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9th March 2019, 15:06 | #55241 | Link |
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Hi, just quick question: if you are in the market to spend up to 500,- in a gpu for HTPC only (no games or 3D movies) and get the most from madvr, what do you recomend?. Don't want to interrup the discussion but Im building a new HTPC, and your experience will help me to avoid mistakes. Thanks in avdance
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9th March 2019, 15:21 | #55242 | Link |
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madshi recommends GeForce RTX series.
500 what currency? If 500 EUR and you search for the lowest prices, you can find the lowest priced RTX 2070s for just under that.
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External sound card will help with the noise that's dumping over on analog out if you connect to it via optical if it's usb/ hdmi based input, then you have to make sure that the device has galvanic isolation couplers in its input circuit. The PHYSICAL noise emitted from either the GPU or CPU due to Madvr, you can't do anything about that, except change to a different scaling setting. You can also try using power modes on the cpu which force 100% or 50% peak frequency, which may help. The same goes for the GPU, if you force one frequency, that sometimes fixes the noise.
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for 1080p material, $150-170 used 1060gtx 6gb, Ngu medium chroma, Ngu very high luma, Bicubic 2nd chroma For 2.x : 1 ratio 1080p Ngu high chroma Ngu very high luma, Ngu low 2nd chroma for 4K w/ HDR, w/ highlight recover w/ tonemapping w/3dLut Ngu low chroma Going into the future, 1060 is clearly not going to cut the cheese if NGU is a priority. I'm not totes sure the current higher GPU prices are worthwhile to pump that NGU, because you're really only getting better Chroma scaling on 4K, which you absolutely can not see the difference if the image is moving.. If you have alot of 1080p material, 1060 is more than adequate for that. You might consider a used 1070 for wiggle room.. 1060 will give you a baseline. Everything below 1060 shouldn't be bought at this point. Everything more expensive than the 1060 has QUESTIONABLE benefits. But the benefits ARE THERE.
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9th March 2019, 17:39 | #55246 | Link | |
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The Xonar U7 MkII external sound card arrived. Set it up and no more noise when using madVR. Looks like the Xonar DX don't go well with a GTX 1060.
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But if you're still using copper, the noise might be still there, but the card could have better muting-transistor/detection than your old analog out. Either way, it looks like the xonar mk2 has optical, GO OPTICAL. !!
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9th March 2019, 20:48 | #55249 | Link | |
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4 x 3.5 mm jack (1/8") (Headphone out /Side out/Center-Subwoofer out/Rear out) 2 x RCA (Un-Balanced) Analog Input 1 x 3.5 mm jack (1/8") (Line-in/ Mic-in combo) Digital 1 x S/PDIF out (1 x Coaxial) Errrr Think it comes with an optical adapter, but I still don't get how an external sound card can make any difference, unless its to do with a different headphone port, ah well as long as it is better. Sounds similar : https://forum.doom9.org/showthread.p...89#post1840489 http://bugs.madshi.net/view.php?id=575
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10th March 2019, 01:36 | #55251 | Link | |
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https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img923/3055/QIngq0.jpg Yet for me it's visually more beautiful in 1920 than in 1600 ... |
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10th March 2019, 06:06 | #55252 | Link |
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Trying to troubleshoot something. On my HTPC (Win10x64-1809v2, i7-4820K, 32GB ram, RTX2060, 4K HDR Sony TV) I cant seem to get pans to be smooth even though im withing the render times on a per frame basis. I can disable more things to lower it further and it doesn't seem to improve it. Yes smooth motion is on in the when needed but should be needed her 23fps content and display changed to 24fps. It doesnt show dropped or duplicated frames for how stuttery it is. Previously had the 1060 in there no real improvement going to the 2060.
Ideas on troubleshooting this would be helpful. I have tried: using different decoders in lav filters. Anything other than CUVID just seems worse MPC-HC versions 1.7.13 and 1.8.4 madVR versions 0.92.14 and now 0.92.17 upgraded the GPU lower settings from NGU to superxbr to jinc increasing buffer from 8 to 16 (though im not sure if 6GB vram is enough for this) I have not completely wiped my madVR settings to see if it does it from scratch since I thought I would post here first to see if someone has ideas. |
10th March 2019, 07:36 | #55253 | Link |
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Are the pans even meant to be smooth though? Here's a test, copy your content on to a USB flash drive and play it back through the TV's USB port.
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Is the Windows 10 Focus Assist enabled in anyway? Disable it, including the extra options, just the global disable is not enough. Are you running F.lux?
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I have also tried turning off HDR neither of these show improvement Quote:
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yes these should be smooth. Examples would be in live action Ghost In the Shell when they pan up the buildings to where she is standing. Another would be in the beginning of blade runner 2049 or really any time they pan across a large area. These pans happen in anime very often as well found some good ones in Hozuki's Coolheadedness and Mardock Scramble that I have been testing with. These all are normally buttery smooth but now they have are stutters. Not like the normal judder you'd see displaying 24fps on 60fps screen but more hitching than anything like some frames kind of catch and hang more than others. Quote:
Focus assist is completely turned off no I'm not running that and I have not yet calibrated the TV as I haven't had the time to look into that yet, especially for HDR I always run full screen exclusive on this system since it only has one display and watching is all I will be doing on it. |
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The way you explain it is as if something has changed recently ? https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/new...ring-in-games/
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10th March 2019, 20:58 | #55258 | Link |
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Use D3D11 auto/native in LAV Filter.
Turn off SM in madVR. Match refresh rates using madVR for all resolutions in 2160p only. Add 2 blank folders to madVR install directory named ShowHdrMode and ShowRenderSteps. Link a screen shot of your OSD. Slow pans should be butter smooth with absolutely no hitches in the giddy up at all. No judder, no blur, no dropped/repeated frames. Nothing but bliss no matter the resolution. Opening scene of Cowboys and Aliens or opening credits of The Wrestler are my go to test subjects.
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