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Old 1st November 2009, 23:10   #1061  |  Link
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ac3 audio below minimum

I think I see what is happening. It looks like if you convert from another audio format, such as .mp3, it honors the minimum bitrate.

But it seems if the audio is already .ac3, even if the bitrate is below the minimum, it is just muxed in with no processing if
"preserve compliant ac3 audio" option is checked.

here's a log from the clip with .mp3 audio

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<11/1/2009 4:41:42 PM>
START PROCESS
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<11/1/2009 4:41:42 PM>
PROJECT SETTINGS

DVD Video Standard: NTSC
DVD Titles number: 1
DVD Size: 639/4450 MB (14%)
DVD Output Setup: DVD Folder
DVD Label: TestClip
DVD Menu: No Menu
Output Folder: C:\DVD\AVStoDVD_Out
Save Log file: Yes
Delete Temp Process Files: Yes
Delete Working Files: Yes
Edit Command Parameters: No
Post Process Task: Show Progress Status window

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<11/1/2009 4:41:42 PM>
TITLE 1 SOURCE FILES
Video: C:\DVD\TestClip.avi
Info: DivX 5 - 1014 kbps - 640x352 - DAR 1.818 - 23.976 fps - Progressive - 10:09 minutes - 14625 frames
Audio: C:\DVD\TestClip.avi
Info: MPEG-1 Audio layer 3 - 32 kbps - CBR - 48000Hz - 2ch - 10:10 minutes
Subs:
[MediaInfoLib - v0.7.23]
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<11/1/2009 4:41:42 PM>
AVISYNTH SCRIPT
Import("C:\Program Files (x86)\AVStoDVD\Lib\A2DSource.avsi")

Video = A2DVideoSource("C:\DVD\TestClip.avi", CacheFolder = "C:\Users\Owner\AppData\Local\Temp")
Audio = A2DAudioSource("C:\DVD\TestClip.avi", CacheFolder = "C:\Users\Owner\AppData\Local\Temp")

Video = Video.ConvertToYV12
#Using DGPulldown to upsize FPS
Video = Video.AddBorders(0,4,0,4)
Video = Video.Lanczos4Resize(720,480)

AudioDub(Video, Audio)
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<11/1/2009 4:41:42 PM>
START VIDEO ENCODING OPERATIONS
Encoding Profile: QuEnc CBR 1-pass
Target Video FileSize: 618.1 MB
QuEnc Parameters: -i "C:\Users\Owner\AppData\Local\Temp\TestClip_0_TestClip.avs" -o "C:\DVD\AVStoDVD_Out\TestClip_0_TestClip.m2v" -b 8500 -1 -hq -novbr -scene -trell -aspectratio 16:9 -nointerlaced -mpeg2mux noaudio -dc 10 -priority 5 -auto -close
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<11/1/2009 4:46:44 PM>
END VIDEO ENCODING OPERATIONS
A2DVideoSource: AVISource
Created File: C:\DVD\AVStoDVD_Out\TestClip_0_TestClip.m2v (618 MB)
OUTPUT VIDEO INFO: MPEG-2 Video - 8572 kbps - 720x480 - DAR 1.778 - 23.976 fps - Progressive - 10:09 minutes - 14610 frames
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<11/1/2009 4:46:44 PM>
START PULLDOWN OPERATIONS
DGPulldown Parameters: "C:\DVD\AVStoDVD_Out\TestClip_0_TestClip.m2v" -srcfps 23.976 -destfps 29.97 -inplace -bff
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<11/1/2009 4:47:14 PM>
END PULLDOWN OPERATIONS
DGPulldown executed on File: C:\DVD\AVStoDVD_Out\TestClip_0_TestClip.m2v (618 MB)
OUTPUT VIDEO INFO: MPEG-2 Video - 8565 kbps - 720x480 - DAR 1.778 - 23.976 fps - Progressive (2:3 Pulldown) - 10:09 minutes - 14622 frames
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<11/1/2009 4:47:14 PM>
START AUDIO ENCODING OPERATIONS
Wavi+Aften Parameters: "C:\Users\Owner\AppData\Local\Temp\TestClip_0_TestClip.avs" - | "C:\Program Files (x86)\AVStoDVD\Aften\aften.exe" -b 224 - "C:\DVD\AVStoDVD_Out\TestClip_0_TestClip.ac3"
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<11/1/2009 4:47:35 PM>
END AUDIO ENCODING OPERATIONS
A2DAudioSource: DirectShowSource
Created File: C:\DVD\AVStoDVD_Out\TestClip_0_TestClip.ac3 (16.3 MB)
OUTPUT AUDIO INFO: AC3 - 224 kbps - CBR - 48000Hz - 2ch - 10:10 minutes
<>

