MPEG-4 AVC/H.264 video codecs list - Page 2

DmitriyV2 · 24th June 2005, 21:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by Keng!

Hi! Great to hear that the comparison is coming back for 2nd round! Here is my suggestion, how about include the codecs's compressibility and performance (speed) in the comparison?
Coz in the last comparison, only the codecs's quality is tested. In my opinion, the compressibility and performance also is an important part of the codec (also the part we interested, besides quality).

Absolutely. Previous time codecs realy was not enough ready. Now situation was changed.

Quote:

In the last comparison, you guys said is too early to test the codecs's compatibility, so how about this time? In last comparison, Ateme MPEG-4 AVC/H.264 beat all the codecs who took part, let see what will happens this time when x264 kick in!

Maybe.

In MP3 audio codecs area we see such situation with Lame codec.

b_x20852 · 27th June 2005, 16:34

to DmitriyV2:

That's a pretty good job you've done with the list!

Just FYI: Thomson ViBE is a modular hardware series of encoders (not a software!)

You may also add some more hardware encoders:

SkyStream Mediaplex & iPlex platforms contain the AVC Encoder Submodule now

StreamTel E42-H264

Darim MV401EXP-H264 Encoder and MV410EXP Decoder

Mayah I [io] 8000 series - right now Mayah supports only MPEG-4 ASP but showed the H.264/AVC prototype at the NAB 2005, and plans to announce the AVC availability in Q3 '05.

Thales ARGOS MPEG-4 Encoder - was said to be available for sale with AVC feature in July.

JohnV · 27th June 2005, 17:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by DmitriyV2

Ateme H.264/MPEG-4 AVC Codec (Ateme)
No download on original site:
http://www.ateme.com/products/h264.php
See Nero Recode from ftp://ftp.nero.com/
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There's 30 day free trial download of Nero Digital available:
http://www.nerodigital.com/eng/index.html

dand · 27th June 2005, 18:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by bond

the moonlight/elecard encoder is the same (defacto these two companies are only one company)

Not any more. Elecard team has been taken over by MainConcept. See here.

Keng! · 28th June 2005, 06:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnV

There's 30 day free trial download of Nero Digital available:
http://www.nerodigital.com/eng/index.html

Does this meant that Nero Recode will separate from the NeroVision Express series? And NeroVision Express will not longer available? Or Nero Recode will included in both Nero Digital CE & Nero 6 Reloaded?

JohnV · 28th June 2005, 09:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by Keng!

Does this meant that Nero Recode will separate from the NeroVision Express series? And NeroVision Express will not longer available? Or Nero Recode will included in both Nero Digital CE & Nero 6 Reloaded?

Recode will be included in both packages.

DmitriyV2 · 28th June 2005, 16:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by b_x20852

That's a pretty good job you've done with the list!
Just FYI: Thomson ViBE is a modular hardware series of encoders (not a software!)
You may also add some more hardware encoders: ...

Big thanks! I update list.
It's looks like number of companies on this market grows faster than I think!

http://www.compression-links.info/MPEG-4_AVC_H264 also updated

DmitriyV2 · 28th June 2005, 16:33

New software solution added:

Compression Master 3 (Popwire/Teleca AB) NEW!!!
H264 encoder is all a part of Popwire's Compression Master. Demo soft available (encoding is limited to 20 seconds).
http://www.popwire.com/product_info....&products_id=2

yaz · 29th June 2005, 09:01

@johnv
thx for the info ! sg really promising !

some questions :
- do i need showtime for playback or does recode install playback support available for othar players ?
- how's this recode relate to that just under beta testing ? would that be also available as a separate pack ?
- i found some strange on the trailer page. 'portable' defines as 352x288/512kbps/2.51Mb. instead sg of 5.2Mb size downloads and neither the resolution nor the bitrate meets the info. and the file generates runtime error about 95%.

thx again
y

JohnV · 29th June 2005, 18:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by yaz

@johnv
thx for the info ! sg really promising !

