VRO MPEG2 question

Remicade · 29th December 2010, 11:34

I have a Panasonic camcorder, the final result is PAL 25 fps interlaced 704x576, I want to encode to H264 MKV to save space. When I see the mkv on LCD the quality is worse and I think is because I de-interlace ? What can I do to save space and have ~ same quality like the primary source (VRO file)?

SeeMoreDigital · 29th December 2010, 15:04

Have a look here: http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=158407

Ghitulescu · 29th December 2010, 16:14

Why reencode? Because it's trendy to use H.264 and/or MKV? You need space? There are plenty of camcorders, cellphones and photocameras that can film directly in H.264, saving you not only space but also the time to convert.

You can "reauthor" the DVD using TDA any version, almost transparent for the quality, then burn the result on a DVD. People not knowing how to properly use software would obtain better results if they let the player/TV do the deinterlacing for them (as you told us, since the LCDs are non-interlaced).

mariush · 29th December 2010, 16:27

His source is probably MPEG2 8-12 mbps, and he probably wants to compress to h264 for less size.

Ghitulescu · 29th December 2010, 19:12

There are camcorder files, never 12Mbps, probably around 6 or less.

Remicade · 30th December 2010, 07:50

My source is VRO MPEG2 17-18 minutes ~ 1,3 Gb (~ 9543 Kbps/s), I want to encode to save space. I made some tests and if I use TFF50 (deinterlace in Ripbot) the result is much much better, problem solved

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Another test with HCEnc with TomsMoComp as a deinterlace filter, the result is very good but the size of the file is bigger. I go with the mkv it's "trendy"

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Blue_MiSfit · 31st December 2010, 09:00

Try something newer than TomsMoComp. YADIF (or ideally YADIFMod + NNEDI3) is a great way to start. QTGMC if you can spend some time

Derek

Remicade · 1st January 2011, 10:27

I try QTGMC Deinterlacing Script, the result is AMAZING; every day in this forum I learn something new thank you

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Remicade Registered User Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Romania Posts: 98	My source is VRO MPEG2 17-18 minutes ~ 1,3 Gb (~ 9543 Kbps/s), I want to encode to save space. I made some tests and if I use TFF50 (deinterlace in Ripbot) the result is much much better, problem solved . Another test with HCEnc with TomsMoComp as a deinterlace filter, the result is very good but the size of the file is bigger. I go with the mkv it's "trendy" . Last edited by Remicade; 30th December 2010 at 12:22.

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29th December 2010, 16:14	#3 \| Link
Ghitulescu Registered User Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Germany Posts: 5,769	Why reencode? Because it's trendy to use H.264 and/or MKV? You need space? There are plenty of camcorders, cellphones and photocameras that can film directly in H.264, saving you not only space but also the time to convert. You can "reauthor" the DVD using TDA any version, almost transparent for the quality, then burn the result on a DVD. People not knowing how to properly use software would obtain better results if they let the player/TV do the deinterlacing for them (as you told us, since the LCDs are non-interlaced).

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mariush Registered User Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 589	His source is probably MPEG2 8-12 mbps, and he probably wants to compress to h264 for less size.

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Ghitulescu Registered User Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Germany Posts: 5,769	There are camcorder files, never 12Mbps, probably around 6 or less.

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Remicade Registered User Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Romania Posts: 98	I try QTGMC Deinterlacing Script, the result is AMAZING; every day in this forum I learn something new thank you