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18th August 2017, 23:07 | #44821 | Link |
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Intel Kaby Lake + Win 8.1x64
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since you have several times advertised to use Win81 instead of Win10, I have given it a shot… the problem obviously are the graphics drivers; Intel & MS decided to support KBL graphics only in Win10 (in my case HD620)… but one can patch it (e.g new driver 154519.4678.zip)… enter in file „igdlh64.inf“ (in folder „Graphics“), section… ;===================================================================== ; Windows 8.1 Install - DT Only ;===================================================================== [IntelGfx.NTamd64.6.3] … The following line (for HD620): %iKBLULTGT2% = iKBLD_w10, PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_5916 Then install manually (with switched-off driver signature) by choosing this igdlh64.inf. It works up to the point where I get the same problems with “jumping” frames (both, in 2D and 3D) which was already addressed some month ago for Win10 (…an Intel driver issue). You were able to fix it for Win10. I know you are deep into other things… but maybe now, since in principle you know what the basic problem is, it would be easier to fix it for Win81… (the very same driver 154519.4678.zip works for Win10) Thanks |
18th August 2017, 23:39 | #44822 | Link |
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Thanks a lot to madshi and nevcairiel, DX11VA is awesome!
Now I can watch 4K without any dropped frames when with DXVA2CB it was just a slideshow. Additionally, it shaves 2-3 ms off the rendering time while at the same time making the graphics card consume 5-10W less Vs. DXVA2N, which is nice considering the boost in chroma quality. Something strange I've noticed: I'm using ReClock, and it seems like madVR in DX11VA mode makes it behave differently: it detects a different system clock, it (finally) sees the display as 23/59 Hz instead of 24/60 previously (but it always detected the actual refresh rate correctly), and - last but not least - madVR now reports it expects one frame drop every 1 day instead of every 2.2 hours with DXVA2. Can anyone explain this? I'll also ask in the ReClock forum. I also am seeing the 'custom modes' tab appear for a very short moment and then disappear from the GUI. I'm using a Panasonic plasma in RGB Full 8-bit on HDMI through a Denon AVR, and they are setup as such in madVR. The Denon has only one output and is configured as Repeater, not Scaler. I have no other display connected. I also am seeing crashes with NNEDI set as chroma upscaler. Do you still need more crash reports for this?
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18th August 2017, 23:42 | #44823 | Link |
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@madshi
Seems that custom mode tab disappears once a Profile is created. Screenshots: http://imgur.com/ldO6Vsl http://imgur.com/215bOEk Otherwise works really good! Thanks for your great work. |
19th August 2017, 00:22 | #44824 | Link | |
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19th August 2017, 03:08 | #44827 | Link | |
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Does the 3D works for you when you do it from the Windows Display ? Enabling 3D doesn't work, only Disabling disables it from NVCP when you change it from the Windows Display menu. |
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19th August 2017, 07:13 | #44829 | Link |
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3D broken with latest Nvidia drivers
First I would like to thank madshi for the latest madvr release. HDR10 now works fine with the latest nvidia drivers (385.28 on gtx 1080), even in FSE. Automatic switching works flawlessly as well. I have finally moved from 378.92 as it seems all HDR problems are now fixed with the latest drivers.
Unfortunately 3D has stopped working with the latest drivers. I am able to enable stereoscopic 3D and run the wizard successfully. But once 3D is enabled MPC-HC crashes as soon as it goes to full screen. I have tried with both 3D and non-3D mkvs. Even 4K files which will not launch in a 3D resolution crash MPC instantly on going into full screen (if stereoscopic 3D is enabled in nvidia). Another minor problem is that enabling 3D in OS doesn't enable nvidia's setting, so the madvr settings on auto enabling nvidia stereoscopic 3D is broken. I have another PC with a gtx 1080 still on the old drivers (378.92) on which 3D works fine with madvr 0.92.1. Both PCs are on windows 10 creators update. My feeling is something has changed recently on the nvidia 3D drivers. I humbly request madshi to please look into this problem as madvr 3D is a great feature. Thanks. |
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To make a calibration 3DLUT for HDR output from madVR's HDR processing I need to set my display to use madVR's "DCI-P3 at 1000 nits" metadata (or whatever is set in madVR) when measuring the patterns, however I don't know how to do that. Quote:
We need the display's tone mapping, that is the entire point of HDR, but we want to "correct" its input (by using a 3DLUT to generate a specific fixed set of metadata) so that when sent to that particular display, at its current settings, it produces the best image, based on a meter. While writing this it made me think of a (hopefully) simple addition to madTPG. A button to enable HDR mode. Edit: Even with this button, CalMAN doesn't have an option to create madVR HDR 3DLUTs (as far as I can tell).
