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Old 11th September 2012, 09:32   #15721  |  Link
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v0.41.01, "Men In Black (#1)", Full Backup was no problem to BD-25, but unable to backup as Movie-Only Backup>Alternate Movie-Only Output (DVD-5). Tried both available Playlists (016 Chapters). This is the 1st & only time this has ever happened.

@jdobbs, can you duplicate? Sorry but I deleted all ini files, etc.

- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- AVISYNTH Version: [2.5.8.0], Ok
- HAALI Splitter: [1.9.42.1], Ok
- FFDSHOW: [3882], Ok
- WIN7 preferred AVC CODEC: Ok
- WIN7 preferred VC-1 CODEC: Ok
- WIN7 preferred MPEG2 CODEC: Ok
- FFDSHOW VC-1 set to "wmv9", Ok
- FFDSHOW MPEG2 set to "libavcodec": Ok
- FFDSHOW AVC set to "ffmpeg-mt": Ok
- AnyDVD settings check: Ok.
- BD Rebuilder v0.41.0.1, Ok
- X264: Ok
- AFTEN: Ok
- FAAC: Ok
- MP4BOX: Ok
- WAVI: Ok
- TSMUXER: Ok

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Fyi, I did same for Men In Black II. No problems. Funny how it only happens with MIB I

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Old 12th September 2012, 04:02   #15722  |  Link
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jdobbs, I try to search for answer to this question but I couldn't find any so if I ask, please don't go crazy! If a bluray disc has both 2D & 3D version, will BD-RB be able to back up the 2D portion only?
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Old 12th September 2012, 06:36   #15723  |  Link
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jdobbs, I try to search for answer to this question but I couldn't find any so if I ask, please don't go crazy! If a bluray disc has both 2D & 3D version, will BD-RB be able to back up the 2D portion only?
It can, bdrb ignores the SSIF folder. The menu will still list the 3d entry but it won't start the movie / work. The only time i tried that selecting the 3d option stopped disc playback, selecting the 2d option worked as it should.



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Old 12th September 2012, 18:45   #15724  |  Link
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Almost all discs have pulldown applied -- many blu-rays players have problems with pulldown in BD format (even if you keep the original MPEG-2 source). I'd suggest you make sure you have IVTC enabled (to remove the pulldown) and resize to 720 or 1080 -- that way pulldown doesn't have to be reapplied (because 23.976fps is legal for those resolutions).
As far as I remember from earlier experience, tsmuxer does not support any --pulldown options. I think this is still the case as tsmuxer has not seen any further development since.
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Old 12th September 2012, 19:10   #15725  |  Link
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As far as I remember from earlier experience, tsmuxer does not support any --pulldown options. I think this is still the case as tsmuxer has not seen any further development since.
The pulldown is added in X264. TSMUXER accepts the source with pulldown, shows it as such in its window, and recognizes it as 29.97fps. If there are issues with it's handling pulldown I'm not aware of it. But I can say my Samsung player doesn't play it very well. I generally just use 23.976 via SD_PROGRESSIVE on 720x480 sources if I'm keeping them at SD. Even though it is against the BD standard (so I can't outright recommend it), I've never seen a player that wouldn't accept it.

I should correct myself, though. I said "Almost all discs have pulldown applied..." -- I should have said "Almost all NTSC discs have pulldown applied...

TSMUXER does have an option to remove pulldown.
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Old 12th September 2012, 19:58   #15726  |  Link
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The pulldown is added in X264. TSMUXER accepts the source with pulldown, shows it as such in its window, and recognizes it as 29.97fps. If there are issues with it's handling pulldown I'm not aware of it. But I can say my Samsung player doesn't play it very well.
Yes, it's added in x264 but you may remember that we had some discussion on --pulldown and jerky playback based on various experiments and settings, and at the end the conclusion (suspicion) was that there seem to be issues with tsmuxer (+/- confirmed by others as well) not handling pulldown correctly. I have no proof however, but see also the note here.
Player or tsmuxer -- it seems advisable to avoid --pulldown if possible.
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Old 13th September 2012, 07:34   #15727  |  Link
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I am storing all my movies into ISO rips using a custom 9GB setting, movie-only mode, high-speed option and both encoding un-ticked to enable 2-pass encoding. This results in crunching the movie down in a few hours. I will be storing an HD audio stream wherever possible within the 9GB iso and leaving the rest for video.

