madVR - high quality video renderer (GPU assisted)

[Devrim]

Do I have to reinstall madVR everytime there is an update or can I just replace the files?

[dansrfe]

Just replace the files in your current madVR folder with the ones from the folder in madVR.zip

[secvensor]

Originally Posted by soukyuu

i'm more thrilled about the black frames being possibly fixed

+100500

[ryrynz]

Originally Posted by madshi;1637601[code

* fixed: #084: occasional black frames with smooth motion

Was it a race condition as suspected by another user? I found that by disabling 'use separate device' and changing all the flush options to 'don't flush' I avoided seeing this occur.

[secvensor]

At me a problem with black colour.
The most dark zones are shown green-grey.

[xabregas]

thats a problem with that specific movie

sherlock holmes 2 was a pain with wrong colour levels, i needed to tweak gamma a bit to make the movie watchable

[cyberbeing]

Originally Posted by madshi

It might be a better idea to get the XySubFilter devs to implement proper multi-threading.

Patches welcome.

This is a difficult problem to solve when it comes to ass subtitles which are sequential in nature, especially since we desire to maintain near-identical compatibility to VSFilter output. This is nothing we intend to focus our time on. For the script Soukyuu speaks of we are already a few times faster than Libass, and at a certain point people authoring scripts need to exhibit self-control.

[secvensor]

xabregas
Hm.
OK.

[cyberbeing]

For anybody wondering, if you want subtitles from XySubFilter to show up in your madVR screenshots with MPC-HC there are a couple ways to do so:

First ensure that the Trade Quality for Performance option "optimize subtitle quality for performance instead of quality" is disabled. This is needed to ensure madVR blends subtitles early enough into the video frame to be included in screenshots.

A) Save the screenshot when the video is viewed at Original Video Size prior to resizing (100% Zoom, except on anamorphic video).

B) Save the screenshot at any Zoom level or fullscreen, when the "Render to Original Video Size" option is enabled in XySubFilter (note that this is a lower-quality option similar in appearance to VSFilter.dll RGB output)

This limitation exists because madVR outputs screenshots at original video size, prior to resizing the video frame. Without doing A) or B) the subtitle will only be alpha-blended into the video frame after resizing. Removing this limitation is something on madshi's to-do list, but no timeline that I'm aware of. For the time being you'll need to make do with the above, if you want subtitles in your screenshots with XySubFilter.

[xabregas]

Hey Madshi im not sure how but i solved the ghosting probblem entirely by reverting from windows8 x64 to win7 x86

Now i just want to know if smooth motion will be affected by having the "pulldown detection" checked on CCC or not

TIA

[Keiyakusha]

Originally Posted by cyberbeing

For anybody wondering, if you want subtitles from XySubFilter to show up in your madVR screenshots with MPC-HC there are a couple ways to do so:

Actualy I find it good that subs can't be screenshoted. I was always finding myself disabling vsfilter before I want to do a screenshot... There is some rare cases when I want to show the text to someone. But in 99% cases I don't see why would someone want this.

[cyberbeing]

It can go both ways. There appears to be a segment of our userbase who used xy-VSFilter instead of the MPC-HC ISR for the sole reason that it makes it easy to take screenshots with subtitles to share with others. These users seem to require that 99% of there screenshots are taken including subtitles. You can always turn subtitles off before taking a screenshot, but you cannot suddenly add a function to take screenshots with subtitles included where none exists.

[06_taro]

Will it be easier if madVR adds a keyboard shortcut to toggle whether screenshots are taken with or without subtitles, when using XySubFilter or any other future filters of the same interface?

[cyberbeing]

Probably, but it's ultimately up to madshi. Though as mention above, no timeline. It could be months or more before he gets around to enhancing madVR's screenshot behavior.

I'm just happy it's at least in this half & half state at the moment to serve users with either preference, with only a minor inconvenience at times.

[madshi]

Originally Posted by ryrynz

Was it a race condition as suspected by another user?

No. It was a simple math/logic error.

Originally Posted by xabregas

Now i just want to know if smooth motion will be affected by having the "pulldown detection" checked on CCC or not

No.

[ikarad]

Originally Posted by madshi

You may want to change to XySubFilter, not to xy-vsfilter. XySubFilter allows you to render subtitles in the same quality as MPC's internal subtitle filter - but with less CPU consumption, with correct colors and with correctly scaled 3D effects. The MPC internal subtitle filter is slower, shows incorrect colors and has problems scaling certain ASS effects correctly.

What are the differences between xy-vsfilter and Xysubfilter?

[pirlouy]

Wrong thread + no search: http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=168282
Don't upset madshi please. :-)

[ikarad]

Originally Posted by madshi

Some people are reporting ghosting. I don't know why, I don't see it myself. Either I'm just not as perceptive to this kind of artifacts, or maybe your display uses a different refresh rate than 60Hz. E.g. if your display internally uses 70Hz, then it will probably repeat some frames to get from 60Hz to 70Hz. If those repeated frames happen to be madVR blended frames, you will see obvious ghosting. But I don't really know if that's what's happening on your PC. Can your display handle 72Hz in native display resolution? If so, try that.

Reclock is not needed for smooth motion to work correctly.
.

1)With a 120hz monitor, smooth motion is it necassary or not?
2) With a 120hz monitor, smooth motion bring ameliorations or not?

[DragonQ]

With a 120 Hz monitor you wouldn't need smooth motion except for 25/50 fps stuff.

It does baffle me that any TV worth its salt can do 24, 50 and 60 Hz natively (or with integer multiples) but no PC monitors can, AFAIK, even the newer 120 Hz ones.

[Moragg]

madshi: could you please add a link to the xy-subfilter thread in the first post so people know about it?