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dorati · 10th March 2009, 23:02

@madshi:
Today I have demux IceAge2 with eac3to v3.14 (-demux).
After Muxing with TsMuxeR to M2TS, the Blu-Ray subtitles Stream are not Sync.
There is a delay of 2 Min 42 Sec. The subtitles are displayed to early...

I did again with eac3to v3.05. There is everything ok.

jamos · 11th March 2009, 01:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by madshi

That is not a proof at all. tsMuxeR might work just fine with DTS and still screw up LPCM muxing. Perfectly possible.

It could also be your receiver which doesn't handle 7.1 LPCM correctly. Or it could be whatever source device you're using. I don't really know where the bug is introduced in your situation. But from what I can see the bug is not caused by eac3to. So there's nothing I can do for you.

Ok thanks, it probably is tsmuxer. But can you tell me the order that you remap the channels by default when you demux DTS-HD 7.1 to pcm using sonic (ie LF = 0, RF=2, etc)? I can manually remap them using switches like -0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7. if I know the order that you remap them then I could just override it to swap the two channels (FR with Center) so it works with tsmuxer.

It is not the reciever Onkyo 806 handles 7.1 lpcm input fine from my Ps3 and sony bd player. I do not beleive it the source either as this problem occurs with 3 different DTS-HD 7.1 sources. Could be tversity but i doubt that.

thanks for any help...

edit: n/m the new version of tsmuxer 1.8.24 can now import 7.1 wav files and it still mixes the Center with the Right Front. Bug is with tsmuxer thanks for your patience. for those using the pcm demux then using pcm2tsmu workaround you can now use .wav output using eac3to and directly import .wav into the new version of tsmuxer works fine with 5.1 sources.

jamos · 11th March 2009, 04:53

Ok got DTS-HD 7.1 to LPCM 7.1 to work with Tsmuxer 1.8.24 you need to swap the center and right front channels when outputing to .wav

ex.
eac3to app.dts app.wav -0,2,1,3,4,5,6,7

then import video and wav files in tsmuxer and mux to m2ts.

all channels play fine with lpcm playback in m2ts file streaming to ps3.

This is a bug with tsmuxer.

Edit: note that using .wav is very buggy still in tsmuxer..it crashes most of the time. am now trying to use .pcm with remapping.

Ok found a workaround: use pcm output but swap channel 1 and 2 then use the pcm file as input to pcm2tsmu to prepare it for tsmuxer. then use tsmuxer and the channels are now correct. until they fix the issue in tsmuxer this will work if you want correctly mapped channels using streaming 7.1 lpcm to ps3.

ex:
eac3to app.dts app.pcm -0,2,1,3,4,5,6,7
pcm2tsmu app.pcm output.pcm -c 8
then use tsmuxer with your video and use output.pcm as your audio..vola 7.1 lpcm streaming..

Thunderbolt8 · 11th March 2009, 09:10

got a problem with a movie, 24fps AVC, 7.1 DTS-HD MA. there are no problems listed in the log at remuxing, but apparently there seems to be a problem with the flac track, when its muxed together with the video its all running at ~2fps and the sound is only garbage. the remuxed video file alone plays fine, so I guess its either a problem of the track (or what eac3to does with it) or perhaps also with mkvmerge. but I went back to mkvmerge 2.2.0 and its still the same. the playing back the flac track alone, muxed to .mka then it has the same gargabe sound as together with the video.

madshi · 11th March 2009, 10:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by dorati

Today I have demux IceAge2 with eac3to v3.14 (-demux).
After Muxing with TsMuxeR to M2TS, the Blu-Ray subtitles Stream are not Sync.
There is a delay of 2 Min 42 Sec. The subtitles are displayed to early...

I did again with eac3to v3.05. There is everything ok.