Has anyone used this option and compared the results without the high-speed option and highest (very slow) encoding selecting instead? If so, are there big difference in the resulting output or is it only marginal, if at all?

I'm trying the second option and see how long that takes and what the outcome is and will compare it to the original. I just did a run using the first option using kick-ass as the movie input and the output seems excellent. Though, I'd have to wait for this second one to finish to compare the results.

As I have a BDP-93, I'd want the ISO rips to be large enough so I would prefer the better outcome video quality wise, even if it takes many hours longer. My initial intention will not to burn these to bdr-25gb blanks as I want to store my rips into a reasonable size so that I can fit as many onto a 2TB disk without compromising video quality and thought 9GB was a good place to start. I do have an LTO Ultrium 4 backup drive and will instead backups my rips to tapes.

Your input appreciated.

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Old 13th September 2012, 11:35   #15728  |  Link
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a question, HIDDENOPTS.txt file does not appear, or rather, only appears ...
AUTO_BIAS = n n = 0-3
n=4 would use the writing process:work?

AUTO_BIAS=4
ENCODE_QUALITY=4 Quality: Ultra High Quality (Extremely Slow)
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Old 13th September 2012, 13:01   #15729  |  Link
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a question, HIDDENOPTS.txt file does not appear, or rather, only appears ...
AUTO_BIAS = n n = 0-3
n=4 would use the writing process:work?

AUTO_BIAS=4
ENCODE_QUALITY=4 Quality: Ultra High Quality (Extremely Slow)
The AUTO_BIAS setting affects the threshold as to where the decision points are made using AUTOMATIC mode. So if you select anything other than AUTOMATIC, it has no affect at all. But if you set it to a higher value, there is a bias toward using higher quality settings as opposed to lower quality settings. But the decision is still based on frame counts, target size, and bitrate.
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Old 13th September 2012, 13:39   #15730  |  Link
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The AUTO_BIAS setting affects the threshold as to where the decision points are made using AUTOMATIC mode. So if you select anything other than AUTOMATIC, it has no affect at all. But if you set it to a higher value, there is a bias toward using higher quality settings as opposed to lower quality settings. But the decision is still based on frame counts, target size, and bitrate.
thanks for reply, but if I put in bdrebuider.ini,
AUTO_BIAS = 4
ENCODE_QUALITY = 4
would be compatible with each other?
or AUTO_BIAS is limited to (3)



edit rebuilder.ini
[Options]
VERSION=0.42.0.2
MODE=0
AUTO_BIAS=4
ENABLE_TEST=1
BLANK_THRESHOLD=1
DTSX_ENABLE=1
AUTO_BIAS=4
MULTIPROCESS=16
MIN_M2TS_SIZE=1
MIN_PLAYLIST_MINS=1
ENCODE_QUALITY=4
ONEPASS_ENCODING=0
AUTO_QUALITY=0
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=all
SUBS_TO_KEEP=all
SD_CONVERT=0
OPEN_GOP=1
RESIZE_1080=0
DEINTERLACE=1
SD_TO_1080=0
CONVERT_WIDE=0
DTS_REENCODE=0
AC3_REENCODE=0
AC3_640=1
AC3_192=0
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=0
AVCHD=1
REMOVE_WORKFILES=0
MOVIE_ONLY_LOOP=1
REMOVE_OUTPUT=0
USE_FILTERS=0
BDMV_CERT_ONLY=0
USE_LAVF=1
IVTC_PULLDOWN=0
ASSUME_DVD_PAL=0
UNMASK_CHAPTER=0
COMPLETION_BEEP=0
DGDECNV=0
AUDIO_TRACK_LIMIT=0
SUBTITLE_TRACK_LIMIT=0
CUSTOM_TARGET_SIZE=24925
PRIORITY_CLASS=1
QUICK_EXTRAS=0
AUTO_BURN=0
TARGET_SIZE=24925
ENABLE_BLANKING=1




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Old 13th September 2012, 17:32   #15731  |  Link
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hello boys BDrebuild 0.42.0.1 does not make the crop
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Old 13th September 2012, 18:49   #15732  |  Link
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Hi!