<11/1/2009 4:47:36 PM>
START DVD AUTHORING OPERATIONS
BatchMux Parameters: -arglist "C:\Users\Owner\AppData\Local\Temp\TestClip_0_BatchMux.ini"
BatchMux ini file:
-d "C:\DVD\AVStoDVD_Out\TestClip_0\VIDEO_TS"
-mxp "C:\Users\Owner\AppData\Local\Temp\TestClip_0_MuxMan.mxp"
-l "C:\Users\Owner\AppData\Local\Temp\TestClip_0_MuxMan.log"
-muxman "C:\Program Files (x86)\AVStoDVD\MuxMan"
-prio LOW
-v "C:\DVD\AVStoDVD_Out\TestClip_0_TestClip.m2v"
-vidmode LB
-a1 "C:\DVD\AVStoDVD_Out\TestClip_0_TestClip.ac3"
-a1lang en
-cellfr "C:\Users\Owner\AppData\Local\Temp\TestClip_0_TestClip_MuxMan.txt"
-progfr "C:\Users\Owner\AppData\Local\Temp\TestClip_0_TestClip_MuxMan.txt"
-chapfr "C:\Users\Owner\AppData\Local\Temp\TestClip_0_TestClip_MuxMan.txt"

<>

<11/1/2009 4:47:42 PM>
END DVD AUTHORING OPERATIONS
Created Folder: C:\DVD\AVStoDVD_Out\TestClip_0 (643.4 MB)
<>

<11/1/2009 4:47:43 PM>
Log file created by AVStoDVD Release 2.2.3
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==============================================

The same clip but I used AviDemux to convert the audio to
ac3 192

==============================================
<11/1/2009 4:53:20 PM>
START PROCESS
<>

<11/1/2009 4:53:20 PM>
PROJECT SETTINGS

DVD Video Standard: NTSC
DVD Titles number: 1
DVD Size: 636/4450 MB (14%)
DVD Output Setup: DVD Folder
DVD Label: TestClip2
DVD Menu: No Menu
Output Folder: C:\DVD\AVStoDVD_Out
Save Log file: Yes
Delete Temp Process Files: Yes
Delete Working Files: Yes
Edit Command Parameters: No
Post Process Task: Show Progress Status window

<>

<11/1/2009 4:53:20 PM>
TITLE 1 SOURCE FILES
Video: C:\DVD\TestClip2.avi
Info: DivX 5 - 1014 kbps - 640x352 - DAR 1.818 - 23.976 fps - Progressive - 10:09 minutes - 14625 frames
Audio: C:\DVD\TestClip2.avi
Info: AC3 - 192 kbps - CBR - 48000Hz - 2ch - 10:09 minutes
Subs:
[MediaInfoLib - v0.7.23]
<>

<11/1/2009 4:53:20 PM>
AVISYNTH SCRIPT
Import("C:\Program Files (x86)\AVStoDVD\Lib\A2DSource.avsi")

Video = A2DVideoSource("C:\DVD\TestClip2.avi", CacheFolder = "C:\Users\Owner\AppData\Local\Temp")
# Audio is frameserved by AviSynth just for Preview and Edit purposes.
Audio = A2DAudioSource("C:\DVD\TestClip2.avi", CacheFolder = "C:\Users\Owner\AppData\Local\Temp")

