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Thanks for sending the original and modified commands. I'm also very confused here. In your post showing the modified precommand area (i.e. after kill playback) in VMG-2, I can see that the break has been changed into a goto, which is normal. I would expect that to work normally! But then you say: Quote:
So, can you clarify? If you just do what 2COOL was asking: blanking out all your VMGM menus with PgcEdit only, but don't change anything else!, does that render the DVD unusable??? If it does, then we have a real problem, because that's supposed to work! If the DVD plays normally (except you no longer see the video) that's good, and if it breaks after your next modification (the JumpTT command), then that's not surprising, for the reasons I explained above. So in short, it'd be great if you could confirm that PgcEdit Kill-playback does not break anything by itself, and that it's when you repleace the break by a JumpTT that things break. Thanks! Jeanl |
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To your question about changing the VMG-2: Yes of course I expect it to work. It should because all the registers are holding correct values and all that is happening is that title 1 is called after the warning/disclaimer screens. I was just calling it a bit earlier before the screens come into play. Look - all these changes, both the PGCEdit blanking and the edititing of VMG-2 works using softplayers like PowerDVD and WinDVD. They just don't work on my settop players (Panasonic and GoVideo). I appreciate your (all of you) comments. I am not even sure what it is I am looking at here. I just have a feeling that it is an exploit of the DVD spec to make omitting these annoying screens as difficult as possible. So any suggestion is more than welcome and I will retry/verify/do whatever is called for to figure this one out. |
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It is "Breakin' all the Rules" Region 1 - yes
A screenshot of the Main menu screen is attached to this message for identification. That is if I succeed in attaching the image I don't think the attachment went through. Well so be it... Last edited by northwind; 5th November 2004 at 02:53. |
5th November 2004, 05:50 | #326 | Link |
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Maybe it's a problem with the new VOB cell not matching the video attributes in the IFOs.
Northwind, could you try to blank out the VMGM with the first option enabled: "Completely remove the menu VOB file". This way, the VOB will never be played anymore.
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Humm... Difficult to say what's wrong without an error message. However, it is possible that you got an error when downloading. Try to download it again... Also, you may try to remove (or rename) the PgcEdit's configuration files, stored in "C:\Documents and Settings\<your login name>\Application Data\PgcEdit". Note that the directory "Application Data" is hidden. You may have to enable "Show hidden files and folders" in Folder Options, View tab.
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I understand that PgcEdit.exe doesn't start when you double-click on his icon, and you doesn't see any error message. Is it your problem?
If so, try what I have suggested in my previour post: download it again. If it still doesn't start, try to remove the old configuration settings... Also, you must have premission to write to the folder PgcEdit.exe is installed in, at least the first time you use it.
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Thanks for your answer. It's probably a problem related to Windows in Korean, not to PgcEdit.
