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huhn · 13th August 2020, 19:33

looks like your Fiio E12 is a good device.

Alexkral · 13th August 2020, 19:51

Yes it is, and also durable, I think I bought it in 2013.

doffen · 14th August 2020, 12:53

I'm having issues with changing display modes automatically with profiles.
Does anyone know if there is any bugs with this?

With no profiles madVR changes display modes as expected, but when i set up profiles it doesn't.
The correct profile is marked with bold text in madVR settings, so I believe the correct profile is selected, but it doesn't do anything.

My profile rule is simple:

Quote:

if (hdr) "hdr"
else "sdr"

and the selected displaymodes is:

Quote:

hdr
2160p23

sdr
2160p29, 2160p30, 2160p50 2160p60

Has anyone experienced anything similar?

huhn · 14th August 2020, 13:29

why would you use a profile for this?
leave the display mode out of it.

richardsim7 · 14th August 2020, 13:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by *MidnightWatcher*

I'd love to see Madshi release a customized version of KODI that works with madVR. Madshi and company could fork their own KODI version and provide it for free (open source) and I'd be happy to buy a license for his madVR software. As it stands today, he is making $0 from the 99% of us who will never, ever be able to afford Envy, but I'm thinking he could create a revenue stream from those of us willing to purchase a license (basic? standard? advanced? And monthly? annually? lifetime one-time purchase?) to use madVR.

https://forum.kodi.tv/showthread.php?tid=351534

*MidnightWatcher* · 14th August 2020, 15:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by richardsim7

https://forum.kodi.tv/showthread.php?tid=351534

That's what I'm already using.

doffen · 14th August 2020, 18:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by huhn

why would you use a profile for this?
leave the display mode out of it.

Because of limitations of my TV.
I don't want to use 23,976Hz (and) 24Hz since my TV then reduces to 4:2:2 chroma subsampling. Personally I prefer some frame repeats and full chroma than less frame drops/repeats and reduced chroma subsampling.

The exception is HDR, which I want to transfer with 12/10 bit resolution which I can't do with higher framerates and therefore want 23,976Hz for that.

Jake13942 · 15th August 2020, 12:45

I have the same problem of losing HDR after updating to latest Nvidia drivers, As far as I've read on these forums, is madVR not gonna get any updates?

tp4tissue · 16th August 2020, 13:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by doffen

Because of limitations of my TV.
I don't want to use 23,976Hz (and) 24Hz since my TV then reduces to 4:2:2 chroma subsampling. Personally I prefer some frame repeats and full chroma than less frame drops/repeats and reduced chroma subsampling.

The exception is HDR, which I want to transfer with 12/10 bit resolution which I can't do with higher framerates and therefore want 23,976Hz for that.

Damn you samsung, damn you to hell.

doffen · 16th August 2020, 14:47

Definitely! at least the overscan bug is resolved in the latest firmware.

But back to my issue, has anyone else had issues with profile based modes?

Klaus1189 · 16th August 2020, 15:02

Which firmware version solves the overscan issue?

doffen · 16th August 2020, 15:09

1300.4 solved it for me.

Klaus1189 · 16th August 2020, 15:29

Thanks

Just to be sure - what model do you have exactly? I think I don't understand what is the issue is exactly about 4:2:2. When does it happen exactly?

doffen · 16th August 2020, 16:36

My model is an NU8000 (UE82NU8005)

The chroma issue which apparently is a Samsung thing is that when the refresh rate goes down to 23 or 24 Hz the TV switches from 4:4:4 chroma to 4:2:2 chroma, even though it shows it's still in PC-mode.
I've double checked with test images, and everything from 29Hz and up is full chroma. I'm not sure about 25Hz, but both 23,976 and 24Hz is 4:2:2 chroma.

brazen1 · 16th August 2020, 18:45

Maybe it's because you use PC mode. That always limits a panels capabilities. Perhaps some other 'different' settings and/or drivers for some reason too? Imo, I don't think it's a panel problem you have. My current Samsung and all of my past Samsungs never had 4:4:4 problems at any resolution but I'm using different settings than you.

doffen · 16th August 2020, 19:39

Many people have this problem with different samsung tvs.
ex.
https://www.avsforum.com/threads/do-...nitor.3116496/

or:
https://www.avsforum.com/threads/201...056264/page-46

I see in the last link there's a bug that might be exploited to get 4:4:4 chroma in 23/24Hz. I'll try that later when i find time.

brazen1 · 16th August 2020, 21:33

As I said, maybe it's because you use PC mode.