Video = Video.ConvertToYV12
#Using DGPulldown to upsize FPS
Video = Video.AddBorders(0,4,0,4)
Video = Video.Lanczos4Resize(720,480)

AudioDub(Video, Audio)
<>

<11/1/2009 4:53:20 PM>
START VIDEO ENCODING OPERATIONS
Encoding Profile: QuEnc CBR 1-pass
Target Video FileSize: 618.1 MB
QuEnc Parameters: -i "C:\Users\Owner\AppData\Local\Temp\TestClip2_0_TestClip2.avs" -o "C:\DVD\AVStoDVD_Out\TestClip2_0_TestClip2.m2v" -b 8500 -1 -hq -novbr -scene -trell -aspectratio 16:9 -nointerlaced -mpeg2mux noaudio -dc 10 -priority 5 -auto -close
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<11/1/2009 4:58:24 PM>
END VIDEO ENCODING OPERATIONS
A2DVideoSource: AVISource
Created File: C:\DVD\AVStoDVD_Out\TestClip2_0_TestClip2.m2v (618 MB)
OUTPUT VIDEO INFO: MPEG-2 Video - 8572 kbps - 720x480 - DAR 1.778 - 23.976 fps - Progressive - 10:09 minutes - 14610 frames
<>

<11/1/2009 4:58:24 PM>
START PULLDOWN OPERATIONS
DGPulldown Parameters: "C:\DVD\AVStoDVD_Out\TestClip2_0_TestClip2.m2v" -srcfps 23.976 -destfps 29.97 -inplace -bff
<>

<11/1/2009 4:58:53 PM>
END PULLDOWN OPERATIONS
DGPulldown executed on File: C:\DVD\AVStoDVD_Out\TestClip2_0_TestClip2.m2v (618 MB)
OUTPUT VIDEO INFO: MPEG-2 Video - 8565 kbps - 720x480 - DAR 1.778 - 23.976 fps - Progressive (2:3 Pulldown) - 10:09 minutes - 14622 frames
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<11/1/2009 4:58:53 PM>
START AUDIO DEMUXING OPERATIONS
FFmpeg Parameters: -i "C:\DVD\TestClip2.avi" -acodec copy "C:\DVD\AVStoDVD_Out\TestClip2_0_TestClip2.ToFix.ac3"
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<11/1/2009 4:59:04 PM>
END AUDIO ENCODING OPERATIONS
Created File: C:\DVD\AVStoDVD_Out\TestClip2_0_TestClip2.ac3 (14 MB)
OUTPUT AUDIO INFO: AC3 - 192 kbps - CBR - 48000Hz - 2ch - 10:09 minutes
<>

<11/1/2009 4:59:04 PM>
START DVD AUTHORING OPERATIONS
BatchMux Parameters: -arglist "C:\Users\Owner\AppData\Local\Temp\TestClip2_0_BatchMux.ini"
BatchMux ini file:
-d "C:\DVD\AVStoDVD_Out\TestClip2_0\VIDEO_TS"
-mxp "C:\Users\Owner\AppData\Local\Temp\TestClip2_0_MuxMan.mxp"
-l "C:\Users\Owner\AppData\Local\Temp\TestClip2_0_MuxMan.log"
-muxman "C:\Program Files (x86)\AVStoDVD\MuxMan"
-prio LOW
-v "C:\DVD\AVStoDVD_Out\TestClip2_0_TestClip2.m2v"
-vidmode LB
-a1 "C:\DVD\AVStoDVD_Out\TestClip2_0_TestClip2.ac3"
-a1lang en
-cellfr "C:\Users\Owner\AppData\Local\Temp\TestClip2_0_TestClip2_MuxMan.txt"
-progfr "C:\Users\Owner\AppData\Local\Temp\TestClip2_0_TestClip2_MuxMan.txt"
-chapfr "C:\Users\Owner\AppData\Local\Temp\TestClip2_0_TestClip2_MuxMan.txt"

