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Old 19th February 2017, 08:03   #3161  |  Link
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a. DPL and DPL2 are methods for downmixing 5.1 to stereo which have no influence on the required bit rate
b. no clue what you do with multiple files or not, the file count should not have any influence on whether a downmix is possible or not.
-> please describe in details what you do and what doesn't work since currently I have no clue. + create a debug output, if you don't know how to create a debug output read http://www.selur.de/support

There might be a bug in Hybrid, but unless I can reproduce and understand the issue I can't do anything about it.

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b. no clue what you do with multiple files or not, the file count should not have any influence on whether a downmix is possible or not.
-> please describe in details what you do and what doesn't work since currently I have no clue.
It should be easy to duplicate:

Audio tab, set Filtering to Stereo, set audio Encoder tab to Qaac cvbr and High Efficiency, set audio bitrate to 32. Now drag and drop a file. The audio box to the right in the Audio tab then shows what the audio output will be. It shows 32 kbps and stereo.

Now do the same but instead of Stereo choose DPL or DPL2. When I drag and drop the file, the bitrate that was set at High Efficiency 32 kbps changes to Low Complexity and 192 kbps. If I change it to High Efficiency, the lowest bitrate I can choose is 80 kbps.

My assumption is DPL and DPL2 require a minimum bitrate to be set, since that's what it is doing. I can get around that by drag-dropping the file and then setting the audio to 32kbps and DPL and then pressing the minus button in the audio output box to delete the drag-dropped audio and pressing the + button to add the 32kbps DPL audio. And it does output in 32 kbps and in what sounds like DPL.

If I drag-drop more than one file at a time, I can't use that trick because pressing the + button only adds the audio for one of the drag-dropped files. If I press the audio Source button, it adds audio for both drag-dropped files, but puts them at 192 kbps instead of 32 kbps.

The main question is the first part of this post. If audio is set to QAAC, DPL, High Efficiency, 32 kbps, is drag-dropping a file supposed to change the audio to Low Complexity 192 kbps? And is DPL/DPL2 with High Efficiency supposed to have a lowest kbps possible setting of 80 kbps?

Even if DPL/DPL2 with High Efficiency has a lowest kbps setting of 80, maybe I'm missing a setting somewhere that forces Hybrid to keep the 80 kbps setting, since every time I drag-drop with DPL or DPL2 and High Efficiency QAAC, the bitrate changes to 192. (Though it does let me manually change it to as low as 80 kbps.)

FDK let's me drag-drop to DPL/DPL2 with 32 kbps, but if I had it set to High Efficiency or High Efficiency V2, it changes it to Low Complexity (but does keep it at 32 kbps.)