some questions :
- do i need showtime for playback or does recode install playback support available for othar players ?
- how's this recode relate to that just under beta testing ? would that be also available as a separate pack ?
- i found some strange on the trailer page. 'portable' defines as 352x288/512kbps/2.51Mb. instead sg of 5.2Mb size downloads and neither the resolution nor the bitrate meets the info. and the file generates runtime error about 95%.

thx again
y

Well I'd need to verify what filters exactly the new Recode CE package installs, but I'd be surprised if you don't need to install Showtime for playback filters. I'll check this soon.
But in principle you don't need Showtime at all, if you install the latest ffdshow (and enable h.264 and aac decoding in ffdshow) and Haali Media Splitter (MatroskaSplitter). FFdshow shows ND subtitles somewhat strangely, but if you install the latest VSFilter, subtitles look ok. Hopefully ffdshow subtitle rendering will become better so you don't need even VSFilter anymore. That way you can have a free decoder and support for Nero Digital chapters,subtitles and multiple audio streams with any Dshow player.

Ateme provides the video coder for Nero Digital. The updated Ateme coder under beta testing will be included in Recode.

yaz · 30th June 2005, 08:35

@johnv
thx for the answers ! i used the filters u suggested for playing back the trailers and everything worked fine.
maybe u know the very last ffdshow build from celtic_druid supports cqm and the deblocking part of h264 is also improved.
yep ... the subtitle part is a bit ... fuky ... in ffdshow but vsfilter is ok.

would u also take care of that broken trailer. what's linked as 'portable' is a broken version of the 'standard', my 1 bit.

thx
y

DmitriyV2 · 7th July 2005, 21:39

Intel IPP added. Good quality promised in future 5.0 version
Last year samples for July 2004 (we try to compile them - in early stage now) available from:
http://www.intel.com/cd/software/pro...ipp/220043.htm

DmitriyV2 · 19th July 2005, 22:26

Added:
Sentivision H.264/AVC Decoder (Sentivision, Japan)
Chip with 264 HD decoding
http://www.sentivision.com/products/h264/h264-en.html
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Gusto · 20th July 2005, 10:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by DmitriyV2

Added:
Sentivision H.264/AVC Decoder (Sentivision, Japan)
Chip with 264 HD decoding

Well, this one is optimized only for TI TMS320C64x family, and still, this is only the decoder.

DmitriyV2 · 20th July 2005, 11:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gusto

Well, this one is optimized only for TI TMS320C64x family, and still, this is only the decoder.

Sure, I note this point in list more clearly now.

Gusto · 20th July 2005, 15:46

Well, I kinda said it's "optimized only for TI TMS320C64x" and not "exists only for TI TMS320C64x". You can still run in under Windows/Linux/whatever with reasonable speeds (and full set of MP features)
Sorry for the misunderstanding

DmitriyV2 · 21st July 2005, 13:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gusto

Well, I kinda said it's "optimized only for TI TMS320C64x" and not "exists only for TI TMS320C64x". You can still run in under Windows/Linux/whatever with reasonable speeds (and full set of MP features)
Sorry for the misunderstanding

Ok! I wrote - "Optmized for TI DSP's"

As I see they have another TI chip optimization. Also IMHO there Windows version will have no big advantages (they did not declare such optimization).

DmitriyV2 · 5th September 2005, 00:21

List update:
+ ATI
+ WWCom
+ NEX Vision
direct link: http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.ph...420#post673420

49 list items now.

Enjoy!

bond · 5th September 2005, 12:28

wow really a fucking great list! thx again!

btw "(Einige Fakten)" next to the free avc decoder means "some facts", you might want to remove this from the implementations name

DmitriyV2 · 5th September 2005, 12:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by bond

wow really a fucking great list! thx again!

btw "(Einige Fakten)" next to the free avc decoder means "some facts", you might want to remove this from the implementations name

))) Change to "by Martin Fiedler"

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b_x20852 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: USA Posts: 5	to DmitriyV2: That's a pretty good job you've done with the list! Just FYI: Thomson ViBE is a modular hardware series of encoders (not a software!) You may also add some more hardware encoders: SkyStream Mediaplex & iPlex platforms contain the AVC Encoder Submodule now StreamTel E42-H264 Darim MV401EXP-H264 Encoder and MV410EXP Decoder Mayah I [io] 8000 series - right now Mayah supports only MPEG-4 ASP but showed the H.264/AVC prototype at the NAB 2005, and plans to announce the AVC availability in Q3 '05. Thales ARGOS MPEG-4 Encoder - was said to be available for sale with AVC feature in July. Last edited by b_x20852; 27th June 2005 at 17:09.