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VMGM , LU 1 (en) , 5 (0:06) 0b. - Chapters: n/a, Programs: 2, Cells: 2 ********** pre commands: [00 02 00 00 00 00 00 00] 1 Break ********** post commands: [20 04 00 00 00 00 00 06] 1 LinkPGCN PGC 6 ********** cell commands: [20 01 00 00 00 00 00 0D] 1 LinkTailPGC Now if you look at PGC 6, you see: [71 00 00 0E 11 11 00 00] 1 Set gprm(14) =(mov) 4369 [61 00 00 09 00 00 00 00] 2 Set gprm(9) =(mov) gprm(0) [79 00 00 09 00 0F 00 00] 3 Set gprm(9) &=(and) 15 [00 A1 00 09 00 01 00 07] 4 if ( gprm(9) == 1 ) then { Goto line 7 } [00 A1 00 09 00 02 00 08] 5 if ( gprm(9) == 2 ) then { Goto line 8 } [30 06 00 01 03 83 00 00] 6 (JumpSS) Jump to VTSM 3, Root menu (TTN 1) [30 02 00 00 00 01 00 00] 7 (JumpTT) Jump to Title 1 [30 02 00 00 00 02 00 00] 8 (JumpTT) Jump to Title 2 There's a couple gprms initialized here, right? In one of your posts, you said: Quote:
VMG-3 VMG-5 VMG-6 and therefore you're skipping the gprm initializations that happen in VMG-6. That's potentially bad. Can you check whether Title 1 uses these gprms (14 and 9) for anything? What's surprising is that it works in your soft DVD and not on your settop DVD.... Also, could you possibly try something for us: - Can you try to skip playback without blanking of the PGCs in VMG in pgcedit? (just using the "kill PGC playback" macro? This will not blank anything, and won't change anything in the VOB, it will just modify the pre/post commands. If we find that this does work (the DVD is playable on your settop players), but a real "blank" (which affects the VOB files) does not, then we know something bad is happening when PgcEdit replaces the VOB by a small blank one... Thanks for your efforts man, it'd be great if we could get to the bottom of that!!! jeanl |
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Here is the actual navigation sequence from First Play PGC to Main Menu. Code:
First Play PGC ********** pre commands: [30 06 00 01 00 C0 00 00] 1 (JumpSS) Jump to VMGM PGC 1 ________________________________________________________ VMGM , LU 1 (en) , 1 (0:05) 0b. - Chapters: n/a, Programs: 2, Cells: 2 ********** pre commands: [71 00 00 00 10 00 00 00] 1 Set gprm(0) =(mov) 4096 [71 00 00 0A 00 00 00 00] 2 Set gprm(10) =(mov) 0 [71 00 00 0B 00 00 00 00] 3 Set gprm(11) =(mov) 0 [61 00 00 09 00 90 00 00] 4 Set gprm(9) =(mov) sprm(16:Preferred audio language) [00 A1 00 09 65 6E 00 08] 5 if ( gprm(9) == 25966 ("en") ) then { Goto line 8 } [00 A1 00 09 66 72 00 0C] 6 if ( gprm(9) == 26226 ("fr") ) then { Goto line 12 } [00 01 00 00 00 00 00 0F] 7 Goto line 15 [61 00 00 09 00 92 00 00] 15 Set gprm(9) =(mov) sprm(18:Preferred sub-picture language) [00 A1 00 09 65 6E 00 15] 16 if ( gprm(9) == 25966 ("en") ) then { Goto line 21 } [00 A1 00 09 66 72 00 18] 17 if ( gprm(9) == 26226 ("fr") ) then { Goto line 24 } [71 00 00 09 00 00 00 00] 18 Set gprm(9) =(mov) 0 [63 00 00 0A 00 09 00 00] 19 Set gprm(10) +=(add) gprm(9) [00 01 00 00 00 00 00 1A] 20 Goto line 26 [71 00 00 0E 10 03 00 00] 26 Set gprm(14) =(mov) 4099 [30 02 00 00 00 03 00 00] 27 (JumpTT) Jump to Title 3 ________________________________________________________ VTST 5 , 1 TTN 1 (0:15) Title 3 - Chapters: 2, Programs: 2, Cells: 2 ********** pre commands: [71 00 00 0E 20 03 00 00] 1 Set gprm(14) =(mov) 8195 [00 02 00 00 00 00 00 00] 2 Break Play Columbia Tristar Logo ********** post commands: [30 08 00 00 01 83 00 00] 1 (CallSS) Call the VTSM Root menu of the current VTS, resume cell 1 ________________________________________________________ VTSM 5 , LU 1 (en) , 1 (dummy) RootM - Chapters: n/a, Programs: 0, Cells: 0 ********** pre commands: [71 00 00 07 00 00 00 00] 1 