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27th December 2004, 21:55 | #181 | Link |
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I think this new MP3 tab is great.
There is one thing I've noticed with the version of lame_enc.dll that comes with BeSweet (and 3.96.1 from Rarewares too) that I think people should be aware of: For some reason it sets the minimum bitrate for the -V modes to 128, where as the command line version only does this for -V 2 or lower. This means when you try to use a low quality you often end up with what is effectively a 128kbps CBR file. I don't know whether this behaviour is intentional, but I always use -b 32 with -V modes greater than 2 so you end up with lower VBR bitrates like you get when you use the command line version. |
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About cbr Vorbis : I think you misunderstood "Average bitrate" and "Nominal Bitrate" terms.
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Well, AFAIK, Vorbis do not have any working cbr implementation ATM - this codec was not intended to work in such mode. Why do you want cbr, anyway?
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My point is: When encoding true CBR, nominal and average bitrate should be exactly the same. Because if we leave things like bit reservoir out of the equation the encoder assigns the same amount of bits to every frame without considering audio complexity. That's the point of a constant bitrate, isn't it? And that's why I can't believe (given oggenc and ogginfo report correct numbers) 129,794246 kbit to be cbr. If it were 128.1 or 127.9 maybe because of things like bit reservoir. A deviation of 1.7 kbit however, that's definitely too much. I think m0rtal is right: Presently there is no way to actually encode cbr with Vorbis, so there's not much use for the option in BeLight at the moment. Btw: Is there a tool that can show bitrate distribution for ogg vorbis files? That might help to clear things up.
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But please, back to the topic right now. Last edited by Kurtnoise; 28th December 2004 at 11:41. |
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well, actually I've catched a few "bugz"...
- when opening BeLight (BL), old filenames are stored in "Input" and "Output", but actually even if those files already exists, BL don't open them. Is it intentional? 'Couse I often encode files with same names, and it's confusing to have filename completed in "Input" field, but not having it opened... - when overvriting existing file, BL asks questions in French (?!) - main window is placed in the center of desktop - it's ok, but when opening "Advanced Settings", new window is half-off the screen to the right very annoying - if "Input" field leaved unchanged since last time program was closed, clicking on "Advanced Settings" shows all fields unhidden - I mean, some are not grayed out (see first issue) That's all for now PS: Almost forgot... it's good to have "Priority" function - to run process with desired priority (i.e., low, idle, high, etc...) Thanks!
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aaand another one:
"Output Log file" is always turned ON by default, even if unchecked. I can redirect output to screen only by checking and unchecking this option
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it's really confisung... I'm doing a lot of job on my PC and can forgot - did I've already open file or not... if it's opened, why all options are available, and if not - why I can see it's filename already filled? You get my point? No offence meaned
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Hi guys,
Here is 0.21 beta 3 release. Changes from the 0.21 beta 2 : - Updated : CBR mp3 part. It works great now. - Modified : new Vorbis Q-Mode. Tell me what do you think about that....;-) - Fixed : lot of stupid & cosmetics bugs reported by my best beta-testers (especially Brother John and Beiji...10x dudes). Note: - in this release, Multilanguage has been removed temporary...I'm rewritting this part right now. @KillingSpree : I think you can start to write the guide now . If you want some help, I'm here. Feel free to test it...and Happy New Year 2005 !!! |
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Bugs known :
The second issue has been fixed...I'm resolving the first one. |
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The changed Vorbis tab is nice. To make all the encoder tabs look even more consistent maybe intruduce a slider for AC3 and MP2, too?
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