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11th March 2005, 17:45 | #1 | Link |
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x264 vs VP70 vs VP62 vs RV10
23 sec of latest naruto intro at 536kbps, 2pass VBR:
x264 Encoding time: 2m00s Settings: default (b162 for amd64 (32bit)), 3 ref Decoder: ffdshow default x264 exibits squares when the scene focus and unfocus rapidly, motion errors in the yellow background with a fence. The last scene is low in details and seems washed. VP70 Encoding time: 4m28s Settings: default, sharpness 2/7 Decoder: vp70 default Small squares appeir in the first part (yellow scene). Strange shapes appeir at the end. VP62 Encoding time: 7m04s Settings: default, sharpness 7/10, spacial resampling Decoder: adaptive PP, no grain Last scene is blurier than x264. Whitout PP, it's a field of squares RV10 Encoding time: 2m01s Settings: default, old RC, EHQ high Decoder: HFE v2, no sharpening The fence scene is heavily deblocked, and the last scene is very blur. Files Detritus: Source (8MB) - x264 (2MB) - VP70 (2MB) - VP62 (2MB) - RV10 (2MB) Comments are welcome
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x264 link doesnt work, and rev169 doesnt exist (maybe 162)
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Link corrected and build # updated.
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I don't have Nero Recode, but if someone want to compress it and send me the file, I will add it.
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Sirber, r u sure encoding time of vp codec are correct? i think u have inverted them.
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Nope. Encoding time are correct. I heard VP7 had an issue with Athlon CPU, that might explain the filesize.
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Something sounds strange: i noticed vp7 1st pass is about 40% faster than vp6 1st pass but vp7 2nd pass is 3 times slower than vp6 2nd pass, so global encoding time is drastically slower for VP7 compared than vp6...and i'm sure many other people has the same feedback about encoding time. And it's strange vp6 in your test performed more than 2 times slower than vp7...
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I made a succesful VP7 encode, however its oversized. Luckily its not anymore oversized then the Real Media sample so it shouldn't be a problem
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you encoded my test.avi? What are your CPU specs?
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@Sirber
ha, finally people are experiencing the same thing I was
posting yesterday. VP7 file size is HUGE. I think it also depends on the encoding app. VDubMod seems to work but DVDx does not. Btw I have an Athlon64 3500+ (overclocked). Is there any more info on the VP7 Athlon bug? |
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I had it with avs2avi 1.39x. I heard the VP7 clip was full of iframes, high Q one and low Q one. Should be fixed soon.
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so you THINK its the other apps fault ? hmm so the fact that other codecs such as Xvid, Divx and even VP6 all work fine ,means nothing right ? no of COURSE it couldnt be the codecs fault could it. riiiight.
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I cannot play the x264 movie at all on my P3-733 Mhz @work. It loads, plays about 1 sec and gives me an exception using the latest Media Player Classic 6.4.8.3 + ffdshow-20050303-sse.exe. Yeah, I know that the CPU is old, but is SSE capable. Maybe something wrong with that ffdshow. From the 1 second I saw, I can say that x264 picture is very blocky like the old DivX 3.11 days
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I downloaded 6.4.8.3 of Media Player Classic and its file size is 4,696KB. My older 6.4.8.2 is only 1,309 KB. Why is the new version 3 times larger. They both seem to work fine. The I frame thing sounds reasonable, the quality of the "encode" is pretty good but I also saw the jumpyness. Hope we have the fix next week. |
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Furthermore I don't apreciate you infering that I was saying anymore then was specifically stated, all I was saying was that the problem doesn't occur in every encoding app, and therefore there are a lot of diffeerent possibilities. Maybe I should have worded my post more clearly. |
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