Argh, so my "PTS -> DTS" hack probably doesn't work. <sigh>

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thunderbolt8

got a problem with a movie, 24fps AVC, 7.1 DTS-HD MA. there are no problems listed in the log at remuxing, but apparently there seems to be a problem with the flac track, when its muxed together with the video its all running at ~2fps and the sound is only garbage. the remuxed video file alone plays fine, so I guess its either a problem of the track (or what eac3to does with it) or perhaps also with mkvmerge. but I went back to mkvmerge 2.2.0 and its still the same. the playing back the flac track alone, muxed to .mka then it has the same gargabe sound as together with the video.

Does the standalone FLAC track play correctly on its own (not muxed into MKV)? If so, eac3to is most probably not at fault.

Thunderbolt8 · 11th March 2009, 11:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by madshi

Does the standalone FLAC track play correctly on its own (not muxed into MKV)? If so, eac3to is most probably not at fault.

cant get it to work in non remuxed form, vlc and mpc wont play it by just normally opening it

well mpc loads it, but does not output any sound, as the playback does not progress at all, but only stalls and mpc crashes then when trying to move the progress bar. same when I try to load it with 'mplayer.exe movie.flac'

madshi · 11th March 2009, 11:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thunderbolt8

cant get it to work in non remuxed form, vlc and mpc wont play it by just normally opening it

Well, do you have madFlac installed? If yes, try uninstalling and reinstalling it...

Thunderbolt8 · 11th March 2009, 12:18

aerf, that fixed it -.- thanks!

HanSolo00 · 13th March 2009, 05:36

Thanks for adding support for 24.975fps. However, when I test on a blank 100 sec audio clip, EAC3TO seems to use 25fps in place of 24.975fps... since the following produces the same result:

100 second WAV test clip
-24.975 -ChangeTo24.000 produces 104.149s of audio (should be 104.063s or factor of 25/1.001/24)
-25.000 -ChangeTo24.000 produces 104.149s of audio (correctly a factor of 25/24)

The exact FPS for -24.975 option is 25/1.001 = 24.975025

Thanks again I love this tool!

Snowknight26 · 13th March 2009, 07:11

Any reason why one of my 1080i60 streams makes eac3to output 'xxxxxx fields' while the other one 'xxxxxx frames'?

Also, would be nice if when demuxing audio, if eac3to can't correct a, say, -9ms delay, it would add -9ms to the file name.

anode · 13th March 2009, 18:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by madshi

Can you please retry with v2.13? I've done a quick and dirty fix by simply copying the PTS value to the DTS field. I hope that this solves the problem. If not, I'll have to do a proper (and time consuming) fix.

Thank you very much for looking into this, sorry for the late answer...

I've checked the problematic subtitle stream again with 2.13, but the subtitle doesn't display, as with DTS fields set to zero. Only with the DTS entries from tsMuxeR it is displayed. It is a graphical subtitle (colored info tables) which contains 3 OD fields (object definition) in a row (normally only one OD field is enough for some simple text). The easy subtitles (text) are displayed, even with DTS zero, so this is not such a big problem, I think.
PowerDVD displays all subs without problems, DTS zero or with PTS copy (2.13).
If madshi or anybody has some more infos about the relationsship of PTS to DTS in Blu-ray subtitle specs, I would be happy if you let me know. From my own findings the DTS has to be a little earlier (smaller value) than the PTS. Some definition fields like PD (palette info) and END always have DTS info set to zero.

0xdeadbeef · 13th March 2009, 20:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by anode

If madshi or anybody has some more infos about the relationsship of PTS to DTS in Blu-ray subtitle specs, I would be happy if you let me know. From my own findings the DTS has to be a little earlier (smaller value) than the PTS. Some definition fields like PD (palette info) and END always have DTS info set to zero.

I'd need some help regarding this very topic as well:
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=145654

DrNein · 13th March 2009, 20:19

FYI, for a minimal install of Burning ROM and audio decoder functionality, I gave Nero Micro another go. After thorough removal of all Ahead data (files and registry), Micro 7.11.10.0 was installed with default audio & video options, then the single file restored from previous install: C:\Program Files\Common Files\Ahead\DSFilter\NeEacDec.dll, and the BD/HD DVD license entered in addition to that for the main package (in this case Ultra).

