madVR - high quality video renderer (GPU assisted)

[madshi]

Please ignore the color change, that's just a gamut/matrix mismatch, I think.

[AngelGraves13]

Originally Posted by madshi

Please ignore the color change, that's just a gamut/matrix mismatch, I think.

Can you please post a photo with SuperRes 4 with NG1? Should really consider a name change for that algo. I recommended one 2 posts above

[cyberscott]

Originally Posted by madshi

Fair enough. Unfortunately I need more time, maybe a week, I don't know. I'll give you a little teaser, though, to ease the waiting. The new algo is probably going to be called "NG1" (next generation version 1). It's my own algorithm. It's not finished, but image quality will probably not change much, anymore.

original -- | -- Jinc AR -- | -- super-xbr 100 -- | -- NNEDI3 256 taps + SuperRes 4 -- | -- NG1 (wip) -- | -- waifu2x

FWIW, waifu2x is much too slow for realtime use, I only added it as a reference point for image quality. I've picked this American Dad image because it shows big differences between the various upscaling algorithms. With natural images the difference is smaller.

I'll not answer any questions at this time.

Very interesting. I did notice a small contrast or color shift between the the NNED13 and the NG1 pictures. Look specifically at the red dress or the drapes. In the NG1 processed capture, the color red stays identical to the original while the NNED13 "brightens" the red dress slightly. So, to my eyes, NG1 stays true to the original as far as colors are concerned. Looking forward to trying NG1 when up-scaling to 4K.

[huhn]

so here are my thoughts on the new algorithm. i judged these images on a bad 6 bit nt panel because there is so proper way to judge such a small image on a UHD screen.

NG1 is removing some lines on the wood wallpaper thingy which looks strange. waifux2 does this too. but the source resolution is low.

all x2 algorithm have problems with the top white part of the red dress and NG1(i guess this is a 2x algo too) has this problem too. superXBR is really bad there.

waifux2 is sharper but looks "wrong" the powerswitch looks "deformed" NG1 does this better. i would say that NG1is clearly better in this image than waifux2 at least to me.
waifux2 terrible fails at the necklace just saying...

the name NG1 is fine if you ask me. no "super/mega" stuff no waifu stuff...

[Shiandow]

Originally Posted by madshi

Fair enough. Unfortunately I need more time, maybe a week, I don't know. I'll give you a little teaser, though, to ease the waiting. The new algo is probably going to be called "NG1" (next generation version 1). It's my own algorithm. It's not finished, but image quality will probably not change much, anymore.

original -- | -- Jinc AR -- | -- super-xbr 100 -- | -- NNEDI3 256 taps + SuperRes 4 -- | -- NG1 (wip) -- | -- waifu2x

That's an impressive improvement on the previous methods.

[Warner306]

I like the new algorithm but wonder about the performance cost. Is it accessible to a GTX 750 Ti with a 1080p display?

[madshi]

Originally Posted by Shiandow

That's an impressive improvement on the previous methods.

Thank you...

[digitech]

The new Madshi upscaler algo is the best i have seen in months here and years against other scalers

[MariaX9]

Looks very good, can't wait for the release. Madshi always delivers. *thumbsup

[ryrynz]

Originally Posted by Warner306

I like the new algorithm but wonder about the performance cost. Is it accessible to a GTX 750 Ti with a 1080p display?

Probably at the limits at that card but it depends on all your other settings at most importantly what resolution the content is that you're starting off with. I upgraded to a 960 and it was worth while, you may wish to consider that or a 1060. I picked up a 960 for the same price as I sold my 750 for so it was a good upgrade.

Originally Posted by huhn

NG1 is removing some lines on the wood wallpaper thingy which looks strange. waifux2 does this too. but the source resolution is low.

Not seeing this at all. Please point it out.

Originally Posted by cyberscott

Very interesting. I did notice a small contrast or color shift between the the NNED13 and the NG1 pictures. Look specifically at the red dress or the drapes. In the NG1 processed capture, the color red stays identical to the original while the NNED13 "brightens" the red dress slightly.

That won't be NNEDI3, that will be SR4 which is why I asked for the NNEDI3 image alone. I don't have enough time to post it but you should run the original through madVR with NNEDI3 256 and compare to that instead.

[huhn]

here: https://abload.de/img/linesnqs80.png

the black line is barely notable.

[aufkrawall]

But it still is notable. This is probably what has to happen when some line thinning and deringing is going on with this source.

[ryrynz]

I would think improving that would have big implications for the entire image. The line is better in ng1 anyway. Madshi may possibly add line darkening in future.

[aufkrawall]

Originally Posted by ryrynz

The line is better in ng1 anyway.

Ever so slightly. Increased image size with NNEDI3 256:

NG1:


waifu2x:


(This is of course not how it would look with true NG1/waifu2x upscaling to that size, but it should give an idea.)

What's more apparent is that weird bright pattern, but I'd be surprised if madshi wasn't aware of it.

[huhn]

the pattern is all over the image.

to bad that we can't separate Y, CB and CR using control+shift+alternate+F12 with a png screen.

[jerryleungwh]

Originally Posted by madshi

Fair enough. Unfortunately I need more time, maybe a week, I don't know. I'll give you a little teaser, though, to ease the waiting. The new algo is probably going to be called "NG1" (next generation version 1). It's my own algorithm. It's not finished, but image quality will probably not change much, anymore.

original -- | -- Jinc AR -- | -- super-xbr 100 -- | -- NNEDI3 256 taps + SuperRes 4 -- | -- NG1 (wip) -- | -- waifu2x

FWIW, waifu2x is much too slow for realtime use, I only added it as a reference point for image quality. I've picked this American Dad image because it shows big differences between the various upscaling algorithms. With natural images the difference is smaller.

I'll not answer any questions at this time.

The new algorithm looks really nice, I'd say the best comparing with the other pictures you provided, but I really doubt if I have a powerful enough GPU for it

[leeperry]

yeah amazing but is it a GPU hog?

[Betroz]

I honestly can't see any difference in IQ between NNEDI3 and NG1 images, or between NG1 and waifu2x for that matter, sorry.

[Sunset1982]

Originally Posted by Betroz

I honestly can't see any difference in IQ between NNEDI3 and NG1 images, or between NG1 and waifu2x for that matter, sorry.

you have to open both and switch fast between them to see the difference.

NG1 is sharper and have less artifacts/ringing. look at the eyes of the left woman. With nnedi3 you see a bit ringing under the eyes. With NG1 it is a lot cleaner.

[ryrynz]

Originally Posted by leeperry

but is it a GPU hog?

My expectations are around NNEDI3 128-256 neurons worth of hogging.