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Old 5th January 2018, 12:48   #48061  |  Link
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NOTHING is more important than having the first software solution for DV worldwide, nothing! Especially not these extremely small improvements to the filters.
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Old 5th January 2018, 12:57   #48062  |  Link
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NOTHING is more important than having the first software solution for DV worldwide, nothing! Especially not these extremely small improvements to the filters.
what is your problem exactly?, you've been told its not coming any time soon, if at all, deal with it.
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Old 5th January 2018, 13:23   #48063  |  Link
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the 1060 is a 2 GB card.
GTX 1060 has 3 or 6 GB of video memory.
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Old 5th January 2018, 13:28   #48064  |  Link
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should have been 1050 my mistake will fix it.
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Old 5th January 2018, 13:34   #48065  |  Link
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NOTHING is more important than having the first software solution for DV worldwide, nothing! Especially not these extremely small improvements to the filters.
Feel free to develop it...
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Old 5th January 2018, 13:35   #48066  |  Link
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NOTHING is more important than having the first software solution for DV worldwide, nothing! Especially not these extremely small improvements to the filters.
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Old 5th January 2018, 14:02   #48067  |  Link
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Feel free to develop it...
Well thats going to be difficult unfortunately
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Old 5th January 2018, 14:09   #48068  |  Link
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well I found that NGU iage upscale was almost identical for me on my RX550 vs 1050, neither card could do more than NGU sharp medium without glitchy playback kon 4k and 3d MVC stuff, 2D 1080p stuff was fine, I could ramp that up to NGU high on both cards, there must be large difference in processing requirments between medium and high which neither card can meet.



i don't have to do anything to get anything running correctly what so ever. so don't assume this is a general issue.

1. so your system is again solid crashes and you change your option every couple days about this topic sorry but what?
2. had the problem to switching to nvidia fixed the problem and unlike other people i contacted AMD about this.

and i was talking about a 1050 TI. the 1050 is a 2 GB card.
Have you got nothing better to do than pick apart everything I say??, just let it go for goodness sake.
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Old 5th January 2018, 14:15   #48069  |  Link
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so you post stuff in the hope it get's ignored?
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Old 5th January 2018, 14:26   #48070  |  Link
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that the reason why this is issue is criminal in my eyes. a normal user can't see the difference on the name.

the MSI RADEON RX 560 AERO ITX is PCIe 16 with only 8 lanes.
but i don't see a msi version with buffin XT chip.
think about a 1050 ti if you want to use NGU about 2x speed for NGU.
Anything i should know about different models of 1050 ti or thats just a rx 560 thing??
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Old 5th January 2018, 14:30   #48071  |  Link
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so you post stuff in the hope it get's ignored?
you're clearly knowledgeable and have posted some really useful stuff for people, there is no need to pick apart everything others say, you are bordering on troll territory.
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Old 5th January 2018, 14:31   #48072  |  Link
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i'm not aware of any of these issues. maybe there are cards with PCIe 8x too sorry.

look for a benchmark that test the cooler i guess.
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True, but you have to be careful for more than just that when selecting RX 560s, they are hard cards to shop for today.
I just bought that MSI card, it's not listed as a d/Pro chip in German price comparisons and mine got the XT chip accordingly (also tested 3DMark).
The 8 PCIe lanes are ugly when you don't have PCIe 3.0, with 3.0 it doesn't really matter (it was also that way with every RX 460 card).
Of course the card isn't optimal when you want best hardware decoding + nice NGU performance. I bought it as a cheap 4GB substitute for my defect GTX 1070 and because AMD is way better than Nvidia on Linux these days.
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Old 5th January 2018, 15:21   #48074  |  Link
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I just bought that MSI card, it's not listed as a d/Pro chip in German price comparisons and mine got the XT chip accordingly (also tested 3DMark).
The 8 PCIe lanes are ugly when you don't have PCIe 3.0, with 3.0 it doesn't really matter (it was also that way with every RX 460 card).
Of course the card isn't optimal when you want best hardware decoding + nice NGU performance. I bought it as a cheap 4GB substitute for my defect GTX 1070 and because AMD is way better than Nvidia on Linux these days.
interesting, i've only got a PCI express 2.0 board, would I get any benefit from tracking down a PCI express 3.0 board mainboard for my RX550 or is the main bottleneck for MADVR the card itself, and it wouldnt really add anything to the rendering path?
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Old 5th January 2018, 15:31   #48075  |  Link
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I just bought that MSI card, it's not listed as a d/Pro chip in German price comparisons and mine got the XT chip accordingly (also tested 3DMark).
The 8 PCIe lanes are ugly when you don't have PCIe 3.0, with 3.0 it doesn't really matter (it was also that way with every RX 460 card).
Of course the card isn't optimal when you want best hardware decoding + nice NGU performance. I bought it as a cheap 4GB substitute for my defect GTX 1070 and because AMD is way better than Nvidia on Linux these days.
does UHD 60 FPS copyback work without major performance issues?
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Old 5th January 2018, 18:31   #48076  |  Link
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No, performance hit is obnoxious. But this is not related to 8x PCIe 3.0 bandwidth limitation, but to AMD's sorry excuse of a Windows driver, since it does work fine on Linux with vaapi-copy...
It btw. wouldn't be an issue if madVR had D3D11VA deinterlacing.

I btw.² have to use Crimson 17.11.4 to avoid nasty stuttering in Firefox or when moving windows, there is no way to fix that, except of using workaround tool ClockBlocker.
(On Linux, I can simply force full clocks with a setting, which unfortunately is also required for best result in mpv.).
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Old 5th January 2018, 18:38   #48077  |  Link
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cheers, i'm still on 17.10.2 as find that more stable that later drivers, I get random system lockups with later drivers for some reason.
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Old 5th January 2018, 18:52   #48078  |  Link
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No, performance hit is obnoxious. But this is not related to 8x PCIe 3.0 bandwidth limitation, but to AMD's sorry excuse of a Windows driver, since it does work fine on Linux with vaapi-copy...
It btw. wouldn't be an issue if madVR had D3D11VA deinterlacing.

I btw.² have to use Crimson 17.11.4 to avoid nasty stuttering in Firefox or when moving windows, there is no way to fix that, except of using workaround tool ClockBlocker.
(On Linux, I can simply force full clocks with a setting, which unfortunately is also required for best result in mpv.).
well this is the madVR thread so linux doesn't really matter here and and working hardware deinterlancing is not the only thing that benefits from copyback.
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Old 5th January 2018, 19:03   #48079  |  Link
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Only other realistic usecase would be AviSynth, which can be mostly avoided with madVR's own filters, and probably is too complex to use for even most madVR users anyway.
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Old 5th January 2018, 19:25   #48080  |  Link
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detelecine. peak nit measurment. black bar cropping... and more stuff :-)
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