ReClock DirectShow filter : try it !

[leeperry]

oh yes, 24fps in 48Hz is freaking smooth...or at least it doesn't hiccup

I play 25fps@50Hz and 30fps@60Hz

convertfps does blending, which looks terribly BLURRY with fast movements.

Reclock forces a perfect timing between A/V, and the 24fps in 48Hz is very smooth......and not blurry at all.

anyway, I was just pointing out that there's no way I could do without Reclock at this point.

of course 24fps is not as smooth at 60fps, go explain to the movie industry that they have to shoot in 60fps then

[TheShadowRunner]

Of course I agree with every word leeperry said.
ReClock is probably the most useful Win32 app ever written when it comes to watching movies on PC.

hagayg, I understand what you try to do in your thread and it's totally nonsense in my point of view. You're altering movie framerate when all you should be doing is match the display refresh rate to a multiple of that of the movie.

I really suggest you download this :
http://reclock.free.fr/ReClock.1.6.dist.bin.zip and take 20 minutes to read the "readme.rtf". They won't be wasted I can assure you.

[hagayg]

Its a matter of perspective, if your eyes can manage with 24fps its your luck , my eyes sees jumpy movie in 24fps, with reclock or without, sync the refresh rate to the fps of course help - as i state in my post, it just that my trick sync it to 60fps because the refresh rate is 60hz.

I wonder if you really tried what i posted, i dont think you did cause you wouldnt say what you just did

[leeperry]

if your eyes can manage with 60fps with blurry blending its your luck

[TheShadowRunner]

Yes, hagayg, I haven't tried your method yet.
I plan to try this weeked.
But I'm still skeptical that adding calculated intermediate frames to make it smoother and match the display frequency (60hz in our case) would be better than matching original framerate to display frequency (ReClock).
I would be very happy if your method shows the same smoothness, but even if it did I think it would kill the CPU on 1080p material for exemple.
See you,

TSR

[hagayg]

My E6750 with 800mhz ddr2 cl4 can run 1080p mkv on 60fps, things is i am not sure it really count cause i dont have 1080p display only 720p , so the player downsize it , but still my cpu sits on 40-45%

[TheShadowRunner]

I tried your findings today hagayg.
Indeed the result is exceptionnal, it's MUCH smoother. (i tried on 24fps material converted to 60 with monitor set to 60Hz). The CPU hit is not dramatic either.
But it seems to me some frames are skipped intermittently.
Also, of course the picture is softer because of the blending between frames.
It's an interesting workaround but Reclock at 48hz gives me the same smoothness without the "soft effect" or "dropped frames" issues.
Still, I think this is an excellent alternative for systems on which ReClock doesn't work.
Kudos for finding that
See you,

TSR

[hagayg]

Thanks

I made some more testing, check my post for the update...

[daWsOn_s]

Hello is there any chance to improve audio quality? I have PAL videos that I want to see in 24p recreating the original tone, with reclock the audio quality is crappy when slowing...is that normal?

[therealjoeblow]

Originally Posted by daWsOn_s

Hello is there any chance to improve audio quality? I have PAL videos that I want to see in 24p recreating the original tone, with reclock the audio quality is crappy when slowing...is that normal?

1) Go into the ReClock folder in your Start Menu
2) Select the "Configure ReClock" item
3) Set the "Resampling Quality" dropdown to "Excellent" (the default is "Medium" which will cause some audible crackling and distortion.

At the Excellent setting, you should not be able to hear any discernable difference, and unless your are using an old Celeron processor, you should not have any issues with CPU utilization too high to cause any system performance issues, any modern system can handle this setting just fine.

Cheers,
The REAL Joe

[therealjoeblow]

Originally Posted by TheShadowRunner

Since:
...But If i interract with the video, using fast-forward or rewind, maybe 2 times out of 10 when the video resumes at normal speed, it will be totally jerky.
I'm *not* talking about tearing, more in details, the "tearing test" will show the line "jumping", although the "vsync on screen" is perfectly stable and there's no tearing whatsoever.
A very easy way to correct this issue is to simply to pause, wait 2 seconds and then resume the video. Then everything becomes perfectly synced again.
What could be the cause of this?
It happens with all renderers (VMR7, Overlay, all VMR9s and EVEN VMR9 Renderless Exclusive.)
It happens will all video stream types, DVD movies included.
It happens under any frequency 48hz, 50Hz & 60hz.

Ogo, is the above issue what you are talking about here:
"You may experience permanent jerky playback sometimes (maybe 10% of the time). Seeking the movie or Pause/Play will solve the problem. This is caused by the video renderer drawing each frame exactly during vertical blank which is not a good idea. This problem is exacerbated with ReClock, because the video renderer will stay in sync with the video card, thus drawing each frame during vertical blank. I don't know yet how to solve this (writing a new video renderer would be a solution but this is not an option !)"

Is there trully no solution to this even as of now? (that Ogo quote is old, to say the least)
How come this problem doesn't seem to bother anyone?

Thanks for reading and here's hoping Ogo still has plans for his wonderful creation. It can't be dead, not just yet, please.
Later,

TSR

I see this happen on my system if I have DirectVobSub enabled (not using ReClock). It never happens if Vobsub is disabled. It's just one of those quirks when you have a filter operating in between the video player and renderer, once in a while the playback gets fubar'd for the reasons Ogo stated in his release notes. It's not unique to ReClock.

[HDT]

Hi, after clicking 'ok' in reclock, I get the error 'cannot change "bypass audio renderer's" status'
Any clues appreciated.
Audio chip [onboard] is realtek hd

[HDT]

After uninstalling reclock and then the video driver to change to another driver, there is a message from reclock after the restart from uninstalling the video driver, that the graphics driver is not compatible with reclock!! But hang on...I have uninstalled you already