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videoh · 11th October 2019, 14:15

You're asking me to steal his code? No, it is not possible.

StainlessS · 11th October 2019, 19:41

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You're asking me to steal his code?

Surely not if you if you comply with the GPL. [ I notice some recognisable code in there, eg Grunt(), I'm sure that Big G dont mind ].

videoh · 11th October 2019, 20:14

DG tools are closed source. I cannot use GPL code without special permission.

StainlessS · 11th October 2019, 21:22

Oh yes of course, my bad.

EDIT: That link you provided for graphics cards, and what to avoid is real handy, I snapped a copy for when I finally do decide to get a decent one.

EDIT: Your post:- https://forum.doom9.org/showthread.p...24#post1887024
Direct link( https://www.studio1productions.com/A...-GPU-Chart.htm ) :- https://www.studio1productions.com/A...-GPU-Chart.htm

MeteorRain · 12th October 2019, 22:24

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Originally Posted by TCmullet

Where in the Nvidia Control Panel do I find that info?

FWIW, I do not consider my card to have been cheap. Has 192 CUDA cores.

You should check your Windows device manager. Under display adapters you shall find NVIDIA Geforce GTX ABC, where GTX ABC is your model.

I have a low end GTX 950 which only has 768 CUDA cores and 2GB memory, and can barely do things.

192 CUDA cores card sounds like a GT710 or 720, which is sold at $25. I'd consider the price point as "cheap". The cheapest card you can get to decode up to 4K HEVC is GTX 950 at about $80, and the cheapest card to decode 8K HEVC is GTX 1650 at about $150.

TCmullet · 15th October 2019, 14:02

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Originally Posted by videoh

Help/System Information. You can also get that from DGIndexNV Video/List GPU Devices.

It's all relative. My card has 4362 CUDA cores. Sounds like you must have a low-end card. Something like a GTX 260?

https://www.studio1productions.com/A...-GPU-Chart.htm

192 is a lot more than the 16 in my other card. And the 192 runs hot and takes a LOT of power. I'd be a bit scared to have 1000 cudas unless they take a lot less juice per unit.

Uh, what am I looking for in system information. Nothing I can see about "cuda level". Make/model of my card in left column and a bunch of stats in the right.

Groucho2004 · 15th October 2019, 14:16

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Originally Posted by TCmullet

192 is a lot more than the 16 in my other card. And the 192 runs hot and takes a LOT of power. I'd be a bit scared to have 1000 cudas unless they take a lot less juice per unit.

Uh, what am I looking for in system information. Nothing I can see about "cuda level". Make/model of my card in left column and a bunch of stats in the right.

So, what model is your card?

TCmullet · 15th October 2019, 14:24

Quadro FX 3800. But one should not have to be familiar with makes/models in order for the Nvidia control panel to give a SPEC (of some sort) indicating what "level" of graphics capability it has. If you can infer the answer from your broad knowledge of the graphics card market, fine (and thank you). But I would, in principle, want to see the answer in the specs.

Groucho2004 · 15th October 2019, 14:31

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Originally Posted by TCmullet

Quadro FX 3800.

No wonder it gets hot. It's still based on a 55nm process whereas the latest cards are now on 12nm (!!). Much less power consumption and therefore heat. A GTX1650/1660 would be a vast improvement with a very good price/performance ratio.

videoh · 15th October 2019, 14:54

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Originally Posted by TCmullet

Uh, what am I looking for in system information. Nothing I can see about "cuda level". Make/model of my card in left column and a bunch of stats in the right.

Well, "cuda level" is not a thing. What exactly are you trying to determine? What features the GPU supports? If so, see here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nvidia_PureVideo

Use the chart to see what feature level your GPU is at and then look at the feature level descriptions. If your card is not listed there, you'll have to search for other similar tables from nVidia and others to determine which GPU architecture your card has.

Anyway, we already know you have a low-end card that does not do 10-bit HEVC.

EDIT: I did a quick search on your card and it has a GT200B GPU which is feature set A, so it belongs in a museum not in your PC.

Groucho2004 · 15th October 2019, 15:11

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Originally Posted by videoh

EDIT: I did a quick search on your card and it has feature set A, so it belongs in a museum not in your PC.

Hm, it depends on how this card is used. It's a pretty good card for professionals who work with CAD software I could imagine.

videoh · 15th October 2019, 15:12

Well sure, but he's trying to open 10-bit HEVC. But you're right, it may be fine for some use cases, although even for those cases modern cards will blow it away.

TCmullet · 15th October 2019, 15:35

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Originally Posted by Groucho2004

No wonder it gets hot. It's still based on a 55nm process whereas the latest cards are now on 12nm (!!). Much less power consumption and therefore heat. A GTX1650/1660 would be a vast improvement with a very good price/performance ratio.

Would it directly work in whatever PC I have the Quadro in? And give me many more cudas? And let me decode h.265 via DGIndexNV?

I did a bit of searching, first to compare 1650/1660. Then search for 1650 on NewEgg. Wow, tons of miserable choices. (Miserable as I don't want a zillion choices to shop through.) Do ALL of these suckers take "two slots"? It looks like they all have 2 "card slot covers".

videoh · 15th October 2019, 16:03

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Originally Posted by TCmullet

Would it directly work in whatever PC I have the Quadro in? And give me many more cudas? And let me decode h.265 via DGIndexNV?

