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Old 13th December 2008, 06:36   #5181  |  Link
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Hoping someone can me point in the right direction on this strange issue I'm having with a remux of an H264 HD DVD (Babel) in MPC (using 1.2.908.0) and Haali 1.8.122.18. Graphics are GTX 260 with FW180.48.

1. The raw H264 stream plays just fine in software mode.

2. When the H264 stream is in an mkv container it plays fine in software (Coreavc) but has a regular stutter/image breakup every 3-5 seconds in DXVA mode. It also plays fine on my PopcornHour.

Here is the file info:
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Complete name                    : E:\ToNMT\Babel.mkv
Format                           : Matroska
File size                        : 22.3 GiB
Duration                         : 2h 23mn
Overall bit rate                 : 22.2 Mbps
Encoded date                     : UTC 2008-12-11 05:15:07
Writing application              : eac3to
Writing library                  : Haali DirectShow Matroska Muxer 1.8.122.18

Video
Format                           : AVC
Format/Info                      : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile                   : High@L4.1
Format settings, CABAC           : Yes
Format settings, ReFrames        : 2 frames
Muxing mode                      : Container profile=Unknown@0.0
Codec ID                         : V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC
Duration                         : 2h 23mn
Bit rate                         : 21.4 Mbps
Width                            : 1 920 pixels
Height                           : 1 080 pixels
Display aspect ratio             : 16/9
Frame rate                       : 23.976 fps
Standard                         : Component
Resolution                       : 24 bits
Colorimetry                      : 4:2:0
Scan type                        : Progressive
Is this a muxing issue or is there some incompatibility between the filter and the video drivers creating the stutter? Also, I have no problem with H264 files I've created from blu rays in .m2ts or .ts containers. Would appreciate any insight on this. At least this has been a learning experience.
Are you sure your using DXVA (check the stats overlay).

Also what CPU do you have (because i think it's too slow for 22mbits of h.264 thus why you have your problem)
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Old 13th December 2008, 07:05   #5182  |  Link
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Can anyone verify the latest (from sourceforge) MPCVideoDec.ax x64 works with WMP x64 or Vista Media Center x64? work

Thanks

Edit: it does work, however in my case it was conflicting with other codec's see here
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Old 13th December 2008, 09:41   #5183  |  Link
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If you are making those backups don't use more than 4 reference frames if the final resolution is 1080p.
Is there anywhere some guide on this forum for this?
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Old 13th December 2008, 10:04   #5184  |  Link
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1) There is a bug with MPC home cinema under VISTA home premium 32bits and subtitles.
I use mpc home cinema (1.2.908)+ vobusb (2.38) to see subtitles.
Under XP there isn't delay between video and subtitles but under vista there is nearly two seconds (1.6 seconds precisely).

I notice that when i launch .vob files (or .ifo file which miss pub) instead of using "launch dvd function" there isn't delay between video and subtitles under vista but when I use "launch dvd function" under vista there is a delay of two seconds and consequently subtitles are delayed.

I try all version of mpc home cinema but there is the same problem.

I would like to know if this bug is known and if this bug will be corrected in a new version of mpc home cinema.

I try with two différent PC under vista and there is the same problem.

2) the support of M2TS presentation graphics streams is buggued with subtitle in some blu-ray disc like japan anime. Even with the last official version (1.2.908) of MPC HC some subtitles aren't displayed.

I would like to known if these bugs will be corrected in a new version.

Thanks. (excuse me for my bad english)

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Old 13th December 2008, 10:13   #5185  |  Link
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Easy feature request

Hi Developers,
1) thanx for the great work
2) a fantastic feature would be to choose whether the controls in fullscreen mode are at the bottom (as they are now) or at the top.

Me and a couple of friends have the problem that we have some speakers slightly in the 16x9 frame. This of course makes using the controls hard. We used Zoomplayer where you are rather flexible in configuring the user interface. But the only really necessary function would be the possibility to display the controls and seek bar at the top instead of the bottom. That would finally enable us to ditch zoomplayer and go full open source!

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Old 13th December 2008, 12:26   #5186  |  Link
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2) the support of M2TS presentation graphics streams is buggued with subtitle in some blu-ray disc like japan anime.
For this i need a sample make with tsRemux (be careful do not use TSMuxer for this) :
- open the M2TS
- select all elementary streams
- select "blu ray" as output
- enter some trim duration to have 1mn of video with subtitles inside
- upload sample to zshare or something
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Old 13th December 2008, 14:46   #5187  |  Link
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Media Player Classic HomeCinema (x86), svn 922
Media Player Classic HomeCinema (x64), svn 922

Supported languages: CN, CZ, DE, ES, FR, HU, IT, KR, PL, RU, SK, TR, UA

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CHANGED: Hotkeys added to support more remote control keys; FIXED : Save thumbnails crash in x64; CHANGED: Support for Theora in Matroska internal splitter
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Are you sure your using DXVA (check the stats overlay).

