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28th August 2013, 21:57 | #12422 | Link |
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Which GUI? There's a couple.
Try downloading a fresh copy of the GUI and installing it in the existing folder. Maybe you lost some dependencies (MSV? etc). Or when was the last time you used it? eac3to is now 3.27 and one of the GUI's had to update (for reasons I can't remember) so try downloading a newer/updated version?
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29th August 2013, 19:03 | #12425 | Link |
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yes, some GUI's might need Microsoft Visual.
I'm not sure, I don't use GUI's. But that GUI seems to have stopped development. It may not be compatible with v3.27. Switch to something more recent and still active like BDClown or UsEac3to v1.0.0. Clown BD: (from first post in this thread) http://forum.slysoft.com/showthread.php?t=25818 UsEac3to v1.0.0: a different GUI for eac3to http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=145574 All other GUI's seem to have died off in 2010.
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Using instead my Media Player Classic HC, version 1.6.8.7417, playback of the soundtrack is perfect. I dunno how to determine what decoding method is being used in MPC-HC. An interesting problem; I have never seen anything like it before, so I wonder what is different about this disc. EDIT: Bah, I played with this some more today, and Arcsoft TMT 3 (mine's 3.0.1.185) does indeed play this disc fine--I don't know what the magic is though. I had looked at it a half dozen times, and fiddled with settings, but today I fiddled with settings again, both the Audio Sound Card/Output Mode settings and the Audio Effect mode, and it just started sounding correct. I can't seem to "go back" i.e. change settings back and get the bad audio again. Sorry for the bandwidth--I don't know what the problem might have been before. Last edited by laserfan; 3rd September 2013 at 23:29. Reason: Well AS TMT works after all--I dunno what's changed today. |
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30th August 2013, 23:43 | #12427 | Link |
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Have you tried 0 or 8? (or even 9)
While playing back in MPC-HC you can go the Menu Bar > Play > Filters and see what is being used to decode (most likely FFDShow; core audio for DTS-HD MA). The previous comments from others largely suggests the process chain has a huge effect on the perceivable distortion yet it does seem to be on the disc itself. Looking at other threads about similar problems, it seems that hardware also has different ways of experiencing the clipping/distortion. If you read the thread about Tron: Legacy, you'll see endless posts about software VS hardware and even the probability of getting just a bad disc from a "bad batch". Although, I've yet to see any hard evidence supporting any such claims of "bad batches" where the audio is malformed. In most cases of "bad batches", the disc itself deteriorates and makes the entire disc unreadable. Or just the transfer itself is poorly mastered (in the case of the UK Boxset for David Lynch where many customers complained and received a newly transferred boxset free of charge upon producing a receipt within a constrained time limit). Tron Legacy and X-Men First Class exhibit similar clipping/distortion, from what I've seen. A most recent extraction of a sample from Tron: Legacy (using Arcsoft versions 0, 8 and 9) indicate the clipping/distortion is on the movie itself, and while others experience it, I don't believe it to be secluded to a single disc or a small batch.
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No. I do have TMT5 and 6 also but they are not installed atm. Can I just swap-in to TMT3 the newer dlls?
To be clear, while I've posted in the eac3to thread, I have not attempted (yet anyway) to convert in any way the DTS-MA soundtrack. I posted merely to say that 1.) Oblivion ripped w/o errors, so whatever problems the disc might exhibit are not due to disc defects, and 2.) whatever problems one might have with the sound are due to the player/playback software, cuz MPC-HC plays it perfectly. I've yet to play the disc on any of my set-top players, but fully expect the sound to be perfect. When I buy a disc, I tend to try ripping it onto my PC in order to confirm it is not defective (and before committing 2+ hours to it in my HT). |
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Is there an option in eac3to to combine a TrueHD soundtrack and AC3 soundtrack into a .thd+ac3 combination?
I have a situation where a .thd+ac3 soundtrack was accidentally demuxed into its separate components and TSmuxer does not seem to want to mux a standalone TrueHD track. At the moment, eac3to decodes the TrueHD track to AC3 and uses that to create a .thd+ac3, but I would prefer to use the original AC3. |
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Are there any known issues with ArcSoft DTS Decoder - version 1.1.0.0 when handling DTS Master Audio, English, 6.1 channels, 24 bits, 48kHz (core: DTS-ES, 6.1 channels, 24 bits, 1509kbps, 48kHz) with v3.27 of eac3to?