<>

<11/1/2009 4:59:11 PM>
END DVD AUTHORING OPERATIONS
Created Folder: C:\DVD\AVStoDVD_Out\TestClip2_0 (641 MB)
<>

<11/1/2009 4:59:11 PM>
Log file created by AVStoDVD Release 2.2.3
<>


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I haven't done test runs yet with HC but maybe you can tell from this if the "preserve ac3" setting is supposed to keep the audio regardless of bitrate or it's supposed to process if below the minimum. I guess a case could be made for either setting.
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That's right, if you leave "Keep DVD-Compliant Audio" on, then audio will be taken as-it-is, without reconversion, thus without changing the bitrate.



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How I can change some default settings in AVS script? For example, I want to use Spline36 instead Spline16, AssumeFPS(25) instead DG pulldown and add hard-coded subtitles before resize (subtitles look fat by default). There is also ConvertToYV12() even if video is already YV12. Don't know it that conversion degrade quality or reduce speed in this case, but I remove it everytime just to be sure.

These can be done manually but it is quite annoying to change them for each video.

Is it possible to do PAL 4% speed-up for audio inside AVS script which AVStoDVD accepts? For now, I convert audio tracks with audio editor and it is quite annoying task.
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I have an Intel dual core setup. IS there any way to make AVStoDVD run at 100% CPU instead of the 70-75% average?

p.s. running at 100% at low priority is perfectly fine.
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I want to use Spline36 instead Spline16
What do you think about to have a external txt file that contains the list of AVS Resizers? Or a win registry key?

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AssumeFPS(25) instead DG pulldown ...
Is it possible to do PAL 4% speed-up for audio inside AVS script which AVStoDVD accepts? For now, I convert audio tracks with audio editor and it is quite annoying task.
Nope. AssumeFPS is not correct: it change the speed rate of the video footage, requiring audio speed-up. That's mean altering the clip.

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add hard-coded subtitles before resize (subtitles look fat by default).
Arguable. Inserting TextSub before Resize would cause subs to be resized as well, loosing the good resolution they have now. Any other users opinion?

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There is also ConvertToYV12() even if video is already YV12. Don't know it that conversion degrade quality or reduce speed in this case, but I remove it everytime just to be sure.
It does not. It is simply not applied.

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p.s. running at 100% at low priority is perfectly fine.
Are you referring to QuEnc or HCenc? If QuEnc, it is no longer developed, so you have to give up hope. If HCenc, you can address your request to its father, hank315.



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What do you think about to have a external txt file that contains the list of AVS Resizers? Or a win registry key?

Nope. AssumeFPS is not correct: it change the speed rate of the video footage, requiring audio speed-up. That's mean altering the clip.

Arguable. Inserting TextSub before Resize would cause subs to be resized as well, loosing the good resolution they have now. Any other users opinion?
I found resize setting from registry which seems to work. For those who are too afraid to touch registry could benefit from txt file or custom resize option.

Some prefer AssumeFPS for smoother playback. Just a thought, if you could give alternative option for frame rate conversion without using external program like audio editor.

Anamorphic DVDs have narrow image by default which will be widened to the correct aspect ratio. Now AVStoDVD puts hard-coded subtitles to that narrow image so subtitles will expand and look fat. Maybe I could use narrow font for subtitles to correct this, but then it again requires work outside AVStoDVD. Although I have noticed that subtitles look better, if source video has high resolution and vice versa.
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Some prefer AssumeFPS for smoother playback. Just a thought, if you could give alternative option for frame rate conversion without using external program like audio editor.
I do not like it very much, anyway, you can try to edit the AVS script, remove the #DGPulldown comment and add at the end of the script (after AudioDub) this line:

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AssumeFPS("pal_film",true).ResampleAudio(48000)
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Thanks, MrC. It seems to work. Does AVStoDVD sync 24 fps subtitles automatically to 25 fps when frame rate is converted to 25 fps? First I used 25 fps synced subtitles and they were wrong, but 24 fps ones were synced properly.