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Reason isn't DPL/DPL2, but simply that Hybrid seems to ignore the downmix when you use drag&drop.
Since you provided no information about:
a. What audio handling method you use.
b. What characteristics your audio files have.
c. What OS you are on.
d. What other settings you use.
this will take a while.
btw. to see the restrictions regarding bit rates from the qaac encoder you can call 'qaac --formats':
Code:
LC 8000Hz Mono -- 8,12,16,20,24
LC 8000Hz Stereo -- 16,20,24,28,32,40,48
LC 8000Hz 3.0 (C L R) -- 24,28,32,40,48,56,64,72
LC 8000Hz 4.0 (L R Ls Rs) -- 32,40,48,56,64,72,80,96
LC 8000Hz 4.0 (C L R Cs) -- 32,40,48,56,64,72,80,96
LC 8000Hz 5.0 (C L R Ls Rs) -- 40,48,56,64,72,80,96,112
LC 8000Hz 5.1 (C L R Ls Rs LFE) -- 40,48,56,64,72,80,96,112
LC 8000Hz 6.0 (C L R Ls Rs Cs) -- 48,56,64,72,80,96,112,128,144
LC 8000Hz 6.1 (C L R Ls Rs Cs LFE) -- 48,56,64,72,80,96,112,128,144
LC 8000Hz 7.0 (C L R Ls Rs Rls Rrs) -- 56,64,72,80,96,112,128,144,160
LC 8000Hz 7.1 (C Lc Rc L R Ls Rs LFE) -- 56,64,72,80,96,112,128,144,160
LC 8000Hz 8.0 (C L R Ls Rs Rls Rrs Cs) -- 64,72,80,96,112,128,144,160,192
LC 11025Hz Mono -- 8,12,16,20,24,28,32
LC 11025Hz Stereo -- 16,20,24,28,32,40,48,56,64
LC 11025Hz 3.0 (C L R) -- 40,48,56,64,72,80,96
LC 11025Hz 4.0 (L R Ls Rs) -- 48,56,64,72,80,96,112,128
LC 11025Hz 4.0 (C L R Cs) -- 48,56,64,72,80,96,112,128
LC 11025Hz 5.0 (C L R Ls Rs) -- 64,72,80,96,112,128,144,160
LC 11025Hz 5.1 (C L R Ls Rs LFE) -- 64,72,80,96,112,128,144,160
LC 11025Hz 6.0 (C L R Ls Rs Cs) -- 72,80,96,112,128,144,160,192
LC 11025Hz 6.1 (C L R Ls Rs Cs LFE) -- 72,80,96,112,128,144,160,192
LC 11025Hz 7.0 (C L R Ls Rs Rls Rrs) -- 96,112,128,144,160,192,224
LC 11025Hz 7.1 (C Lc Rc L R Ls Rs LFE) -- 96,112,128,144,160,192,224
LC 11025Hz 8.0 (C L R Ls Rs Rls Rrs Cs) -- 96,112,128,144,160,192,224,256
LC 12000Hz Mono -- 12,16,20,24,28,32
LC 12000Hz Stereo -- 24,28,32,40,48,56,64
LC 12000Hz 3.0 (C L R) -- 40,48,56,64,72,80,96
LC 12000Hz 4.0 (L R Ls Rs) -- 48,56,64,72,80,96,112,128
LC 12000Hz 4.0 (C L R Cs) -- 48,56,64,72,80,96,112,128
LC 12000Hz 5.0 (C L R Ls Rs) -- 64,72,80,96,112,128,144,160
LC 12000Hz 5.1 (C L R Ls Rs LFE) -- 64,72,80,96,112,128,144,160
LC 12000Hz 6.0 (C L R Ls Rs Cs) -- 72,80,96,112,128,144,160,192
LC 12000Hz 6.1 (C L R Ls Rs Cs LFE) -- 72,80,96,112,128,144,160,192
LC 12000Hz 7.0 (C L R Ls Rs Rls Rrs) -- 96,112,128,144,160,192,224
LC 12000Hz 7.1 (C Lc Rc L R Ls Rs LFE) -- 96,112,128,144,160,192,224
LC 12000Hz 8.0 (C L R Ls Rs Rls Rrs Cs) -- 96,112,128,144,160,192,224,256
LC 16000Hz Mono -- 12,16,20,24,28,32,40,48
LC 16000Hz Stereo -- 24,28,32,40,48,56,64,72,80,96
LC 16000Hz 3.0 (C L R) -- 40,48,56,64,72,80,96,112,128,144
LC 16000Hz 4.0 (L R Ls Rs) -- 48,56,64,72,80,96,112,128,144,160,192
LC 16000Hz 4.0 (C L R Cs) -- 48,56,64,72,80,96,112,128,144,160,192
LC 16000Hz 5.0 (C L R Ls Rs) -- 64,72,80,96,112,128,144,160,192,224
LC 16000Hz 5.1 (C L R Ls Rs LFE) -- 64,72,80,96,112,128,144,160,192,224
LC 16000Hz 6.0 (C L R Ls Rs Cs) -- 72,80,96,112,128,144,160,192,224,256,288
LC 16000Hz 6.1 (C L R Ls Rs Cs LFE) -- 72,80,96,112,128,144,160,192,224,256,288