Set gprm(7) =(mov) 0 [71 00 00 08 00 00 00 00] 2 Set gprm(8) =(mov) 0 [71 00 00 0D 00 01 00 00] 3 Set gprm(13) =(mov) 1 [61 00 00 09 00 0C 00 00] 4 Set gprm(9) =(mov) gprm(12) [71 00 00 0C 00 02 00 00] 5 Set gprm(12) =(mov) 2 [71 A0 0E 0E 50 00 00 00] 6 if ( gprm(14) == 0 ) then { Set gprm(14) =(mov) 20480 } [30 06 00 02 00 C0 00 00] 7 (JumpSS) Jump to VMGM PGC 2 ________________________________________________________ VMGM , LU 1 (en) , 2 (0:07) 0b. - Chapters: n/a, Programs: 2, Cells: 2 ********** pre commands: [00 A1 00 09 20 03 00 24] 1 if ( gprm(9) == 8195 ) then { Goto line 36 } [61 00 00 09 00 0E 00 00] 2 Set gprm(9) =(mov) gprm(14) [79 00 00 09 F0 00 00 00] 3 Set gprm(9) &=(and) 61440 [00 A1 00 09 20 00 00 1B] 4 if ( gprm(9) == 8192 ) then { Goto line 27 } [61 00 00 09 00 00 00 00] 27 Set gprm(9) =(mov) gprm(0) [79 00 00 09 00 0F 00 00] 28 Set gprm(9) &=(and) 15 [00 A1 00 09 00 02 00 25] 29 if ( gprm(9) == 2 ) then { Goto line 37 } [00 01 00 00 00 00 00 24] 30 Goto line 36 [30 02 00 00 00 01 00 00] 36 (JumpTT) Jump to Title 1 ________________________________________________________ VTST 3 , 1 TTN 1 (1:25:09) Title 1 - Chapters: 28, Programs: 28, Cells: 28 ********** pre commands: [00 A1 00 0E 11 11 00 33] 1 if ( gprm(14) == 4369 ) then { Goto line 51 } [61 00 00 09 00 0E 00 00] 2 Set gprm(9) =(mov) gprm(14) [79 00 00 09 F0 00 00 00] 3 Set gprm(9) &=(and) 61440 [00 A1 00 09 20 00 00 41] 4 if ( gprm(9) == 8192 ) then { Goto line 65 } [30 08 00 00 01 83 00 00] 65 (CallSS) Call the VTSM Root menu of the current VTS, resume cell 1 ________________________________________________________ VTSM 3 , LU 1 (en) , 1 (dummy) RootM - Chapters: n/a, Programs: 0, Cells: 0 ********** pre commands: [61 00 00 09 00 0E 00 00] 1 Set gprm(9) =(mov) gprm(14) [79 00 00 09 F0 00 00 00] 2 Set gprm(9) &=(and) 61440 [00 A1 00 09 20 00 00 25] 3 if ( gprm(9) == 8192 ) then { Goto line 37 } [61 00 00 02 00 0A 00 00] 37 Set gprm(2) =(mov) gprm(10) [79 00 00 02 00 7F 00 00] 38 Set gprm(2) &=(and) 127 [41 00 00 00 82 00 00 00] 39 (SetSTN) Set Sub-picture stream = gprm(2) [61 00 00 03 00 02 00 00] 40 Set gprm(3) =(mov) gprm(2) [79 00 00 03 00 3F 00 00] 41 Set gprm(3) &=(and) 63 [61 00 00 04 00 0A 00 00] 42 Set gprm(4) =(mov) gprm(10) [79 00 00 04 0F 00 00 00] 43 Set gprm(4) &=(and) 3840 [76 00 00 04 01 00 00 00] 44 Set gprm(4) /=(div) 256 [79 00 00 04 00 0F 00 00] 45 Set gprm(4) &=(and) 15 [41 00 00 84 00 00 00 00] 46 (SetSTN) Set Audio stream = gprm(4) [20 04 00 00 00 00 00 04] 47 LinkPGCN PGC 4 ________________________________________________________ VTSM 3 , LU 1 (en) , 4 (0:29) 6b. - Chapters: n/a, Programs: 5, Cells: 5 ********** pre commands: [61 00 00 09 00 81 00 00] 1 Set gprm(9) =(mov) sprm(1:Audio stream number) [79 00 00 09 00 0F 00 00] 2 Set gprm(9) &=(and) 15 [00 E1 00 09 00 01 00 05] 3 if ( gprm(9) <= 1 ) then { Goto line 5 } [61 00 00 09 00 81 00 00] 5 Set gprm(9) =(mov) sprm(1:Audio stream number) [79 00 00 09 00 0F 00 00] 6 Set gprm(9) &=(and) 15 [75 00 00 09 01 00 00 00] 7 Set gprm(9) *=(mul) 256 [79 00 00 0B F0 FF 00 00] 8 Set gprm(11) &=(and) 61695 [63 00 00 0B 00 09 00 00] 9 Set gprm(11) +=(add) gprm(9) [00 A1 00 0E 20 03 00 33] 10 if ( gprm(14) == 8195 ) then { Goto line 51 } [71 A0 0E 0E 00 00 20 03] 51 if ( gprm(14) == 8195 ) then { Set gprm(14) =(mov) 0 } [71 A0 0E 0E 00 00 50 00] 52 if ( gprm(14) == 20480 ) then { Set gprm(14) =(mov) 0 } [71 00 00 08 00 00 00 00] 53 Set gprm(8) =(mov) 0 [71 00 00 0D 00 01 00 00] 54 Set gprm(13) =(mov) 1 [61 00 00 09 00 0A 00 00] 55 Set gprm(9) =(mov) gprm(10) [79 00 00 09 F0 00 00 00] 56 Set gprm(9) &=(and) 61440 [20 A6 00 09 10 00 04 02] 57 if ( gprm(9) == 4096 ) then { LinkPGN Program 2, button 1 (1024) } [7A 00 00 0A 10 00 00 00] 58 Set gprm(10) |=(or) 4096 [20 06 00 00 00 00 04 01] 59 LinkPGN Program 1, button 1 (1024) Main Menu