The purpose of this thread is specifically to bring to light bugs that arise during beta testing, so that jdobbs can resolve them.

You should feel free to start a new thread for postings of other questions and/or observations regarding BDRebuilder...
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Old 13th September 2012, 19:10   #15733  |  Link
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hello boys BDrebuild 0.42.0.1 does not make the crop
Please make bug report for the latest version.
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Old 13th September 2012, 19:26   #15734  |  Link
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I think I'm missing something in the options. With the new Importing method, I noticed using the SD_PROGRESSIVE that 29 does get changed to 23.976...no re-rendering for 720x480 sources. Video is still jerky via LG Player and software. Would it be possible to add a re-render feature that keeps the same resolution to get a smooth output (SD to SD with Pulldown)? Or are there options I'm not using correctly, or a combination? The SD to 720p does look Good, but I'd rather keep the same 720x480 with a 2 pass encode.

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Old 13th September 2012, 21:55   #15735  |  Link
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I think I'm missing something in the options. With the new Importing method, I noticed using the SD_PROGRESSIVE that 29 does get changed to 23.976...no re-rendering for 720x480 sources. Video is still jerky via LG Player and software. Would it be possible to add a re-render feature that keeps the same resolution to get a smooth output (SD to SD with Pulldown)? Or are there options I'm not using correctly, or a combination? The SD to 720p does look Good, but I'd rather keep the same 720x480 with a 2 pass encode.

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Does BD Rebuilder tell you it is IVTC'd in the log? If not, then the source isn't using pulldown or you haven't told BD-RB to IVTC in SETUP. That is required to output to 23.976.

But... if both of those are set, and it doesn't IVTC -- then the source isn't pulldown and it can't be output as FILM (23.976). In that case then if it is jumpy, then either the original or your players are at fault.

If you don't want to IVTC, then just uncheck those two and let BD-RB reencode at 29.97. I'd also suggest you use the DEINTERLACE option. Those settings are the default in BD-RB. If you are experiencing jerkiness with the defaults set -- you'd better check on your players -- because the jerkiness isn't coming from the processing.

Just as a note... I'm POSITIVE the IVTC/SD_PROGRESSIVE combination is working correctly. All 45+ of the DVDs I've converted in testing worked correctly using those options and they all used pulldown.
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Old 13th September 2012, 22:15   #15736  |  Link
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BD Rebuilder v0.42.03 (beta)

I have updated the first post of this thread with links to a new release of BD-RB (v0.42.03). Changes for this version:
Code:
- Added code to correct for the occasional audio 
  PTS start delta during DVD importing.
- Corrected an issue in which the framerate for
  imported PAL DVDs could be incorrectly pulled
  from the source IFO files.  This would result
  in audio sync issues.
- Made changes to video file import so that DTS-HD,
  TRUE-HD, and LPCM sources are properly handled in
  .TS and .M2TS files.
- Corrected an error in which importing .TS files
  will fail during attempt to create BD structure.
- Other minor corrections and cosmetic fixes.
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Old 13th September 2012, 22:18   #15737  |  Link
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I wasn't doubting you. No intention was meant that way. Doing some tests. Thanks a lot for the reply.

Ah, sheeeot....hahaha, I forgot about the sizes...I haven't used the custom sizing for a bit. Since episodes are about 42 minutes, the file size has to be taken into account. Laughing at myself!! Got it.
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Old 14th September 2012, 16:49   #15738  |  Link
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Latest version still produces 4:3 output from PAL DVDs. Audio is in sync.