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I've made a batch file (adapted from the one in the link in my earlier post) to fix the registry keys and enable 3D on the fly (without having to go through the buggy 3D wizard). I now run this batch file every time I switch my PJ to 3D with iRule, so 3D works for me 100% of the time, whether it was enabled or not in the nVidia control panel. I hit the 3D button on iRule, it runs the batch file to make sure 3D is enabled in the nVidia control panel, selects the 3D mode on my JVC (high lamp) and 3D works reliably (finally!). Of course not as good as a driver/OS fix, but a very acceptable temporary workaround. Quote:
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19th August 2017, 12:36 | #44832 | Link |
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Thanks for your response. I too have the same batch file to enable and disable 3D in nvidia. I checked the registry entries and they were already enabled. Probably by the nvidia 3D wizard. I will try a full clean install next to see if that solves the issue. Not sure if this is relevant but I use my TV (Sony 75Z9D) to playback 3D.
Edit: I use FSE for playback but have tried both with and without FSE with the same crash. Last edited by austinminton; 19th August 2017 at 12:37. Reason: Added FSE |
19th August 2017, 12:51 | #44833 | Link | |
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- D3D version isn't a factor in this issue, it happens the same way regardless of which version I'm choosing. - Non fullscreen windowed behaves the same as fullscreen windowed . However I did find something interesting regarding display modes. Here are the step to reproduce it on my setup : - Windows is set @2160p60 - madvr is set up with the following options
- madvr switches to 2160p23 (it is shown as being the active mode in the custom modes tab) - stats after things settled down (stats NOT coherent with the optimizations previously made with the custom modes feature) :
- there is a visible display mode change occuring. - stats after things settled down (stats coherent with the optimizations previously made with the custom modes feature) :
- stats after things settled down are identical to these obtained after enabling FSE, 2160p23 is still shown as being the active mode in the custom modes tab. - Exit the media player, the display mode goes back to 2160p60 - Open the movie again, back to the 2160p23 unoptimized mode. Side note : if I disable the revert to original mode on exit option and while I do not switch display mode while in 2160p23 optimized, I can reopen another 23p file and play it without a hitch. So it seems I do have 2 competings 2160p23 modes on my setup : an unoptimized one that is called by the madvr switcher or the windows settings (I tried launching the file while being already in 2160p23, no difference), and the optimized one produced by madvr which is called upon entering FSE. Regarding the 23.700Hz test, how would I go about trying this refresh rate ? Using the custom modes feature ? Anyway, I hope my explanations were clear enough !
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19th August 2017, 12:53 | #44834 | Link |
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It worked! I did a clean uninstall + reinstall of mpc-hc, madvr, lav filters and the nvidia drivers. Enabled stereoscopic 3D in nvidia which ran the wizard successfully. Enabled 3D in madvr and FSE. Opened 3D mkv and voila, TV switches to 3D and no crash! Thanks again for the responses, gave me the confidence it could be done and just something was wrong at my end. Not too sure what it was, but clean install did the trick.
Thanks again to madshi for this fantastic new release of madvr. Now we have full HDR + 3D support on the latest drivers. |
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19th August 2017, 14:06 | #44836 | Link |
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Just a heads up, pressing stop in Zoom Player with new mVR 92.1 causes Zoom Player to intermittenly crash. Previous version mVR 91.11 no such problem.
A user on the Zoom Player forum has also reported this problem but for him it was a secondary monitor. For me, it crashes on my one monitor (which is hooked up via HDMI to a laptop so perhaps it is also a secondary monitor). Cheers Last edited by andybkma; 19th August 2017 at 14:12. |
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Easier and cheaper to wait for the announced HDR support in MadTPG if that would be your only use for one of these
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19th August 2017, 14:33 | #44838 | Link |
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It also consistently crashes for me when pressing stop in Zoomplayer. This happens on either monitor when there are 2 (or probably more) active. It does not happen when only 1 monitor is connected. The crash location is within madVR.
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19th August 2017, 14:59 | #44839 | Link |
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Seems we now have a link with all these crash reports... multiple monitors. I too have a monitor and a TV active. I tried again last night and looked for any useful info on the crash, but alas Windows 10 only has a pop-up that says PotPlayer crashed and the program will close. The only link I see from the reports is multi-monitors, the applications are various (PotPlayer, Kodi, ZoomPlayer, MPC, etc etc)... I'm on Widows 10 and use D3D11 for presentation with FSE... I also use AMD's Custom Resolutions built into the Radeon Settings. What about the other people with these crashes? What other info?
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