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Ha - one day - one day is all it takes to forget what you did. So I just spend an hour before it dawned on me. You missed the point, but what is worse - so did I and I came up with that stupid example. Anyway.... let me take it in order: The sequence: Yes you are right. It is a typo. In my notes it is there. VMG-6 is called before VTST-3,1 The example: That is where I in VMG-2 line 23 replaced a break with a jump to title 1. It is irrelevant. I could have put a NOP in there. Title 3 (Studio splash screen; VTST-5,1) is called and should have played regardless because it is called way before VMG-2. But it never plays. The set-tops stops never showing anything. That is what I should have pointed out. Otherwise you are right. I would need to set gprm(14) to 4369 to get title 1 playing. I was pondering that for an hour before it dawned on me that I should still have seen title-3. Duh. Sorry for that one. 2Cool: Just saw your post - this took some time to go through. Yes I agree - that is my notes as well. The jump to title 1 in VMG-2, line 23 is still valid, because it breaks the playing of title-3 Last edited by northwind; 5th November 2004 at 08:34. |
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Now, I'm really confused. Where are we standing now? I have a hard time deciding if something's wrong with the way PgcEdit kills playback or if northwind did something fishy in addition? 2COOL, you seem to have the DVD, can you replicate the problem? The reason I'm curious is that it's not the first time we've heard of people having problems with DVDs blanked with PgcEdit or Vobblanker... It'd be cool if we could get to the bottom of that... Jeanl |
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Add valid PGC, cell?
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1. How to add new valid PGC (with new associated blank video)? 2. How to add cell in existing PGC (for further pointing on existing VID/CID or for creating new associated blank video)? 3. How to remove PGC? 4. How to add new title in VMGM? 5. Why I can't jump next PGC from this, only autojump at the playend of it: ---------------------------------------- VMGM , LU 1 (ru) , 3 (0:07) 0b. - Chapters: n/a, Programs: 1, Cells: 1 ********** pre commands: ********** post commands: [20 04 00 00 00 00 00 04] 1 LinkPGCN PGC 4 ********** cell commands: ********** menu buttons commands: Playback time: 00:00:07.25 (at 30 fps) Playback mode: sequential PUOs: 16007172 (0x00F44004) - Title play (0x00000004) - Menu call - Angle (0x00004000) - Still off (0x00040000) - Audio stream change (0x00100000) - Subpicture stream change (0x00200000) - Angle change (0x00400000) - Karaoke audio mix change (0x00800000) NextPGCN: 0 PrevPGCN: 0 GoUpPGCN: 0 PGC Still Time: 0 But- Prog. Cell Type Layer Res-....Still..Cell tons..............Flags Break tricted Timel Cmd. 0......1.....1.....2......yes...no.......0.....0 ------------------------------------ |
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For now, it is only possible to add a dummy PGC to an existing VMGM. But you can inport a whole VMGM with Import Menu. This will replace the current VMGM, though. Quote:
To jump to another PGC with the Next Chapter button, you need to set the NextPGCN to the PGC number you want to jump to. Is it what you want?
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Maybe I will add a Title/Chapter/Program editor later, but don't expect that soon. Sorry. Quote:
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