Code:

eac3to (v3.14) is installed
Nero Audio Decoder (Nero 7) works fine.

So, no need for ShowTime and all that Home and Indexing bloat (or futzing disabling and removing) afterall.

ps3hacker · 13th March 2009, 20:53

Ive just tried to demux Body Of Lies bluray and get these errors.(log attatched)
The bluaray is not a seemless branching movie and is a single m2ts. Also running latest anydvd.

edit I think maybe the disc has mastering errors do to the fact that at the times posted by eac3to as errors, there is glitches in video and audio from the original disk. This is a new movie and is not scratched in any way. I will just return for another

piratburner · 14th March 2009, 10:47

What is this ???? v02 The video framerate is correct, but rather unusual. ???????

C:\BT>eac3to "Transporter 2 2005 1080p BluRay MPEG-4 AVC DTS-HD 5.1-Mike" 1)
M2TS, 1 video track, 2 audio tracks, 1 subtitle track, 15.052p
1: Chapters, 12 chapters
2: h264/AVC, 1080p24 (16:9)
3: DTS Hi-Res, French, 5.1 channels, 16 bits, 2046kbps, 48khz
(core: DTS, 5.1 channels, 16 bits, 1509kbps, 48khz)
4: DTS Hi-Res, English, 5.1 channels, 16 bits, 2046kbps, 48khz
(core: DTS, 5.1 channels, 16 bits, 1509kbps, 48khz)
5: Subtitle (PGS), French
v02 The video framerate is correct, but rather unusual.

C:\BT>

jamos · 14th March 2009, 15:09

Can someone tell me what is the channel order when you convert DTS-HD MA 7.1 to PCM 7.1 using eac3to?

Thanks!

Snowknight26 · 14th March 2009, 19:50

madshi, how hard would it be to implement reading from the other formats that libavcodec handles? Would be nice to be able to decode Vorbis, or MP3, AAC, and more with eac3to. Wishful thinking on my part?

Steel · 14th March 2009, 22:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by jamos

Can someone tell me what is the channel order when you convert DTS-HD MA 7.1 to PCM 7.1 using eac3to?

Thanks!

I don't know if EAC3TO can do it, but wavavimux can.

Snowknight26 · 14th March 2009, 22:07

The channel order should be FL FR FC LFE BL BR SL SR.

DrNein · 14th March 2009, 23:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by piratburner

What is this ???? v02 The video framerate is correct, but rather unusual. ???????

Just because it is 24 FPS rather than 23.976. 24 is included in the BD standard but is relatively rare.

10th March 2009, 23:02	#8521 \| Link
dorati Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 70	@madshi: Today I have demux IceAge2 with eac3to v3.14 (-demux). After Muxing with TsMuxeR to M2TS, the Blu-Ray subtitles Stream are not Sync. There is a delay of 2 Min 42 Sec. The subtitles are displayed to early... I did again with eac3to v3.05. There is everything ok. Last edited by dorati; 11th March 2009 at 01:34.

11th March 2009, 04:53	#8523 \| Link
jamos Hey Now! Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 812	Ok got DTS-HD 7.1 to LPCM 7.1 to work with Tsmuxer 1.8.24 you need to swap the center and right front channels when outputing to .wav ex. eac3to app.dts app.wav -0,2,1,3,4,5,6,7 then import video and wav files in tsmuxer and mux to m2ts. all channels play fine with lpcm playback in m2ts file streaming to ps3. This is a bug with tsmuxer. Edit: note that using .wav is very buggy still in tsmuxer..it crashes most of the time. am now trying to use .pcm with remapping. Ok found a workaround: use pcm output but swap channel 1 and 2 then use the pcm file as input to pcm2tsmu to prepare it for tsmuxer. then use tsmuxer and the channels are now correct. until they fix the issue in tsmuxer this will work if you want correctly mapped channels using streaming 7.1 lpcm to ps3. ex: eac3to app.dts app.pcm -0,2,1,3,4,5,6,7 pcm2tsmu app.pcm output.pcm -c 8 then use tsmuxer with your video and use output.pcm as your audio..vola 7.1 lpcm streaming.. Last edited by jamos; 12th March 2009 at 18:24.