LC 16000Hz 7.0 (C L R Ls Rs Rls Rrs) -- 96,112,128,144,160,192,224,256,288,320
LC 16000Hz 7.1 (C Lc Rc L R Ls Rs LFE) -- 96,112,128,144,160,192,224,256,288,320
LC 16000Hz 8.0 (C L R Ls Rs Rls Rrs Cs) -- 96,112,128,144,160,192,224,256,288,320,384
LC 22050Hz Mono -- 16,20,24,28,32,40,48,56,64
LC 22050Hz Stereo -- 32,40,48,56,64,72,80,96,112,128
LC 22050Hz 3.0 (C L R) -- 48,56,64,72,80,96,112,128,144,160,192
LC 22050Hz 4.0 (L R Ls Rs) -- 64,72,80,96,112,128,144,160,192,224,256
LC 22050Hz 4.0 (C L R Cs) -- 64,72,80,96,112,128,144,160,192,224,256
LC 22050Hz 5.0 (C L R Ls Rs) -- 80,96,112,128,144,160,192,224,256,288,320
LC 22050Hz 5.1 (C L R Ls Rs LFE) -- 80,96,112,128,144,160,192,224,256,288,320
LC 22050Hz 6.0 (C L R Ls Rs Cs) -- 96,112,128,144,160,192,224,256,288,320,384
LC 22050Hz 6.1 (C L R Ls Rs Cs LFE) -- 96,112,128,144,160,192,224,256,288,320,384
LC 22050Hz 7.0 (C L R Ls Rs Rls Rrs) -- 112,128,144,160,192,224,256,288,320,384,448
LC 22050Hz 7.1 (C Lc Rc L R Ls Rs LFE) -- 112,128,144,160,192,224,256,288,320,384,448
LC 22050Hz 8.0 (C L R Ls Rs Rls Rrs Cs) -- 128,144,160,192,224,256,288,320,384,448,512
LC 24000Hz Mono -- 16,20,24,28,32,40,48,56,64
LC 24000Hz Stereo -- 32,40,48,56,64,72,80,96,112,128
LC 24000Hz 3.0 (C L R) -- 48,56,64,72,80,96,112,128,144,160,192
LC 24000Hz 4.0 (L R Ls Rs) -- 64,72,80,96,112,128,144,160,192,224,256
LC 24000Hz 4.0 (C L R Cs) -- 64,72,80,96,112,128,144,160,192,224,256
LC 24000Hz 5.0 (C L R Ls Rs) -- 80,96,112,128,144,160,192,224,256,288,320
LC 24000Hz 5.1 (C L R Ls Rs LFE) -- 80,96,112,128,144,160,192,224,256,288,320
LC 24000Hz 6.0 (C L R Ls Rs Cs) -- 96,112,128,144,160,192,224,256,288,320,384
LC 24000Hz 6.1 (C L R Ls Rs Cs LFE) -- 96,112,128,144,160,192,224,256,288,320,384
LC 24000Hz 7.0 (C L R Ls Rs Rls Rrs) -- 112,128,144,160,192,224,256,288,320,384,448
LC 24000Hz 7.1 (C Lc Rc L R Ls Rs LFE) -- 112,128,144,160,192,224,256,288,320,384,448
LC 24000Hz 8.0 (C L R Ls Rs Rls Rrs Cs) -- 128,144,160,192,224,256,288,320,384,448,512
LC 32000Hz Mono -- 24,28,32,40,48,56,64,72,80,96
LC 32000Hz Stereo -- 48,56,64,72,80,96,112,128,144,160,192
LC 32000Hz 3.0 (C L R) -- 72,80,96,112,128,144,160,192,224,256,288
LC 32000Hz 4.0 (L R Ls Rs) -- 96,112,128,144,160,192,224,256,288,320,384
LC 32000Hz 4.0 (C L R Cs) -- 96,112,128,144,160,192,224,256,288,320,384
LC 32000Hz 5.0 (C L R Ls Rs) -- 128,144,160,192,224,256,288,320,384,448
LC 32000Hz 5.1 (C L R Ls Rs LFE) -- 128,144,160,192,224,256,288,320,384,448
LC 32000Hz 6.0 (C L R Ls Rs Cs) -- 144,160,192,224,256,288,320,384,448,512,576
LC 32000Hz 6.1 (C L R Ls Rs Cs LFE) -- 144,160,192,224,256,288,320,384,448,512,576
LC 32000Hz 7.0 (C L R Ls Rs Rls Rrs) -- 192,224,256,288,320,384,448,512,576,640
LC 32000Hz 7.1 (C Lc Rc L R Ls Rs LFE) -- 192,224,256,288,320,384,448,512,576,640
LC 32000Hz 8.0 (C L R Ls Rs Rls Rrs Cs) -- 192,224,256,288,320,384,448,512,576,640,768
LC 44100Hz Mono -- 32,40,48,56,64,72,80,96,112,128,144,160,192,224,256
LC 44100Hz Stereo -- 64,72,80,96,112,128,144,160,192,224,256,288,320
LC 44100Hz 3.0 (C L R) -- 96,112,128,144,160,192,224,256,288,320,384,448
