LAV Filters - DirectShow Media Splitter and Decoders

[Mercury_22]

Maybe it's time for LAV tray icons (long overdue) ? Cause I can bet he wasn't using LAV in WMC/WMP but he didn't know

[VictorDUA]

Originally Posted by nevcairiel

I tried playing that file in WMP with both 0.54.1 and it plays just perfectly with LAV Splitter and LAV Audio.

This is my setup (pic 01). If I check AC3 (pic 02), than WMP play file without sound and WMC did not play file at all.

[more2read]

Problem is that when you start streaming a file is created in temporary internet files called 127_0_0_1[1] or similar (yes i'm streaming to the same PC) and the file seem to grow as the video is fed but when it hits 4GB the streams grinds to a halt. no errors, just stops (or well it seems like it actually restarts playing from where u started the stream when the file reaches 4GB).

I have the same problem.

[nevcairiel]

LAV itself should have no issues with file of any size, but its certainly possible whatever you're using to stream the file is causing some problems there.

[nevcairiel]

Originally Posted by Mercury_22

Maybe it's time for LAV tray icons (long overdue) ? Cause I can bet he wasn't using LAV in WMC/WMP but he didn't know

A tray icon is easy, but i bet people also want it to offer at least some functionality.

So lets hear it, what functions should the tray icon offer?

Splitter:
- Options dialog
- Stream changing

Video/Audio:
- Options dialog
- ???

All icons would obviously also get some kind of tooltip that indicates which format and codec is currently in use.

[nevcairiel]

Originally Posted by VictorDUA

This is my setup (pic 01). If I check AC3 (pic 02), than WMP play file without sound and WMC did not play file at all.

I see you have bitstreaming activated, are you sure your audio setup is capable of this?

[wanezhiling]

Originally Posted by nevcairiel

Video/Audio:
- Options dialog

Will not say <inactive>, right?

[noee]

Originally Posted by nevcairiel

So lets hear it, what functions should the tray icon offer?

Will you include an option to make the tray icons optional?

[more2read]

LAV itself should have no issues with file of any size, but its certainly possible whatever you're using to stream the file is causing some problems there.

Live DVB-S Streaming from TSReader, and DVBViewer.
When other Splitters are used, the temp file does not grow.
It's LAV Splitters ability to handle all the different audio streams is why I use it. Workaround has been to record the feed and play in MPC-HC at the same time.

[nevcairiel]

Originally Posted by noee

Will you include an option to make the tray icons optional?

Of course not. It'll be obnoxius and popup balloon tips every few minutes, canceling full screen playback, and the like!
You asked for it!

(I hope everyone turned their sarcasm detector on this morning)

[nevcairiel]

Originally Posted by more2read

Live DVB-S Streaming from TSReader, and DVBViewer.
When other Splitters are used, the temp file does not grow.
It's LAV Splitters ability to handle all the different audio streams is why I use it. Workaround has been to record the feed and play in MPC-HC at the same time.

I have no idea how this whole concept is supposed to work.
If one of you can explain in detail which components interact in what way, who writes and who reads what files, and how the data gets into LAV, i can possibly help you - but without knowing a thing about whats going on, there is just nothing i can say.

All i know is that somehow this temporary file gets created, and somehow the data gets to LAV, but who does the actual writing and reading, i cannot say.
I also have DVBViewer (only with DVB-C/T though), so if you can just explain how to set this up what you have there, that might already help.

[madshi]

IMHO, a nice first step would be just to show different icons for splitter, video and audio, so people can see with one quick glance at the tray section which LAV components are active. The next step would be to open the appropriate settings dialog when double clicking on the icons. These two things should be quite easy. The "final" step would be a left/right click context menu with stream switching etc. But that's probably the most work, and it isn't really necessary to make tray icons useful, so it could be implemented later.

P.S: Development can get "interesting" if your tray icons try to support multiple player instances in a clever way somehow. But I guess it would be good enough to first simply add one icon per filter instance.

[nevcairiel]

Luckily i already have icons in 3 colors!

I have no plans to make this really smart. I'll probably turn them off by default, and if someone really runs several instances, well, their loss. I'll blacklist the icons from common problem candiates like the explorer or reclocks fps guessing thing, so they dont cause random icons to appear.

[madshi]

Sounds good to me.

[noee]

Originally Posted by nevcairiel

Of course not. It'll be obnoxius and popup balloon tips every few minutes, canceling full screen playback, and the like!
You asked for it!

lol, yes, I deserved that! Still working on the first cup.

[Mercury_22]

Originally Posted by nevcairiel

A tray icon is easy, but i bet people also want it to offer at least some functionality.

So lets hear it, what functions should the tray icon offer?

Splitter:
- Options dialog
- Stream changing

Video/Audio:
- Options dialog
- ???

All icons would obviously also get some kind of tooltip that indicates which format and codec is currently in use.

I for one would settle for a "tooltip" and stream changing (for the dumb players) cause the most important part is for everybody to be sure they are using LAV (and so maybe you'll get less false bug reports )

[Superb]

Would be great if you could make a single dynamic icon per single directshow graph. Meaning an icon which includes all 3 filters (splitter, audio, video) and knows which is active and which is not on that graph.

[nevcairiel]

Originally Posted by Superb

Would be great if you could make a single dynamic icon per single directshow graph. Meaning an icon which includes all 3 filters (splitter, audio, video) and knows which is active and which is not on that graph.

Thats not easily possible without launching a process thats shared between all filters (like madVR launches its control process), i don't think i'll be doing this.

[clsid]

Another useful function of the tray icon could be to display a list of all filters in the graph. And access their config dialogs by clicking on them. Very handy for quickly seeing what is going on and opening settings of filters that don't have their own tray icon (or have it disabled).

The splitter could offer Blu-ray title selection.

A few other apps that should be added to the icon blacklist are these video editors: Movie Maker (moviemk.exe), Adobe Premiere (premiere.exe), and Sony Vegas (???.exe).

[filler56789]

Originally Posted by Mercury_22

the most important part is for everybody to be sure they are using LAV

Hummm, at least in the case of LAV Video, an "Enable Logo" option ( à la DivX way ) could look more interesting for some people ^_^

( not to be taken seriously --- I hope )