I tried a -downDpl -mixlfe and -downDpl and got a stereo wave file in both cases with a ~6dB channel imbalance between L and R and the file doesn't sound anything like what I hear when playing the disc in ArcSoft TotalMedia Theatre 5 having it do a 2 channel mixdown. DPLII mixdown w/ LFE: DPLII mixdown no LFE: I extracted each track to a separate .wav using .wavs and eac3to is correct that the Back Center channel is empty (as shown in the log files below). However, there isn't any left/right volume imbalance in the remaining 6 individual wave files, so I'm unsure why the 2 channel mixdown is off. Individual channels - click for full size: "LOGS": C:\HDTV Tools\eac3to>eac3to.exe i: 1) 3: e:\TempBD\CSH\DTSMA_w_LFE.wav -downDpl -mixLFE M2TS, 1 video track, 2 audio tracks, 1:35:56, 24p /1.001 1: Chapters, 20 chapters 2: h264/AVC, 1080p24 /1.001 (16:9) 3: DTS Master Audio, English, 6.1 channels, 24 bits, 48kHz (core: DTS-ES, 6.1 channels, 24 bits, 1509kbps, 48kHz) 4: RAW/PCM, English, 2.0 channels, 24 bits, 48kHz a03 Extracting audio track number 3... a03 Remapping channels... a03 Decoding with ArcSoft DTS Decoder... a03 Downmixing multi channel audio to stereo... a03 Reducing depth from 64 to 24 bits... a03 Writing WAV... a03 Clipping detected, a 2nd pass will be necessary. a04 Creating file "e:\TempBD\CSH\stereo.wav"... a03 Creating file "e:\TempBD\CSH\DTSMA_w_LFE.wav"... a03 Original audio track, L+R+C+LFE+BL+BR: constant bit depth of 24 bits. a03 Original audio track, BC: no audio data. a03 The processed audio track has a constant bit depth of 24 bits. a03 Starting 2nd pass... a03 Extracting audio track number 3... a03 Remapping channels... a03 Decoding with ArcSoft DTS Decoder... a03 Downmixing multi channel audio to stereo... a03 Reducing depth from 64 to 24 bits... a03 Writing WAV... a03 Applying -14.42dB gain... a03 Creating file "e:\TempBD\CSH\DTSMA_w_LFE.wav"... a03 The processed audio track has a constant bit depth of 24 bits. Video track 2 contains 138004 frames. eac3to processing took 25 minutes, 5 seconds. Done. C:\HDTV Tools\eac3to>eac3to.exe i: 1) 3: e:\TempBD\CSH\DTSMA.wav -downDpl M2TS, 1 video track, 2 audio tracks, 1:35:56, 24p /1.001 1: Chapters, 20 chapters 2: h264/AVC, 1080p24 /1.001 (16:9) 3: DTS Master Audio, English, 6.1 channels, 24 bits, 48kHz (core: DTS-ES, 6.1 channels, 24 bits, 1509kbps, 48kHz) 4: RAW/PCM, English, 2.0 channels, 24 bits, 48kHz a03 Extracting audio track number 3... a03 Remapping channels... a03 Decoding with ArcSoft DTS Decoder... a03 Downmixing multi channel audio to stereo... a03 Reducing depth from 64 to 24 bits... a03 Writing WAV... a03 Clipping detected, a 2nd pass will be necessary. a03 Creating file "e:\TempBD\CSH\DTSMA.wav"... a03 Original audio track, L+R+C+LFE+BL+BR: constant bit depth of 24 bits. a03 Original audio track, BC: no audio data. a03 The processed audio track has a constant bit depth of 24 bits. a03 Starting 2nd pass... a03 Extracting audio track number 3... a03 Remapping channels... a03 Decoding with ArcSoft DTS Decoder... a03 Downmixing multi channel audio to stereo... a03 Reducing depth from 64 to 24 bits... a03 Writing WAV... a03 Applying -9.71dB gain... a03 Creating file "e:\TempBD\CSH\DTSMA.wav"... a03 The processed audio track has a constant bit depth of 24 bits. Video track 2 contains 138004 frames. eac3to processing took 25 minutes, 7 seconds. Done. |
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Each version of ArcSoft has it's own issues:
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Frankly, I'm not sure what's going on... I took a closer look at the channels that came out when I decoded with .wavs. The supposed LFE channel is full range and sounds like a back center channel.
As a sanity check I played the Blu-Ray back from my HTPC through my Pioneer Elite receiver which supports HDMI bitstreaming. It sees a 6.1 DTS-HD MA audio track and there is content in all 6.1 channels, no empty channels. eac3to tells me I have the ArcSoft DTS decoder (1.1.0.0) C:\HDTV Tools\eac3to>eac3to.exe -test eac3to (v3.27) is up to date Nero Audio Decoder (Nero 7) works fine ArcSoft DTS Decoder (1.1.0.0) works fine |
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How are you determining the revision? When I right click on ASAudioHD.ax bring up the properties and click on the version tab I see numbers like
1.3.2.87 1.3.3.127 1.3.3.283 eac3to tells me "ArcSoft DTS Decoder (1.1.0.0) works fine" for all 3 of those versions. Last edited by Stereodude; 7th September 2013 at 20:24. Reason: fix typo |
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I between my various computers I have 1.1.0.0 and 1.1.0.8. I apparently have two different 1.1.0.8 versions though since the file sizes are different and they are not binary identical. |
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Do I just need to change out the .dll to change decoder versions? I'm getting 7 identical channels of corrupted / garbled audio when trying the 1.1.0.8 dll's.
Since I can't get 1.1.0.8 to work, I'll just report the results I got from 1.1.0.0 With just the DTS-ES, 6.1 channels, 24 bits, 1509kbps, 48kHz core you don't get the back center channel. If you decode the full DTS-HD MA, the channel that was LFE channel (with the core) turns into a full range channel. It seems to be the back center, but I'm can't confirm if it's been correct decoded or not. However, the LFE channel vanishes. Last edited by Stereodude; 7th September 2013 at 21:27. Reason: clarification |
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Well, ArcSoft / eac3to can't even correctly decode the 6.1 DTS-HD MA audio so I certainly wouldn't exactly expect it to downmix it correctly.
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