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True - Its unfortunate though that its neccesary, as a normal menu selection will switch on the subtitles without having the player configured that way - isn't there a command that will switch them on ?
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Referring to this site's page, if you check Subtitle stream, select stream number, and generate the hex command, you'll still get the same values as what I have posted. When you do the edit in IfoEdit, save, and do a DVDPlay, does it subtitle appear in your Subpicture field in your DVDPlay panel. If so, does the subtitles appear in your preview window? Trying toggling the subpictures. Do you get other subtitles?
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But in that very page you can tick "Force Subtitle Stream on" which gives a different HEX and surely is the answer instead of messing with the players bios.
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And I just did a test - it works !
Set Substream 1 and Force it to play regardless of players setup: 51 00 00 00 C1 00 00 00 (ifoedit calls this "(SetSTN) Set Subpicture Stream: 1(off)") Set Substream (off) - doesn't play unless your player is set to automatically play substreams: 51 00 00 00 81 00 00 00 (ifoedit calls this "(SetSTN) Set Subpicture Stream: 1(off)") In this case ifoedit is right because the stream is set and OFF However the Force command got the same wording and is simply wrong! Thank God for DVDReplica.com !! @2COOL - you can change your guide now
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1. Out of past experience, in at least two DVDs I tried, using "80" instead of "be" did not work. Only by using [51 00 00 00 be 00 00 00] could I have it successfully turned the subtitles, in question, off when playing in IfoEdit and any player I played my backup on. 2. mpucoder posted the info below in the 2nd post of this thread and I highly regard his recommendations. Back then when I corrected the guide, I guess one testing of "be" really worked for me instead of "8?". Quote:
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Re: Turning Subtitle (On/Off) by Default Guide
Yes I know - on checking the "Force" box on DVDReplicas auto-command-generator the command name writen below is correct (on)
Just a shame really the Derrow has the least usefull command in his dropdown menu - the one that doesn't work ! cheers
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I am glad that things worked out for you all finally.
I just want to clarify what said above if the following makes any sense. The instruction bit pattern for SetSTN is as following (non-register mode). You may need a hex calculator to do all this. 51 00 00 Axaaaaaa SFssssss Vxvvvvvv 00 00, where A can be 0 or 1 (1 sets the audio stream on) x is a don't care bit aaaaaaa is a 6-bit audio stream (0-63, 0-based, so stream 3 is 2 here). S can be 0 or 1 (1 sets the subpicture stream on) F can be 0 or 1 (1 forces subpicture stream on) ssssss is a 6-bit subpicture stream (0-31 and only 63 is valid, 0-based). V can be 0 or 1 (1 sets the video angle on if multi-angle) x is a don't care bit xxxxxx is a 6-bit video angle (*note* that this is 1-based, the first video angle is 1). The contents of SetSTN pages at DVD-Replica were verified with Sonic Solutions Scenarist and several DVD players so I am confident that the hex generator did its job. For example (from Scenarist). 5100 0083 c483 0000 (SetSTN audio=4, subpicture=5:ON, angle=3) Hope this helps. |
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A big thanks to 2COOL for this excellent guide. just what I needed and a big thx for the Disabling/Bypassing Unwanted Titles guide too. Both these guides have helped me immensely.
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The discussion of hex has gone right over my head, but I did a test:
-Compiled a project in Scenarist with a pre command setting subtitles stream to 0 and On. -Compiled a project on Scenarist using same assets but with no such pre-command. I instead set the precommand using IFOEdit 0.96's drop-down box settings. The results were 100 percent identical when compared using a file compare app. This begs the question, why the need for hex... |
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OK. I have a headache and give up.
I've used this technique many to turn on and off audio streams as well as subtitles. I have just encountered closed captions that are on by default and I would like to hide them by default. There is a regular English subtitle AND the closed caption. The English sub does not show by default but the closed caption is visible. IFOEDIT of the VTS_01_0.IFO shows SubPicture 1: English (2-bit rle) (ID:0x20, 0x21) In VTSI_MAT Number if sub-picture streams in VTSTT_VOBS 1 Sub-p_01: Sub-picture strean addtributes 1 0 101 110 0 1 sub-picture attribute details: Language type present Coding mode 2-bit rle Language English Language extension [00] Code extension (sub-picture caption) caption/normal size char I did not see anything in the IFOs that looked like specification of the closed caption so I am at a loss on how to switch it off. Thanks |
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When I go the problem, I assumed since IFOs can be changed to enable/disable subtitles, I thought the same was true for CC. That was way off! |
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After doing this with some other movies with no problem I now get and error. I get this error after tring to add a new precommand. It happens if even if I leave it as nop. This pops up when I try to save.
**Update** It was the dvd files that were bad. Last edited by DMagic1; 16th July 2004 at 05:16. |
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Hi, alot of info here. Thank you. When playing a movie like KillBill 1 the subtitle English 1 stream is activated and plays fine but when I DVDshrink it and select that sub stream it doesn't show up even though I have Pre Command...(SetSTN) Set Subpicture Stream: #(Off)...[51 00 00 00 c0 00 00 00] set, I still have to use my remote to select the sub stream. Where else can I modify or set the default sub stream? Where was the option to force them on again?
Thanks EDIT: WWould this work better for me? Taken from dvd-replica.com. SetSTN audio=1 (subpicture=1)n 51 00 00 80 C0 00 00 00
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This is my Pre Command but still when I put the DVD in my player, subtitle are OFF. Damn
SetSTN (subpicture=1)n 51 00 00 00 C0 00 00 00
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Thanks, I'll send you the stuff when I get home but I think the problem is probably the way I have to set my DVD player to have subtitles OFF and for some reason overrides the settings in the re-authord IFO but there must be some other command on the origianl disc that takes precidence over all and displays the subs when needed because Originals play fine. If your wondering why I have my DVD player set to Subtitles OFF is because if I don't then any re-authord DVD plays an English subtitle track if its on the DISC which ofcourse I don't want if there is no foreign language speaking. I might have to come to the conclusion that I need to re-author movies that don't have a foreign language speaking and remove all sub tracks or trancode FULL disc on movies that do.
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