Quote:
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[16:49:07] Importing DVD: TIGGER_MOVIE
- Collecting audio/video/subtitle streams...
- Converting subtitles to BD format...
- Creating BD from audio/video/subtitles...
[17:00:19] DVD import completed successfully.
----------------------
[09-14-12] BD Rebuilder v0.42.03 (beta)
[17:04:58] Source: TIGGER_MOVIE_PLAYLIST_00000
- Input BD size: 4,45 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:13:57.960]
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- MOVIE-ONLY/ALTERNATE OUTPUT mode enabled
- Mode: MKV Container, 1280x720, 448Kbs DD5.1
- Decoding/Frame serving: DirectShow
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=0 Kbs=640
[17:04:58] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [17:04:58] Processing: VID_00000 (1 of 1)
- [17:04:58] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00000]
- [17:07:13] Reencoding video [VID_00000]
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x576
- Rate/Length: 25,000fps, 110*949 frames
- [17:07:13] Reencoding: VID_00000, Pass 1 of 1
- [17:19:38] Video Encode complete
- [17:19:38] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4354 (swe): Keeping original audio
[17:19:43]PHASE ONE complete
[17:19:43]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [17:19:43] Building ALTERNATE OUTPUT Structure
[17:20:01] - Encode and Rebuild complete
[17:20:01] JOB: TIGGER_MOVIE finished.
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[Status]
LABEL=TIGGER_MOVIE
VERSION=v0.42.03 (beta)
SOURCE_SIZE=4780314624
SOURCE_VIDEO_SIZE=4780314624
TARGET_SIZE=4686086144
REDUCTION=.980288226317381
RESIZE_1080=0
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;swe;
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=0
SUBS_TO_KEEP=eng;swe;
BACKUP_MODE=1
MOVIEONLY_TYPE=8
USE_LAVF=0
INSTANCES=1
DGDECNV=0
QUICK=0
ENCODE_STEP=0
COMPLETED=1
REBUILD_COMPLETE=1
[00000]
AUDIO=001000
PGS=00000000
VIDEO2=0
V2MBRATE=0
M2TS_TARGET=4686086144
SPLITS=1
NSIZE=0
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
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Code:
[17:14:40] Importing DVD: COUGARS_INC
 - Collecting audio/video/subtitle streams...
 - Converting subtitles to BD format...
 - Creating BD from audio/video/subtitles...
[17:18:59] DVD import completed successfully.
----------------------
[09/14/12] BD Rebuilder v0.42.03 (beta)
[18:26:01] Source:  COUGARS_INC
  - Input BD size: 0,00 GB
  - Approximate total content: [01:18:38.912]
  - Target BD size: 22,95 GB
  - Windows Version: 6.0 [6002]
  - MOVIE and MENUS mode enabled
  - Auto Quality: Good (Very Fast), ABR
  - Decoding/Frame serving: DGDecNV [2-way]
  - Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
 - [18:26:01] DoEncoding() 00011  1502
[18:26:05] - Failed to complete.
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Using x264 LAVF was able to start the encoding itself
Code:
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[09/14/12] BD Rebuilder v0.42.03 (beta)
[18:26:20] Source:  COUGARS_INC
  - Input BD size: 4,22 GB
  - Approximate total content: [01:18:38.912]
  - Target BD size: 22,95 GB
  - Windows Version: 6.0 [6002]
  - MOVIE and MENUS mode enabled
  - Auto Quality: Good (Very Fast), ABR
  - Decoding/Frame serving: X264/LAVF [2-way]
  - Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
[18:26:20] PHASE ONE, Encoding
 - [18:26:20] Processing: VID_00000 (1 of 1)
 - [18:26:20] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00000]
 - [18:27:28] Reencoding video [VID_00000]
 - [18:27:28] Keeping original video (no reencode)
 - [18:27:28] Processing audio tracks
   - Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
   - Track 4353 (eng): Keeping original audio
 - [18:27:28] Multiplexing M2TS
[18:30:21]PHASE ONE complete
[18:30:21]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
 - [18:30:21] Rebuilding BD file Structure
[18:30:21] - Encode and Rebuild complete
[18:30:21] Writing BD structure to ISO file
 - ImgBurn completed successfully
 - COUGARS_INC folder removed.
 - WORKFILES folder removed.
[18:32:49] JOB: COUGARS_INC finished.
However the subtitles were not present in the encode while they were selected in the window, **edit** i mean they were selectable in TMT5, but did not show up. Checked the original source and on the DVD they worked