Also what CPU do you have (because i think it's too slow for 22mbits of h.264 thus why you have your problem)
Thanks for the response. Definitely DXVA, usually 10% or under CPU when using the mpcvideo filter. Note the cpu has no issues with the raw H264 stream, or similar bitrate H264 files created from blu ray rips, and the CPU is powerful enough to play the movie in software mode with Coreavc filter. It's a dual core Opteron @2.4 Ghz.
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Old 13th December 2008, 18:07   #5189  |  Link
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For this i need a sample make with tsRemux (be careful do not use TSMuxer for this) :
- open the M2TS
- select all elementary streams
- select "blu ray" as output
- enter some trim duration to have 1mn of video with subtitles inside
- upload sample to zshare or something
Here is the link for video (utaweruromo 1 min with subtitles) with subtitles embedded (265 MB)
http://www.zshare.net/download/5268802709403859/

the other link is a txt file with all subtitles (1 kB)
http://www.zshare.net/download/5268532167381f2b/

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Old 13th December 2008, 20:42   #5190  |  Link
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Here is the link for video (utaweruromo 1 min with subtitles) with subtitles embedded (265 MB)
http://www.zshare.net/download/5268802709403859/

the other link is a txt file with all subtitles (1 kB)
http://www.zshare.net/download/5268532167381f2b/
Can you try with this build : http://www.zshare.net/download/52694090c9ee52d5/
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Old 13th December 2008, 21:33   #5191  |  Link
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i downloaded the sample and the test-build, it worked, but: i had to select the subtitles from the splitters menu, they weren't loaded, and i got some weird OSD display and not the subtitles:

after going fullscreen the subtitles were displayed properly.
with Haali splitter i dont get audio+subs with this sample, but it works with the internal splitter of MPC-HC
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Old 13th December 2008, 22:41   #5192  |  Link
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Thanks, all subtitles are now displayed, however some subtitles are not displayed with the right timing.
In the video I gave you, there is one case:
- 5 subtitles are displayed with a noticeable delay (ie. They start later than expected, however they end exactly as they should),


** In the 1min video I gave you, here are the subtitles which start with a delay:
“8
00:00:12,679 --> 00:00:15,148
Just relax and sleep .”
“13
00:00:41,641 --> 00:00:44,644
My name's Eluluu.”

“15
00:00:47,714 --> 00:00:50,984
And this is my house .”

“17
00:00:52,986 --> 00:00:57,323
Well , I found you collapsed in the forest.”

“21
00:01:03,630 --> 00:01:07,133
You're through the worst of it,
that's what Grandma says.”


EDIT: I made a mistake, I have said that one subtitle ends sooner than expected but it is wrong. In fact the original subtitle ends really slightly before the character stops speaking, this has leading me to make this mistake.

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Old 14th December 2008, 06:08   #5193  |  Link
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hi! Casimir666 can you make RealMediaSplitter support realplayer11? last RealMediaSplitter only support realplayer10.5! but realplayer10.5 have a security problem! thanks!
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mpc-hc needs to revert to ffmpeg if its over or under level 4.1 with 3-4refs on 1080p and 5-8refs on 720p i think it was
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HD2400Pro with MPC HC DVXA1 (WinXPsp3) => EVR works but with issues

Bonjour Casimir; hi all!

I am using MPC HC h264 (1080p@24fps in this case) Internal Decoder on both:
(1) -> HD2400 => VGA => CRT Monitor
(2) -> HD2400 => DVI->HDMI => LCD HDTV

With (1) VGA, I can use either:
-> VMR9 DXVA1 => GPU @ 30%
-> Haali Renderer DXVA1 => GPU @ 4%
-> EVR Custom DXVA1 => GPU @ 4%

With (2) DVI->HDMI, I can use only:
-> VMR9 DXVA1 => GPU @ 30%
abd I have black screen for:
-> Haali Renderer DXVA1 => GPU @ 0%
-> EVR Custom DXVA1 => GPU @ 0%
With DXVA1 disabled, HDTV display is just fine and I can use either VMR9, Haali Renderer and EVR.

Can't find out why I can't EVR-DXVA1 on my DVI->HDMI HDTV Screen. Have any idea why and how to have EVR on my HDTV?

Also, how can it be VMR9 uses about 10 times more GPU than Haali Renderer and EVR (all Pixel Shader disabled always)?

Thanks for any help you could provide me :-)

Note: I use RivaTuner to monitor GPU usage.
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Under XP don't work EVR+DXVA1. EVR work only in Vista, DXVA2. With Haali render DXVA not work.

Under XP you must use VMR9 for DXVA1 is work.
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I think that DXVA does not use the GPU like a game uses because the DXVA/Hardware video decoding is DSP core logic inside the GPU, so those values are not related to video decoding.
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Thanks. Right, it is not possible to DXVA1 with EVR on my DVI->HDMI=>HDTV; at least for me, yet. But...

Still, the fact is I can do very nice and low power use on GPU DXVA1 with EVR or "Haali Renderer" / WinXP when I display the image on VGA.

Makes me think there could be a limitation with DXVA to HDTV. Ever heard of that? And any solution if any?
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Under XP don't work EVR+DXVA1. EVR work only in Vista, DXVA2. With Haali render DXVA not work.

Under XP you must use VMR9 for DXVA1 is work.
Are only certain cards capable of DXVA2 because using a 8800gt with EVR in Vista I only see DXVA1?
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hi! Casimir666 can you make RealMediaSplitter support realplayer11? last RealMediaSplitter only support realplayer10.5! but realplayer10.5 have a security problem! thanks!
It already works with RP11. It just doesn't work with new versions of cook.dll.

Casimir already tried to fix it, but the problem lies inside the RealMedia SDK, which is very old. So if you want it to be fixed, go ask RealNetworks to release an updated SDK.
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