LC 44100Hz 4.0 (L R Ls Rs) -- 128,144,160,192,224,256,288,320,384,448,512,576,640
LC 44100Hz 4.0 (C L R Cs) -- 128,144,160,192,224,256,288,320,384,448,512,576,640
LC 44100Hz 5.0 (C L R Ls Rs) -- 160,192,224,256,288,320,384,448,512,576,640,768
LC 44100Hz 5.1 (C L R Ls Rs LFE) -- 160,192,224,256,288,320,384,448,512,576,640,768
LC 44100Hz 6.0 (C L R Ls Rs Cs) -- 192,224,256,288,320,384,448,512,576,640,768,960
LC 44100Hz 6.1 (C L R Ls Rs Cs LFE) -- 192,224,256,288,320,384,448,512,576,640,768,960
LC 44100Hz 7.0 (C L R Ls Rs Rls Rrs) -- 224,256,288,320,384,448,512,576,640,768,960
LC 44100Hz 7.1 (C Lc Rc L R Ls Rs LFE) -- 224,256,288,320,384,448,512,576,640,768,960
LC 44100Hz 8.0 (C L R Ls Rs Rls Rrs Cs) -- 256,288,320,384,448,512,576,640,768,960,1280
LC 48000Hz Mono -- 32,40,48,56,64,72,80,96,112,128,144,160,192,224,256
LC 48000Hz Stereo -- 64,72,80,96,112,128,144,160,192,224,256,288,320
LC 48000Hz 3.0 (C L R) -- 96,112,128,144,160,192,224,256,288,320,384,448
LC 48000Hz 4.0 (L R Ls Rs) -- 128,144,160,192,224,256,288,320,384,448,512,576,640
LC 48000Hz 4.0 (C L R Cs) -- 128,144,160,192,224,256,288,320,384,448,512,576,640
LC 48000Hz 5.0 (C L R Ls Rs) -- 160,192,224,256,288,320,384,448,512,576,640,768
LC 48000Hz 5.1 (C L R Ls Rs LFE) -- 160,192,224,256,288,320,384,448,512,576,640,768
LC 48000Hz 6.0 (C L R Ls Rs Cs) -- 192,224,256,288,320,384,448,512,576,640,768,960
LC 48000Hz 6.1 (C L R Ls Rs Cs LFE) -- 192,224,256,288,320,384,448,512,576,640,768,960
LC 48000Hz 7.0 (C L R Ls Rs Rls Rrs) -- 224,256,288,320,384,448,512,576,640,768,960
LC 48000Hz 7.1 (C Lc Rc L R Ls Rs LFE) -- 224,256,288,320,384,448,512,576,640,768,960
LC 48000Hz 8.0 (C L R Ls Rs Rls Rrs Cs) -- 256,288,320,384,448,512,576,640,768,960,1280
HE 32000Hz Mono -- 12,16,24,32,40
HE 32000Hz Stereo -- 24,32,40,48,56,64,80
HE 32000Hz 4.0 (L R Ls Rs) -- 48,56,64,80,96,112,128,160
HE 32000Hz 5.1 (C L R Ls Rs LFE) -- 64,80,96,112,128,160,192
HE 32000Hz 7.1 (C Lc Rc L R Ls Rs LFE) -- 96,112,128,160,192,224,256
HE 44100Hz Mono -- 16,24,32,40
HE 44100Hz Stereo -- 32,40,48,56,64,80
HE 44100Hz 4.0 (L R Ls Rs) -- 64,80,96,112,128,160
HE 44100Hz 5.1 (C L R Ls Rs LFE) -- 80,96,112,128,160,192
HE 44100Hz 7.1 (C Lc Rc L R Ls Rs LFE) -- 112,128,160,192,224,256
HE 48000Hz Mono -- 16,24,32,40
HE 48000Hz Stereo -- 32,40,48,56,64,80
HE 48000Hz 4.0 (L R Ls Rs) -- 64,80,96,112,128,160
HE 48000Hz 5.1 (C L R Ls Rs LFE) -- 80,96,112,128,160,192
HE 48000Hz 7.1 (C Lc Rc L R Ls Rs LFE) -- 112,128,160,192,224,256
HE 88200Hz Mono -- 32,40,48,56,64,80,96,112,128,160
HE 88200Hz Stereo -- 64,80,96,112,128,160,192,224,256,320
HE 88200Hz 4.0 (L R Ls Rs) -- 128,160,192,224,256,320,448,640
HE 88200Hz 5.1 (C L R Ls Rs LFE) -- 160,192,224,256,320,448,640
HE 88200Hz 7.1 (C Lc Rc L R Ls Rs LFE) -- 224,256,320,448,640,1120
HE 96000Hz Mono -- 32,40,48,56,64,80,96,112,128,160
HE 96000Hz Stereo -- 64,80,96,112,128,160,192,224,256,320
HE 96000Hz 4.0 (L R Ls Rs) -- 128,160,192,224,256,320,448,640
HE 96000Hz 5.1 (C L R Ls Rs LFE) -- 160,192,224,256,320,448,640
HE 96000Hz 7.1 (C Lc Rc L R Ls Rs LFE) -- 224,256,320,448,640,1120
=> will look into reproducing the issue