You could easily answer these questions by following the link I gave. To save you the effort the answer is yes to all of your questions.

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I did a bit of searching, first to compare 1650/1660. Then search for 1650 on NewEgg. Wow, tons of miserable choices. (Miserable as I don't want a zillion choices to shop through.) Do ALL of these suckers take "two slots"? It looks like they all have 2 "card slot covers".

They are what they are. There are single-slot cards:

https://www.anandtech.com/show/14494...-graphics-card

MeteorRain · 15th October 2019, 16:11

Single slot options are very limited. On the market you might be able to find a GT1030 like a EVGA 02G-P4-6338-KR but it only has 384 CUDA cores, and can't decode HEVC beyond 4k resolution. But at least it's cheap.

StainlessS · 16th October 2019, 15:14

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Originally Posted by MeteorRain

Single slot options are very limited. On the market you might be able to find a GT1030 like a EVGA 02G-P4-6338-KR but it only has 384 CUDA cores, and can't decode HEVC beyond 4k resolution. But at least it's cheap.

NOTE, there are slow versions of the GT1030 with DDR4 ram instead of the faster DDR5 ram:- https://au.webuy.com/search?stext=NV...Force%20GT1030
Above link has one of each [both out of stock, ie "More Info" shown] at time of posting (£80.00 DDR5, £65.00 for DDR4, I have saved page where DDR4 card was available at £38.00 in the past [2nd user I.T. stuff]).

EDIT: NVidia cards from same site as above link, sorted in low->High price order:- https://au.webuy.com/search?stext=NV...&sortOrder=asc

Where it says "More Info", is out of stock, you can remove by click on "In Stock Only", or here:- https://au.webuy.com/search?stext=NV...list&inStock=1

EDIT: DDR5 version card was released first, then nasty DDR4 card later as el-cheapo version:- https://www.forbes.com/sites/jasonev.../#47baa35393d9

EDIT: And NVidia-GPU-Chart, DDR4 version GT1030 not mentioned (posted by videoH):- https://www.studio1productions.com/A...-GPU-Chart.htm

EDIT: There seem to be both GT and GTX versions of 1030. GPU-Chart might be wrong, describes GTX as 64 bit, however elsewhere says 128 bit, maybe GPU-Chart describes the GT by mistake.

TCmullet · 19th September 2020, 02:32

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Originally Posted by MeteorRain

Single slot options are very limited. On the market you might be able to find a GT1030 like a EVGA 02G-P4-6338-KR but it only has 384 CUDA cores, and can't decode HEVC beyond 4k resolution. But at least it's cheap.

11 months later and I've still not been able to upgrade. However, I now want to very soon. But when I searched and found this for sale, there is no HDMI port. I just bought a monitor which needs HDMI. Can you recommend a card that will support an HDMI port?

StainlessS · 19th September 2020, 09:54

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there is no HDMI port.

What do it got ?

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Displayport to HDMI Adapter, Benfei Dp(Display Port) Male to Hdmi Female Converter with Audio

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Displayport...pcontext&psc=1

EDIT: 1920x1080 max, see lower on same page for several 4K capable equivalents.
eg one of them (plus more 4K on that page):- https://www.amazon.co.uk/Rankie-Disp...d_i=B010SDZZ80

EDIT: Dvi HDMI adapter:- https://www.amazon.co.uk/s?k=dvi+hdm...f=nb_sb_noss_1

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StainlessS HeartlessS Usurer Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Over the rainbow Posts: 10,980	Oh yes of course, my bad. EDIT: That link you provided for graphics cards, and what to avoid is real handy, I snapped a copy for when I finally do decide to get a decent one. EDIT: Your post:- https://forum.doom9.org/showthread.p...24#post1887024 Direct link( https://www.studio1productions.com/A...-GPU-Chart.htm ) :- https://www.studio1productions.com/A...-GPU-Chart.htm __________________ I sometimes post sober. StainlessS@MediaFire ::: AND/OR ::: StainlessS@SendSpace "Some infinities are bigger than other infinities", but how many of them are infinitely bigger ??? Last edited by StainlessS; 11th October 2019 at 21:31.

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MeteorRain 結城有紀 Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: NJ; OR; Shanghai Posts: 894	Single slot options are very limited. On the market you might be able to find a GT1030 like a EVGA 02G-P4-6338-KR but it only has 384 CUDA cores, and can't decode HEVC beyond 4k resolution. But at least it's cheap. __________________ Projects x265 - Yuuki-Asuna-mod Download / GitHub TS - ADTS AAC Splitter \| LATM AAC Splitter \| BS4K-ASS Neo AviSynth+ filters - F3KDB \| FFT3D \| DFTTest \| MiniDeen \| Temporal Median

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videoh Useful n00b Join Date: Jul 2014 Posts: 1,667	You're asking me to steal his code? No, it is not possible.

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videoh Useful n00b Join Date: Jul 2014 Posts: 1,667	DG tools are closed source. I cannot use GPL code without special permission.

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TCmullet Registered User Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 365	Quadro FX 3800. But one should not have to be familiar with makes/models in order for the Nvidia control panel to give a SPEC (of some sort) indicating what "level" of graphics capability it has. If you can infer the answer from your broad knowledge of the graphics card market, fine (and thank you). But I would, in principle, want to see the answer in the specs.