AMD, Intel and Nvidia driver issues and last recommended version - Page 55

ryrynz · 8th February 2020, 21:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by WuNgUn

Now in madVR, I can't play ANY NGU chroma upscaling without a ton of dropped frames...

Check Nvidia power profile.

VBB · 8th February 2020, 22:49

No difference for me with the latest driver. As ryrynz said, always check that power is set to "adaptive" instead of the default "optimal" after install.

SamuriHL · 8th February 2020, 23:23

Not sure what's up with my system. I did a clean downgrade install to the previous driver and things are back to normal for me. I'll re-upgrade again tomorrow and see if it reoccurs.

huhn · 13th February 2020, 01:21

d3d11?
i see these even with an HD 4000.

edit like this: https://abload.de/img/curroptiony4ksh.png

DMU · 13th February 2020, 10:09

Do all Navi owners have such problems with HDR on the latest driver version as mine?
Video.
Picture.

oldpainlesskodi · 13th February 2020, 10:35

I do, as the AMD API is not sending the BT2020 flag, which is why I have to use the Win 10 HDR Toggle, which forces the BT2020 flag.

DMU · 13th February 2020, 10:52

I meant without the Win 10 HDR Toggle (AMD HDR mode). Previously, the image was a bit unsaturated, now super-saturated.

oldpainlesskodi · 13th February 2020, 10:58

Ah right, you mean driver 20.2.1 - yes, I had to roll back because of that...I did post here about it.

huhn · 14th February 2020, 10:43

so do i get insane or what are there more and more post missing i answer questions of?

Grimsdyke · 17th February 2020, 11:37

So, is it currently not (really) recommended to switch to an AMD setup ??

nevcairiel · 17th February 2020, 12:08

The only reason to even consider that in my book is when you are absolutely set on wanting 3D, can't live with SBS/OU modes to get that, and can't use an older NVIDIA driver either.

mclingo · 17th February 2020, 16:44

the other advantage is native 23,976 support but most people now have had a lot of success setting customs res in MADVR I guess, its nice to have though.

But yeah I guess nobody in their right mind would go AMD right now if they are not using 3D+gaming as we still have no BT2020 HDR flag fix and we've still got a problem with colour space in EVR renderer too, all have workaronds however so i'm still getting plenty of use out of my RX5700.

aufkrawall · 17th February 2020, 21:56

There is still no VP9 support via general D3D11VA/DXVA2 API with Navi cards. I reported this issue to them, nothing happened.
It works with Nvidia since GTX 960 of January 2015, just go team green...
(or use Linux with Navi and live with the restrictions vs. Windows)

huhn · 17th February 2020, 22:06

nev pretty much found the issue. is just special...

nevcairiel · 17th February 2020, 22:32

Yeah AMD violates the DXVA API. Only a little bit, but enough for software that actually checks (like LAV) to not accept it. I'm still pondering if I should try a workaround or just let them suffer.

aufkrawall · 17th February 2020, 22:51

I suppose it doesn't work with plain ffplay either, since it doesn't work with mpv. So it seems there was absolutely no testing with upstream ffmpeg by AMD. Just another indicator in what a lousy state their Windows driver team must be.

mclingo · 20th February 2020, 16:12

AMD users - have any of you tried signing up to the vanguard beta program, I thought I might give it a try in the hope I could open up a channel for feedback on the HDR issues as they should also be affecting gaming, however I made it quite clear I was mainly a HTPC user but suggested that maybe some feedback from this angle might be useful to them. I'm not expecting an acceptance but I thought i'd give it a go anyway as I'm getting pretty cheesed off with AMD right now.

huhn · 20th February 2020, 17:03

this looks like fun.

just look how serious amd is taking this: primary GPU series no option for NAVI.
you can be sure that you are not going to be ignored.

foxyshadis · 22nd February 2020, 09:44

I hope it works, mclingo; for years Intel has been the only one that actually tries to minimize video playback regressions, and even their record is quite spotty depending on who got the ticket. (Which is still something; before then, no one bothered testing video at all beyond "it plays, ship it".)

xabregas · 22nd February 2020, 19:00

So what is the recommended driver for nvidia anyways?

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SamuriHL Registered User Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 5,351	Not sure what's up with my system. I did a clean downgrade install to the previous driver and things are back to normal for me. I'll re-upgrade again tomorrow and see if it reoccurs. __________________ HTPC: Windows 11, AMD 5900X, RTX 3080, Pioneer Elite VSX-LX303, LG G2 77" OLED

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huhn Registered User Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 7,925	d3d11? i see these even with an HD 4000. edit like this: https://abload.de/img/curroptiony4ksh.png Last edited by huhn; 13th February 2020 at 01:24.