Here is a direct quote from the 1st link you provided. It's one of the last posts in the discussion:

"I found a way to permanently fix this. (Otherwise I would definitely have had to return the TV.) YMMV. I labeled the TV as "Game Console". This fixed the issue. Then I changed the label back to "PC". The fix stayed. Yes, it was a gigantic dealbreaker until I found the solution. I spent a lot of time plugging away at Samsung's customer support chat over the issue. They were no help; I had to discover it myself. That it can be fixed at all is, of course, a totally random miracle, because it's certain that Samsung doesn't care and won't be fixing it themselves in any capacity more proactive than accidentally. And I also acknowledge that probably nobody else even knows it can be fixed, despite the latest firmware."

Fwiw, on my Q90R and all my former Samsungs, I edit my source to 'Blu-ray Player' and leave it. Note that the quote above is relabeling the source a couple of times while I simply edit it once. Keep in mind this is the madVr thread and we are getting way off topic.

@Klaus1189
When you adjust the panel to anything but PC mode, there is no overscan issue. The switch to enable 'fit to screen' becomes active once you get out of PC modes limitations. Doing this also allows the color space selection to be enabled. On Samsungs when using a PC you would select 'normal' which is 0-255 and RGB.

huhn · 17th August 2020, 02:22

he wants 4:4:4 so he has to use PC mode.

SirMaster · 17th August 2020, 16:06

Does anyone have a link to or copy of the official madVR API?

I would like to program a connection to it into some software of mine.

brazen1 · 17th August 2020, 16:33

I'm not understanding about having to use PC mode? I don't use PC mode. I never have on any of my panels other than testing. PC mode looks terrible no matter what settings are adjusted and many will be greyed out or unavailable which decreases any chance of viewing an acceptable picture. Movie mode isn't even available and I definitely want the algo used in that mode vs the only other two modes available when using PC mode - Standard or Dynamic. To enable 4:4:4, I select what Samsung calls 'Input Signal Plus'. I look at the test pattern 'quick brown fox' and I can read every text perfectly. I assume if 4:4:4 was not working, the text would be blurry. Also, because 4:4:4 is RGB (mixtures of red, green, and blue) if I wasn't getting 4:4:4, reds would take on an orange tint. I think this is an inherent tell tale sign on Samsungs. I'm only interested in video watching. This discussion isn't about gaming is it? If you would be kind enough to increase my understanding and how it would benefit my/our usage, please elaborate. Thanks.

16th August 2020, 18:45	#59935 \| Link
brazen1 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2017 Posts: 331	Maybe it's because you use PC mode. That always limits a panels capabilities. Perhaps some other 'different' settings and/or drivers for some reason too? Imo, I don't think it's a panel problem you have. My current Samsung and all of my past Samsungs never had 4:4:4 problems at any resolution but I'm using different settings than you. __________________ HOW TO-Kodi 2D-3D-UHD (4k) HDR Guide Internal & External Players W11 Pro 24H2 GTX960-4GB RGB 4:4:4 @Matched Refresh Rates 8,10,12bit KODI 22 MPC-HC/BE 82" Q90R Denon S720W

16th August 2020, 21:33	#59937 \| Link
brazen1 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2017 Posts: 331	As I said, maybe it's because you use PC mode. Here is a direct quote from the 1st link you provided. It's one of the last posts in the discussion: "I found a way to permanently fix this. (Otherwise I would definitely have had to return the TV.) YMMV. I labeled the TV as "Game Console". This fixed the issue. Then I changed the label back to "PC". The fix stayed. Yes, it was a gigantic dealbreaker until I found the solution. I spent a lot of time plugging away at Samsung's customer support chat over the issue. They were no help; I had to discover it myself. That it can be fixed at all is, of course, a totally random miracle, because it's certain that Samsung doesn't care and won't be fixing it themselves in any capacity more proactive than accidentally. And I also acknowledge that probably nobody else even knows it can be fixed, despite the latest firmware." Fwiw, on my Q90R and all my former Samsungs, I edit my source to 'Blu-ray Player' and leave it. Note that the quote above is relabeling the source a couple of times while I simply edit it once. Keep in mind this is the madVr thread and we are getting way off topic. @Klaus1189 When you adjust the panel to anything but PC mode, there is no overscan issue. The switch to enable 'fit to screen' becomes active once you get out of PC modes limitations. Doing this also allows the color space selection to be enabled. On Samsungs when using a PC you would select 'normal' which is 0-255 and RGB. __________________ HOW TO-Kodi 2D-3D-UHD (4k) HDR Guide Internal & External Players W11 Pro 24H2 GTX960-4GB RGB 4:4:4 @Matched Refresh Rates 8,10,12bit KODI 22 MPC-HC/BE 82" Q90R Denon S720W Last edited by brazen1; 16th August 2020 at 22:01.