13th March 2009, 20:19	#8533 \| Link
DrNein Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 145	FYI, for a minimal install of Burning ROM and audio decoder functionality, I gave Nero Micro another go. After thorough removal of all Ahead data (files and registry), Micro 7.11.10.0 was installed with default audio & video options, then the single file restored from previous install: C:\Program Files\Common Files\Ahead\DSFilter\NeEacDec.dll, and the BD/HD DVD license entered in addition to that for the main package (in this case Ultra). Code: eac3to (v3.14) is installed Nero Audio Decoder (Nero 7) works fine. So, no need for ShowTime and all that Home and Indexing bloat (or futzing disabling and removing) afterall.

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11th March 2009, 09:10	#8524 \| Link
Thunderbolt8 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 2,197	got a problem with a movie, 24fps AVC, 7.1 DTS-HD MA. there are no problems listed in the log at remuxing, but apparently there seems to be a problem with the flac track, when its muxed together with the video its all running at ~2fps and the sound is only garbage. the remuxed video file alone plays fine, so I guess its either a problem of the track (or what eac3to does with it) or perhaps also with mkvmerge. but I went back to mkvmerge 2.2.0 and its still the same. the playing back the flac track alone, muxed to .mka then it has the same gargabe sound as together with the video.

11th March 2009, 12:18	#8528 \| Link
Thunderbolt8 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 2,197	aerf, that fixed it -.- thanks!

13th March 2009, 05:36	#8529 \| Link
HanSolo00 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 59	Thanks for adding support for 24.975fps. However, when I test on a blank 100 sec audio clip, EAC3TO seems to use 25fps in place of 24.975fps... since the following produces the same result: 100 second WAV test clip -24.975 -ChangeTo24.000 produces 104.149s of audio (should be 104.063s or factor of 25/1.001/24) -25.000 -ChangeTo24.000 produces 104.149s of audio (correctly a factor of 25/24) The exact FPS for -24.975 option is 25/1.001 = 24.975025 Thanks again I love this tool!

13th March 2009, 07:11	#8530 \| Link
Snowknight26 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 1,430	Any reason why one of my 1080i60 streams makes eac3to output 'xxxxxx fields' while the other one 'xxxxxx frames'? Also, would be nice if when demuxing audio, if eac3to can't correct a, say, -9ms delay, it would add -9ms to the file name.

14th March 2009, 10:47	#8535 \| Link
piratburner Registered User Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 61	What is this ???? v02 The video framerate is correct, but rather unusual. ??????? C:\BT>eac3to "Transporter 2 2005 1080p BluRay MPEG-4 AVC DTS-HD 5.1-Mike" 1) M2TS, 1 video track, 2 audio tracks, 1 subtitle track, 15.052p 1: Chapters, 12 chapters 2: h264/AVC, 1080p24 (16:9) 3: DTS Hi-Res, French, 5.1 channels, 16 bits, 2046kbps, 48khz (core: DTS, 5.1 channels, 16 bits, 1509kbps, 48khz) 4: DTS Hi-Res, English, 5.1 channels, 16 bits, 2046kbps, 48khz (core: DTS, 5.1 channels, 16 bits, 1509kbps, 48khz) 5: Subtitle (PGS), French v02 The video framerate is correct, but rather unusual. C:\BT>

14th March 2009, 15:09	#8536 \| Link
jamos Hey Now! Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 812	Can someone tell me what is the channel order when you convert DTS-HD MA 7.1 to PCM 7.1 using eac3to? Thanks!

14th March 2009, 19:50	#8537 \| Link
Snowknight26 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 1,430	madshi, how hard would it be to implement reading from the other formats that libavcodec handles? Would be nice to be able to decode Vorbis, or MP3, AAC, and more with eac3to. Wishful thinking on my part?

14th March 2009, 22:07	#8539 \| Link
Snowknight26 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 1,430	The channel order should be FL FR FC LFE BL BR SL SR.