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31st May 2007, 21:52 | #61 | Link | |
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They may buy knock-off movies from some stall in a market, but that's irrelevant to my point - which is that 99% of sales are driven by the availability of cheap, dedicated, under-the-telly boxes to play the disks. Frankly I'm amazed (after the CSS debacle) that PC drives and software players are even available - if it were not possible to play HD DVDs or BluRay disks on a PC, I doubt that movie sales would have been harmed much at all, and cracking the copy protection would be so much harder. |
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I think they will give CyberLink and InterVideo a couple of attempts at obfuscating their code - probably a three strikes and you're out policy. So I think they are down to having one or two strikes remaining each and then 'sorry you breached your AACS license agreement'.
Sure I think they'll now treat every breach as entirely separate since now they can pinpoint the culprits easier - i.e they'll revoke licences for XP players long before Vista players. If this is in part of their agreement - then you will probably see CyberLink and InterVideo trying to crack each other's programs in order to have them removed from the market and so create a monopoly on HD player software for themselves! So roughly by what magnitude is it more difficult to kernel debug a Vista application compared to the equivalent XP app? |
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I think the bypassing of vista DRM belongs to both Alex and Joanna , both formerly of COSENIC. They ran training courses at the recent black hat conference describing kernel attacks which could also be used to bypass vista DRM.
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Seems the Alex mentioned previously and the Alex I was thinking of are not the same. Sorry. Last edited by insomniak1981; 1st June 2007 at 02:54. Reason: not checking my facts |
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1st June 2007, 09:34 | #65 | Link | |
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DRM is all about market control, not about piracy. Piracy is just a false motivation, a lie. DMCA was passed on 1998 (furthermore DMCA is based on 2 WIPO treaties passed on 1996), DVD Video spec (with DRM) was approved on 1995, Napster was first released on 1999 (only for music). DRM was first, piracy was later. You can check the dates at Wikipedia. So they need soft players because they want to control PC market. Of course market control is useful to destroy fair use (and other purposes). Last edited by xyz987; 1st June 2007 at 09:36. |
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1st June 2007, 09:57 | #66 | Link |
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Just to clear up usage of aacskeys: if you put only the new Processing Key in the ...Simple.txt file then it will only be capable of finding keys for new discs (MKB v3 discs). So its better to put both the old Processing Key (09F9) and the new one (455F) in the ...Simple.txt file.
In other words: the new Processing Key cannot open up old discs only new ones. So you need both to find keys for all released discs so far. Last edited by arnezami; 1st June 2007 at 09:59. |
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System Requirements Operating System: Microsoft® Windows Vista™ only VGA card: NVIDIA GeForce 8500GT, GeForce 8600GT, GeForce 8600GTS only F |
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Also if there are in fact HDDVDs with a MKBv2, then there is a high propability that the new processing key can also be used for this MKB IMO, since they are propably very similar and share many subset differences. |
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1st June 2007, 11:23 | #70 | Link | |
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1st June 2007, 11:45 | #71 | Link |
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Quite interesting that it only works on the GF8 series and even there only on the mainstream series, not the high end ones. If i remember correctly the mainstream series supports HDCP over dual-link DVI and has some extra video features, maybe also more DRM? I wonder how many they will sell...
How did you get that link? Seems not to be reachable over the main site, this even states that the HD pack will be available soon (says that for 4 months now...). |
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Looking at the url its possible this is for WinDVD 8 trial versions bundled with certain nVidia cards? And they get redirected here maybe? It also says "Limited time offer" at the right top of the page.
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Not just the advisor. Requirements for the advisor are shown at the top of the page under "Notes".
But a little lower there are the "High-Definition Suggested System Requirements" and there it says XP too. These are the requirements for HD playback. (btw this is the page you get when clicking in the advisor itself on something that isn't ok). Last edited by arnezami; 1st June 2007 at 12:33. |
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My guess is:
The front page has this link : Corel Announces InterVideo® WinDVD® BD/HD-DVD Playback/Navigation Support for NVIDIA® GeForce® 8 Series GPUs which in turn says: Availability, Licensing WinDVD 8 BD/HD-DVD is available through Corel’s worldwide resellers and online at www.intervideo.com/nvidia. And the last link redirects to http://www.intervideo.com/nVidia/Win...n1_landing.jsp |
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The last one is pretty bad. Just 3 video cards supported? They probably were so scared by AACS they only tested for the leaked keys and not much more. |
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That it doesn't work with AnyDVD - well WinDVD didn't play unencrypted Blu-Ray discs before either, so that's no wonder (unencrypted BDMV is not in the specs anyway, we're all lucky, that PowerDVD is such a friendly software - I hope, you're all buying their stuff they actually deserve it). Whether it would play HD-DVD with AnyDVD remains to be confirmed, though, if it really doesn't work with the X-Box drive, there is no way to tell at the moment... |
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1st June 2007, 14:30 | #80 | Link | |
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From my understanding, the version number wouldn't have to change at all if the only news is some revoked device keys (effectively revoking a processing key if you like). So they may just have forgotten some Host IDs on v2 (after all, the list of revoked host certificates in v3 is fairly long). |
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