 4 / Version 2
File size : 3.94 GiB
Duration : 2 h 4 min
Overall bit rate : 4 517 kb/s
Movie name : XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
Encoded date : UTC 2018-02-06 08:36:28
Writing application : mkvmerge v20.0.0 ('I Am The Sun') 64-bit
Writing library : libebml v1.3.5 + libmatroska v1.4.8
Cover : Yes
Attachments : small_cover_land.jpg / cover.jpg / cover_land.jpg / small_cover.jpg

Video
ID : 1
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : High@L3.1
Format settings : 2 Ref Frames
Format settings, CABAC : No
Format settings, RefFrames : 2 frames
Codec ID : V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC
Duration : 2 h 4 min
Bit rate : 4 131 kb/s
Width : 1 280 pixels
Height : 688 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 1.85:1
Frame rate mode : Constant
Frame rate : 23.976 (23976/1000) FPS
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.196
Stream size : 3.60 GiB (91%)
Title : XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
Language : English
Default : Yes
Forced : No
Color range : Limited
Color primaries : BT.709
Transfer characteristics : BT.709
Matrix coefficients : BT.709

Audio
ID : 2
Format : AC-3
Format/Info : Audio Coding 3
Format settings, Endianness : Big
Codec ID : A_AC3
Duration : 2 h 4 min
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 384 kb/s
Channel(s) : 6 channels
Channel positions : Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE
Sampling rate : 48.0 kHz
Frame rate : 31.250 FPS (1536 SPF)
Bit depth : 16 bits
Compression mode : Lossy
Stream size : 343 MiB (9%)
Title : Txxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Language : English
Service kind : Complete Main
Default : Yes
Forced : No

Text
ID : 3
Format : UTF-8
Codec ID : S_TEXT/UTF8
Codec ID/Info : UTF-8 Plain Text
Duration : 1 h 57 min
Bit rate : 56 b/s
Count of elements : 1759
Stream size : 48.3 KiB (0%)
Language : English
Default : Yes
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You're entering the refresh rates that you allow madVR to switch to. Smooth Motion works on higher frame rates so if you're running say 60Hz it will activate on that to blend frames and smooth transitions at the expense of motion resolution.
So if I was to enter 2160p 23, 24, 25, 29, 30, 50 and 60 into Madvr then I would effectively be allowing my display to do all the work, is that correct?

As my TV is a basic 60hz native panel, how would you suggest I set up the frame rates in MadVR?
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Old 8th February 2018, 00:48   #48893  |  Link
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You would be allowing madVR to change to any refresh rate that suitably matched your content. 'switch to matching display mode' makes that obvious.
So you either automatically switch to the closest refresh rate to match the frame rate of your content or you keep it at 60Hz and enable Smooth Motion, choose whatever you prefer.
For me motion resolution is king, I'll deal with some jankiness while panning watching animated content.
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You would be allowing madVR to change to any refresh rate that suitably matched your content. 'switch to matching display mode' makes that obvious.
So you either automatically switch to the closest refresh rate to match the frame rate of your content or you keep it at 60Hz and enable Smooth Motion, choose whatever you prefer.
For me motion resolution is king, I'll deal with some jankiness while panning watching animated content.
Yeah, I think I can put up with some minor pulldown motion rather than having everything blended.

So entering all the available frame rates and turning off smoothing should give me what I'm looking for you reckon?

Thanks for your help
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Keep Smooth Motion on, it only enables it when it can use it anyway. If you're running at 24Hz for example there's not enough screen refreshing to generate new frames so madVR disables it.
Should be what you're looking for.
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Keep Smooth Motion on, it only enables it when it can use it anyway. If you're running at 24Hz for example there's not enough screen refreshing to generate new frames so madVR disables it.
Should be what you're looking for.
Of course, that makes sense. Thanks again
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I hope it can add 2d to SBS function,thank you!!!!

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Anyone know of a player that can capture screenshots with the HDR data preserved? From some searching it seems there's JPEG-HDR and RGBE PNG for formats but not sure what the limitations might be.

Edit: I should clarify I'm asking here since I'm currently using MadVR as my preferred renderer for such content and wondering if anything was compatible.

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I'm getting vert stuttery playback on this the 1080p and 720p versions of this file with MADVR, looking at these stats does anyone have a clue why, not having issues with any other of my collection at present. Its better with NGU sharp off and set to lanczos for image upscale but still very stuttery.
MediaInfo isn't always correct. What's the madVR OSD say the frame rate is? I get symptoms like this when a video is really 29.97, despite what MediaInfo reports. Seems to happen mostly with converted TV shows.
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Unique ID : 337065577336944238514229442149036010690 (0xFD9478074F51753B6B4A41DCBD532CC2)
Complete name : E:\Darkest.Hour.2017.720p.WEB-DL.DD5.1.H264-FGT\Darkest.Hour.2017.720p.WEB-DL.DD5.1.H264-FGT.mkv
Format : Matroska
Format version : Version 4 / Version 2
File size : 3.94 GiB
Duration : 2 h 4 min
Overall bit rate : 4 517 kb/s
Movie name : The.Darkest.Hour.2017.720p.WEB-DL.DD5.1.H264-FGT
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