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DMU Registered User Join Date: Dec 2018 Posts: 207	Do all Navi owners have such problems with HDR on the latest driver version as mine? Video. Picture. __________________ R3 3200G / Vega8 / Samsung UE40NU7100 Win11Pro 21H2 / 4K RGB 59Hz / AMD last driver MPC-HC 1.9.17 / madVR 0.92.17 / FSW / SM / 8bit

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oldpainlesskodi Registered User Join Date: Apr 2017 Posts: 366	I do, as the AMD API is not sending the BT2020 flag, which is why I have to use the Win 10 HDR Toggle, which forces the BT2020 flag. __________________ LG OLED55BX6LB, Zidoo Z1000 Pro, Yamaha RX-A3060, Polk Signature Fronts & Centre, Wharfedale D300 Atmos surrounds, Polk Signature HTS 10 Sub, DSPeaker Antimode 8033 Cinema

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DMU Registered User Join Date: Dec 2018 Posts: 207	I meant without the Win 10 HDR Toggle (AMD HDR mode). Previously, the image was a bit unsaturated, now super-saturated. __________________ R3 3200G / Vega8 / Samsung UE40NU7100 Win11Pro 21H2 / 4K RGB 59Hz / AMD last driver MPC-HC 1.9.17 / madVR 0.92.17 / FSW / SM / 8bit

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oldpainlesskodi Registered User Join Date: Apr 2017 Posts: 366	Ah right, you mean driver 20.2.1 - yes, I had to roll back because of that...I did post here about it. __________________ LG OLED55BX6LB, Zidoo Z1000 Pro, Yamaha RX-A3060, Polk Signature Fronts & Centre, Wharfedale D300 Atmos surrounds, Polk Signature HTS 10 Sub, DSPeaker Antimode 8033 Cinema

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huhn Registered User Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 7,925	so do i get insane or what are there more and more post missing i answer questions of?

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Grimsdyke Registered User Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: Hannover, Germany Posts: 292	So, is it currently not (really) recommended to switch to an AMD setup ??

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nevcairiel Registered Developer Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Hamburg/Germany Posts: 10,347	The only reason to even consider that in my book is when you are absolutely set on wanting 3D, can't live with SBS/OU modes to get that, and can't use an older NVIDIA driver either. __________________ LAV Filters - open source ffmpeg based media splitter and decoders

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mclingo Registered User Join Date: Aug 2016 Posts: 1,348	the other advantage is native 23,976 support but most people now have had a lot of success setting customs res in MADVR I guess, its nice to have though. But yeah I guess nobody in their right mind would go AMD right now if they are not using 3D+gaming as we still have no BT2020 HDR flag fix and we've still got a problem with colour space in EVR renderer too, all have workaronds however so i'm still getting plenty of use out of my RX5700. __________________ LG OLED EF950-YAM RX-V685-RYZEN 3600 - 16GBRAM - WIN10 RX 5700 - https://www.videohelp.com/software/madVR/old-versions

17th February 2020, 21:56	#1093 \| Link
aufkrawall Registered User Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 1,812	There is still no VP9 support via general D3D11VA/DXVA2 API with Navi cards. I reported this issue to them, nothing happened. It works with Nvidia since GTX 960 of January 2015, just go team green... (or use Linux with Navi and live with the restrictions vs. Windows)

17th February 2020, 22:06	#1094 \| Link
huhn Registered User Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 7,925	nev pretty much found the issue. is just special...

17th February 2020, 22:32	#1095 \| Link
nevcairiel Registered Developer Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Hamburg/Germany Posts: 10,347	Yeah AMD violates the DXVA API. Only a little bit, but enough for software that actually checks (like LAV) to not accept it. I'm still pondering if I should try a workaround or just let them suffer. __________________ LAV Filters - open source ffmpeg based media splitter and decoders

17th February 2020, 22:51	#1096 \| Link
aufkrawall Registered User Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 1,812	I suppose it doesn't work with plain ffplay either, since it doesn't work with mpv. So it seems there was absolutely no testing with upstream ffmpeg by AMD. Just another indicator in what a lousy state their Windows driver team must be.

20th February 2020, 16:12	#1097 \| Link
mclingo Registered User Join Date: Aug 2016 Posts: 1,348	AMD users - have any of you tried signing up to the vanguard beta program, I thought I might give it a try in the hope I could open up a channel for feedback on the HDR issues as they should also be affecting gaming, however I made it quite clear I was mainly a HTPC user but suggested that maybe some feedback from this angle might be useful to them. I'm not expecting an acceptance but I thought i'd give it a go anyway as I'm getting pretty cheesed off with AMD right now. __________________ LG OLED EF950-YAM RX-V685-RYZEN 3600 - 16GBRAM - WIN10 RX 5700 - https://www.videohelp.com/software/madVR/old-versions

20th February 2020, 17:03	#1098 \| Link
huhn Registered User Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 7,925	this looks like fun. just look how serious amd is taking this: primary GPU series no option for NAVI. you can be sure that you are not going to be ignored.

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foxyshadis Angel of Night Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Tangled in the silks Posts: 9,559	I hope it works, mclingo; for years Intel has been the only one that actually tries to minimize video playback regressions, and even their record is quite spotty depending on who got the ticket. (Which is still something; before then, no one bothered testing video at all beyond "it plays, ship it".) Last edited by foxyshadis; 29th February 2020 at 08:39. Reason: removed off-topic warning

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xabregas Registered User Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 121	So what is the recommended driver for nvidia anyways?