17th August 2020, 16:33	#59940 \| Link
brazen1 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2017 Posts: 331	I'm not understanding about having to use PC mode? I don't use PC mode. I never have on any of my panels other than testing. PC mode looks terrible no matter what settings are adjusted and many will be greyed out or unavailable which decreases any chance of viewing an acceptable picture. Movie mode isn't even available and I definitely want the algo used in that mode vs the only other two modes available when using PC mode - Standard or Dynamic. To enable 4:4:4, I select what Samsung calls 'Input Signal Plus'. I look at the test pattern 'quick brown fox' and I can read every text perfectly. I assume if 4:4:4 was not working, the text would be blurry. Also, because 4:4:4 is RGB (mixtures of red, green, and blue) if I wasn't getting 4:4:4, reds would take on an orange tint. I think this is an inherent tell tale sign on Samsungs. I'm only interested in video watching. This discussion isn't about gaming is it? If you would be kind enough to increase my understanding and how it would benefit my/our usage, please elaborate. Thanks. __________________ HOW TO-Kodi 2D-3D-UHD (4k) HDR Guide Internal & External Players W11 Pro 24H2 GTX960-4GB RGB 4:4:4 @Matched Refresh Rates 8,10,12bit KODI 22 MPC-HC/BE 82" Q90R Denon S720W

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13th August 2020, 19:33	#59921 \| Link
huhn Registered User Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 7,920	looks like your Fiio E12 is a good device.

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Alexkral Registered User Join Date: Oct 2018 Posts: 323	Yes it is, and also durable, I think I bought it in 2013.

14th August 2020, 13:29	#59924 \| Link
huhn Registered User Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 7,920	why would you use a profile for this? leave the display mode out of it.

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Jake13942 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2020 Posts: 1	I have the same problem of losing HDR after updating to latest Nvidia drivers, As far as I've read on these forums, is madVR not gonna get any updates?

16th August 2020, 14:47	#59930 \| Link
doffen Registered User Join Date: May 2020 Posts: 43	Definitely! at least the overscan bug is resolved in the latest firmware. But back to my issue, has anyone else had issues with profile based modes?

16th August 2020, 15:02	#59931 \| Link
Klaus1189 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Bavaria Posts: 1,667	Which firmware version solves the overscan issue?

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doffen Registered User Join Date: May 2020 Posts: 43	1300.4 solved it for me.

16th August 2020, 15:29	#59933 \| Link
Klaus1189 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Bavaria Posts: 1,667	Thanks Just to be sure - what model do you have exactly? I think I don't understand what is the issue is exactly about 4:2:2. When does it happen exactly?

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doffen Registered User Join Date: May 2020 Posts: 43	My model is an NU8000 (UE82NU8005) The chroma issue which apparently is a Samsung thing is that when the refresh rate goes down to 23 or 24 Hz the TV switches from 4:4:4 chroma to 4:2:2 chroma, even though it shows it's still in PC-mode. I've double checked with test images, and everything from 29Hz and up is full chroma. I'm not sure about 25Hz, but both 23,976 and 24Hz is 4:2:2 chroma.

16th August 2020, 19:39	#59936 \| Link
doffen Registered User Join Date: May 2020 Posts: 43	Many people have this problem with different samsung tvs. ex. https://www.avsforum.com/threads/do-...nitor.3116496/ or: https://www.avsforum.com/threads/201...056264/page-46 I see in the last link there's a bug that might be exploited to get 4:4:4 chroma in 23/24Hz. I'll try that later when i find time.

17th August 2020, 02:22	#59938 \| Link
huhn Registered User Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 7,920	he wants 4:4:4 so he has to use PC mode.

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SirMaster Registered User Join Date: Feb 2019 Posts: 231	Does anyone have a link to or copy of the official madVR API? I would like to program a connection to it into some software of mine.