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Is there any way of altering default settings for displays? I want to set MadVR to output 16-235 levels but every time I turn my AVR on and off it's detected as a new display and defaults to 0-255.
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until v0.18 upscalling refinements was not active when set supersampling and upscaling 720 to 1360x768 neither if i set aways if upscaling is needed, i double checked in v0.18, i will try on v0.19 and report... but i already know that my hardware plus settings can ´t handle supersampling, i will tweak the settings and report IMHOt is not the best way, this can be more confusing for some people, like happened to me, people can think that upscaling refinements activate with all upscaling factors... i waste sometime increasing the upscaling refinements strenght until understand that i was not seeing difference in image results because they not are activated... but even with this the quality of my movies is spetacular and i only have to thank you madshi, sorry bother you with such as specific situation...
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My question was about the nature of the new deringing algorithm. What percentage of sources are likely to have these artifacts and how good of a general use filter is this? Also, does deringing help with ringing created by compression of a source, where too much information is lost around high frequencies edges?
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It's a new display every time? Does your AVR use a random serial number or how does that happen? Maybe it's just 2-5 different detected displays instead of an infinite number? Quote:
I don't know. Probably most sources have very minor ringing artifacts, which might not bother 99.9% of all users. Some sources probably have more obvious artifacts than others. I don't know. You tell me! Quote:
Maybe the filter also fixes some compression artifacts as a side effect, I don't know, but that's not what it was designed to do. FWIW, the added grain is only a part of the overall quality improvement. I've also done some other tweaks to the deringing algo. |
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if we want to sharpen the source we use image enhacements if we want apply the sharpen after upscaling use upscalling refinements if we want use in both use in both this give the option to user decide what is best, as i said ATM madvr dont allow me to use upscalling refinements if the scalling factor is small... such as 720p to 1360x768, only allow me to use image enhacements but don´t want to bother you with a situation that only me is asking... these resolutions will sooner be end... almost everyone is using at least fullhd tv projectors and monitors... and seens that in general theres no such a smaller diference between the movies and the display, only bigger upscalling factors..
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even if set to use upscalling refinements... the same with supersampling madvr doubles the image downscalle but don´t apply upscalling refinements, a least until v.18, i wil tes .19 but serious maybe this subjetic is extending too much, i don ´t want to bother madshi and other users with my specific situation
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Just when I thought madVR can't get any better, and that it is already amazing as it is... this deringing thing is frigging fantastic! Ringing in the original bluray source is my number 1 annoyance. I am even annoyed by ones caused by very mild DNR+EE that is present in newer titles like Force Awakens. This thing is doing wonders! A big THANK YOU!
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Or do you meant something else?
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Thanks, This might actually be the preferred behavior too.
Now that madVR handles HDR files, and there is even some wide gamut content, users might be very confused if an "HDR" BT.2020 or DCI P3 gamut file looked really washed out by default. You sort of need a default target gamut. Having "unset" actually default to "Normal PC mode" makes sense to me but I suppose you could also remove that option and simply default a new display to "this display is already calibrated" set to BT.709 with pure power 2.20. Something to worry about for v1.0. I haven't mentioned it yet but "reduce ringing artifacts" is great.. like all these new options it is hard for me to offer useful feedback for but it is a Good Thing. The updated version is better still. Thanks a lot. Correct. The option "delay playback start until render queue is full" is your best bet. Try increasing queue sizes if needed.
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When I playback in just Window Mode its stable, why is this? Last edited by 70MM; 16th May 2016 at 04:37. |
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When increasing queue size, which cue do I increase, the render one? What numbers might some people here increase this to? I have all mine set at 8... |
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Try lower queues too, all the way down to the minimums. Try changing the "how many video frames shall be presented in advance" numbers too. Usually the CPU queue size is less important, as long as it is big enough and usually stays full.
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