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btw. to see the restrictions regarding bit rates from the qaac encoder you can call 'qaac --formats':
You overestimate my ability to know how to "call" formats. But that's fine. It's great that Hybrid can use QAAC, and multiple tracks, btw. Lots of other encoders don't do that.
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Reason isn't DPL/DPL2, but simply that Hybrid seems to ignore the downmix when you use drag&drop.
Though Hybrid did keep the settings when drag&dropping to Stereo downmix.

It looks like the new fix fixed it. Thank you. I hadn't even considered it could be linked to drag&dropping.
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Hybrid rev 2017.05.03.1:
*fixed*
  • Vapoursynth: a bunch of small changes
  • filtering: handling of rotate when avisynth/vapoursynth is used
  • audio: audio channel count not properly taken into account on source change when downMix was involved
  • audio: qaac datarate adjustement
*changed*
  • general: high bit depth input handling
  • general: Vapoursynth automatically installed on 64bit systems (Windows only); not enabled by default.
*added*
  • Vapoursynth: nnedi3-resize, DegrainMedian
  • VCEEnc: support for some additional options
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Hybrid rev 2017.05.03.1:
(...)[*]general: Vapoursynth automatically installed on 64bit systems (Windows only); not enabled by default.
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Why disabled?
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Because it's Avisynth or Vapoursynth. (can be easily enabled through the misc.ini)
+ No time and motivation to adjust the NSIS Installer script. (aside from minimal changes I haven't adjusted the script for ages and it would need a complete overhaul)
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Because it's Avisynth or Vapoursynth. (can be easily enabled through the misc.ini)
+ No time and motivation to adjust the NSIS Installer script. (aside from minimal changes I haven't adjusted the script for ages and it would need a complete overhaul)
Thanks

