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11th September 2009, 15:19 | #21 | Link | |
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So with "--tune film [...] --psy-rd 1.0:0" you first set Psy-Trellis to 0.15 via film tuning, but then you explicitly force Psy-RD back to 0.0 Maybe you were thinking of the "--profile" option. That option indeed will be applied last and it will overwrite all user settings, if needed to ensure profile compliance... (BTW: The order in which the parameters appear in your command-line is irrelevant)
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20th September 2009, 04:09 | #23 | Link |
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I ran another series of tests, this time setting the --tune film option and --psy-rd 1.0:0.15 to see if anything strange would result. All 3 test files reported, through AVInaptic, -psy-rd=1.0:0.2. What would be the reason for this? And since the other user-set options will override the --tune setting, and I can't turn off --psy-rd through MeGUI (0.3.1.1056), what is recommended when using the --tune option through MeGUI at the current time?
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20th September 2009, 17:23 | #27 | Link |
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Check again, 'cause I have MeGUI 0.3.1056 and I *can* turn off PsyRD ... if by "I can't turn off PsyRD" you mean that you're seeing the PsyRD options greyed out, it's because you've currently selected a too low SubPixel Refinement level (the option right above Psyrd), it has to be at least at 6 for PsyRD to be active.
And when it's greyed out, it is *off* |
20th September 2009, 22:45 | #30 | Link |
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Any individual settings you make override the tune settings. As in the previous example, if you specify '--tune film', which sets the psy-rd to 1.0:0.15, then set the psy-rd manually to 1.0:1.0 (for instance) then the 1.0:1.0 will take precedence. If you are using a gui to automate the procedure for you, its quite possible that you have set different values for psy-rd etc which overrides the settings of --tune. In other words, check the command line and see whats happening!
The --tune presets are just really suggestions of values for certain options that have been known to provide good results for that type of source material. The settings required by 'American Dad' would most likely be different to those required by 'Final Fantasy' for optimal results relating to your preference in the final encode. Aside from issues of gui's overriding the tune settings... Saying that --tune will always benefit the type of material will be like saying 'The sky is blue'. Yes, the sky is blue, but it isn't blue at nighttime or when its cloudy! |
21st September 2009, 00:05 | #31 | Link |
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@talen9: I'm aware of this, however I don't want the option turned off, and it really isn't turned "off" but rather the values set to 0's, which for reasons already made clear to me both by Maestro Mulder above and burfadel below, this will override the --tune options.
@burfadel: I'm also aware of the command order, and so without being able to remove the --psy-rd option (or --deblock), only to change it's values, for now in MeGUI I'd have to set both to the values --tune film is going to set. What's missing in the gui is a "not configured" option where instead of disabling or zeroing-out a setting once unchecked, you would have the option of not configuring that setting at all. Either this or in addition to the "Custom Command Line" option in the "Misc" tab, rename it "Adjust Command Line" which allows you to do both adding and removing commands (the removal of certain ones causing those respective options to be disabled in the gui). Thanks for the suggestions. |
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Thanks for that old and long thread. For me Film is ... was ... something with 29.976 fps (DGIndex / MeGUI anyone?) so I never used that tuning. And until now I never researched it actual meaning
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