Code:
[Options]
MODE=1
ENCODE_QUALITY=0
ONEPASS_ENCODING=2
AUTO_QUALITY=1
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=dut;eng;nld;und;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=dut;eng;nld;und;
SD_CONVERT=0
COLOR_BOOST=0
RESIZE_1080=0
DEINTERLACE=0
DTS_REENCODE=0
AC3_REENCODE=0
AC3_640=1
AC3_192=0
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=1
AVCHD=0
REMOVE_WORKFILES=1
FULL_AVCHD=0
REMOVE_OUTPUT=1
AUDIO_TRACK_LIMIT=0
SUBTITLE_TRACK_LIMIT=0
CUSTOM_TARGET_SIZE=23450
PRIORITY_CLASS=1
TARGET_SIZE=23500
AUTO_BURN=2
IMGBURN_TARGET_DEVICE=e:
QUICK_EXTRAS=1
MINIMIZE_TO_TRAY=1
OPEN_GOP=0
MOVIE_ONLY_LOOP=1
USE_FILTERS=0
USE_LAVF=1
VERBOSE_STATUS=1
BDMV_CERT_ONLY=1
IVTC_PULLDOWN=1
ASSUME_DVD_PAL=0
SD_TO_1080=0
CONVERT_WIDE=0
AUTO_BLANK=0
UNMASK_CHAPTER=1
ENABLE_TEST=1
ENABLE_BLANKING=1
BLANK_THRESHOLD=60
DTSX_ENABLE=1
MULTIPROCESS=1
VERSION=0.42.0.3
COMPLETION_BEEP=1
BEEP_SOUNDFILE=C:\Program Files (x86)\ImgBurn\Sounds\Success.wav
DGDECNV=0
IMPORT_FOLDER=D:\TEMP
[Paths]
WORKING_PATH=C:\TEMP\
SOURCE_PATH=D:\TEMP\IMPORTS\COUGARS_INC\
DGIndexNV=C:\Program Files (x86)\BD_Rebuilder\dgdecnv\DGIndexNV.exe
DGDecNV=C:\Program Files (x86)\BD_Rebuilder\dgdecnv\DGDecodeNV.dll

[Status]
LABEL=COUGARS_INC
VERSION=v0.42.03 (beta)
SOURCE_SIZE=4527117420
SOURCE_VIDEO_SIZE=4527034368
TARGET_SIZE=24641536000
REDUCTION=5.44317779475714
RESIZE_1080=0
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=dut;eng;nld;und;
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=-1
SUBS_TO_KEEP=dut;eng;nld;und;
BACKUP_MODE=0
MOVIEONLY_TYPE=0
USE_LAVF=-1
INSTANCES=2
DGDECNV=0
QUICK=1
ENCODE_STEP=0
COMPLETED=1
REBUILD_COMPLETE=1
[00000]
USE_ORIGINAL=1
AUDIO=11
PGS=1
VIDEO2=0
V2MBRATE=0
M2TS_TARGET=24641452948
NSTART=27000000
NEND=239351040
NSIZE=4527034368
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
** edit ** also noticed something from the Source path textbox. Seems like the path gets truncated. I have a rip on "Z:\Blu-Ray\Double Layer\DTS-E\UNDERWORLD_RISE_OF_THE_LYCANS" however the path gets truncated to "Z:\Blu-Ray\Double".

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When converting a DVD to Blu-ray is there any way to stop it from converting all the subtitles and only convert the ones you want to keep? Some of my DVD's have 15+ subtitle tracks which takes around 8 minutes to convert when I only want to keep 1 of them
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