I did a clean install here, and Vapousynth is enabled instead of Avisynth. Windows 10 x64

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Yeah, I know, I accidentally copied a misc.ini into the installer. -> Adjusting (or deleting) the misc.ini will fix that.
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Hybrid rev 2017.03.06.1:
*fixed*
  • Vapoursynth: Interframe
  • audio: vbr stack position on Linux/Mac
  • general: removed misc.ini from installer (Windows only)
  • vceenc: typo 'vbv-buffsize' -> 'vbv-bufsize' (Windows only)

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Hybrid rev 2017.03.19.1:
*fixed*
  • Hybrid complaining about missing 'bitrate' and 'targetSizemode' depending on the encoder saved as default 'Video Handling'
  • x265: rdrefine was always enabled with rdo >=5
  • x265: glitch in 'minimize call'
  • general: some glitches with Avisynth/Vapoursynth preview
  • general: reset cut settings on disabling
  • Vapoursynth: cut + Vapoursynth script
  • Vapoursynth: FilterView make sure variable&dualVar have the same color space
*changed*
  • Vapoursynth: using vfrtocfr
  • Avisynth: TDeint/TFM with QTGMC support
  • FilterView/Split: Adjustment to options
*added*
  • Vapoursynth: DGDecIM support
  • Vapoursynth: sRestore
  • Output: .ts as output container
  • misc: allow to enforce language and country
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I cannot remux any file to mkv with this latest version, worked in previous versions.
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Argh,.. I know why it happens,.. will fix => fixed locally, can send you a dev version for testing if you tell me what OS you are using
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Old 26th March 2017, 10:03   #3177  |  Link
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Hybrid rev 2017.03.26.1:
*fixed*
  • Vapoursynth: Interframe
  • muxing: replace "- with '-symbol in tags
  • avisynth: non yv12 handling
  • muxing: remuxing with video passthrough
  • avisynth: missing GRunT.dll
*changed*
  • x265: adjusted to new slower/very slow presets
*added*
  • Vapoursynth: set color resizer
  • misc.ini: skip nvidia checks with: nonnvidia=true
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Old 9th April 2017, 22:59   #3178  |  Link
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2017.03.26.1

I noticed that under the Audio Tab/Audio Encoding Options/Filtering, whenever I set "Downmix" to custom and regardless of what I place for the remix call, when I add the project to the queue I receive the error message "Unsupported downmix call 2, custom!" twice.

Is this a bug or am I butchering my custom sox call?

Let me know if you would like a log.

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2017.04.09 - 11:09:24_Windows 7-32bit_2017.03.26.1 - level 8:  creating sox call,...
2017.04.09 - 11:09:24_Windows 7-32bit_2017.03.26.1 - level 8: soxRemixCall input count 2, mode: custom
2017.04.09 - 11:09:24_Windows 7-32bit_2017.03.26.1 - level 8: Unsupported downmix call 2, custom!

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It's a bug.
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Old 10th April 2017, 20:22   #3180  |  Link
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Hybrid rev 2017.04.10.1:
*fixed*
  • audio: fix sox custom remix
  • x264: cbr handling
  • avisynth: using QTGMC with TIVTC/TDeint
  • Vapoursynth: DVD input handling
  • tools: some problems loading tools
*changed*
  • x265: added support for --limit-sao
  • vpx: added support for --row-mt
  • Vapoursynth: set frame properties (color matrix/range) for input to make sure they are set
  • ui: enable tool tip side bar by default
  • ui: only show available deinterlacers

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