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DmitriyV2 MSU G&M Lab Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: MSU G&M Lab Posts: 318	New software solution added: Compression Master 3 (Popwire/Teleca AB) NEW!!! H264 encoder is all a part of Popwire's Compression Master. Demo soft available (encoding is limited to 20 seconds). http://www.popwire.com/product_info....&products_id=2 __________________ With regards Dmitriy Vatolin www.compression.ru/video/ (Last updates: MSU Video Quality Metric 10.1 - faster&more useful)

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DmitriyV2 MSU G&M Lab Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: MSU G&M Lab Posts: 318	Intel IPP added. Good quality promised in future 5.0 version Last year samples for July 2004 (we try to compile them - in early stage now) available from: http://www.intel.com/cd/software/pro...ipp/220043.htm __________________ With regards Dmitriy Vatolin www.compression.ru/video/ (Last updates: MSU Video Quality Metric 10.1 - faster&more useful)

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DmitriyV2 MSU G&M Lab Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: MSU G&M Lab Posts: 318	Added: Sentivision H.264/AVC Decoder (Sentivision, Japan) Chip with 264 HD decoding http://www.sentivision.com/products/h264/h264-en.html --- __________________ With regards Dmitriy Vatolin www.compression.ru/video/ (Last updates: MSU Video Quality Metric 10.1 - faster&more useful)

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DmitriyV2 MSU G&M Lab Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: MSU G&M Lab Posts: 318	List update: + ATI + WWCom + NEX Vision direct link: http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.ph...420#post673420 49 list items now. Enjoy! __________________ With regards Dmitriy Vatolin www.compression.ru/video/ (Last updates: MSU Video Quality Metric 10.1 - faster&more useful)

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yaz n00b ever Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 627	@johnv thx for the info ! sg really promising ! some questions : - do i need showtime for playback or does recode install playback support available for othar players ? - how's this recode relate to that just under beta testing ? would that be also available as a separate pack ? - i found some strange on the trailer page. 'portable' defines as 352x288/512kbps/2.51Mb. instead sg of 5.2Mb size downloads and neither the resolution nor the bitrate meets the info. and the file generates runtime error about 95%. thx again y

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yaz n00b ever Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 627	@johnv thx for the answers ! i used the filters u suggested for playing back the trailers and everything worked fine. maybe u know the very last ffdshow build from celtic_druid supports cqm and the deblocking part of h264 is also improved. yep ... the subtitle part is a bit ... fuky ... in ffdshow but vsfilter is ok. would u also take care of that broken trailer. what's linked as 'portable' is a broken version of the 'standard', my 1 bit. thx y

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Gusto Registered User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Warsaw, Poland Posts: 8	Well, I kinda said it's "optimized only for TI TMS320C64x" and not "exists only for TI TMS320C64x". You can still run in under Windows/Linux/whatever with reasonable speeds (and full set of MP features) Sorry for the misunderstanding

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bond Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 9,770	wow really a fucking great list! thx again! btw "(Einige Fakten)" next to the free avc decoder means "some facts", you might want to remove this from the implementations name __________________ Between the weak and the strong one it is the freedom which oppresses and the law that liberates (Jean Jacques Rousseau) I know, that I know nothing (Socrates) MPEG-4 ASP FAQ \| AVC/H.264 FAQ \| AAC FAQ \| MP4 FAQ \| MP4Menu stores DVD Menus in MP4 (guide) Ogg Theora \| Ogg Vorbis use WM9 today and get Micro$oft controlling the A/V market tomorrow for free

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