From some reason DVD subtitles don't work, at least Media Player Classic HC has gray subtitles menu, so I use hard-coded ones.
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AVStoDVD does not any fps conversion with subs. What subs format are you using? If SRT (text based), be careful they are formatted as ANSI and not UNICODE text. Otherwise SubtitlesCreator (used to do srt2sup) reject them.



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That is weird. I checked finished DVD with DGindex and it showed 25.000 fps when original was 23.976 fps. Subtitles are timed properly and they were for 24 fps.

Yes, I use SRT format for subtitles. Should try supported formats then.
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AVStoDVD release 2.2.4 is out.

Change log:

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- Some bugs fixed
- Added 'Copy Title Settings' in Title Edit Section
- Added AVS Resize Filter 'Spline64Resize' (see help section for more details about filter choice)
- Added possibility to insert custom AVS Resize Filter in 'Preferences'/'Encoding'
- Added "-pad 0" to Aften command line to avoid initial 5 ms delay
- Changed Misc option 'Change ffdshow Mixer Output to same as input' to 'Adjust ffdshow Mixer Output at runtime' (mixer is adjusted to match required channels when needed and not when AVStoDVD starts/ends)
- Improved AviSynth script reading properties routine
- Improved log activity (added Preferences list)
- Improved support to VFR (Variable Frame Rate) video
- FFMpegSource updated to 2.12 (A2DSouce.avsi updated accordingly)
- MediaInfo updated to 0.7.24
A lot of polishing and just one big news (in bold) for users that love multi titles DVDs.



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I see that the new 2.2.4 still uses HC Encoder 0.23. Is the latest 0.24 beta not good enough yet? Any advantages to using it, or things to avoid if using it? Thanks.
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I see that the new 2.2.4 still uses HC Encoder 0.23. Is the latest 0.24 beta not good enough yet? Any advantages to using it, or things to avoid if using it? Thanks.
Simply I have not yet tested 0.24 beta enough to make sure that update is 100% risks free. Anyway, you can rename hcenc024.exe to hcenc.exe and overwrite the exe (0.23) that comes with AVStoDVD. Any feedback on compliance will be appreciated.

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I've been using the Oct. 20 HC 0.24 beta and the only difference I've noticed is it seems to run a bit faster on my quad core. I did an identical DVD-RB project using 0.23 then using the Oct. 20 0.24 and noted the elapsed time for video processing. The DVD-RB scenario is multiple instance rather than multi-thread though. I haven't done any timings with AVStoDVD but the output looks fine.
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Thanks for the HCenc 0.24 beta testing. As soon as Hank will consider it stable and publish some documentation about the new feats, I will think about to support it.



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AVStoDVD release 2.2.4 is out.
Thanks for an excellent tool.

Any chance that you could implement Unicode support?
Right now, any unicode character in the file name would cause error in reading the file; and I would love to have unicode support in srt files too. TIA.
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Unicode support in SRT subs (conversion from Unicode/UTF-8 to ANSI) will be supported in the next release (I hope to throw it out before Christmas).

Instead unicode chars in the filename is really a big issue: all the thirtd part sw used by A2D should support it and unfortunately they do not.



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Conversion with this program takes way too much time. I counted about 6 hours, while ConvertXtoDVD takes about 2-3 hours for one movie. Even giving a little sharper picture quality. Big issue which needs improvement.
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Conversion with this program takes way too much time. I counted about 6 hours, while ConvertXtoDVD takes about 2-3 hours for one movie. Even giving a little sharper picture quality. Big issue which needs improvement.
Check your settings. They make a big impact on how long it takes. Two pass takes twice as long, maybe more. Old versions of ConvertX didn't even offer that feature; not sure if it does now since I don't use it.
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