madVR - high quality video renderer (GPU assisted)

[70MM]

Originally Posted by huhn

or you just use the mask options in madVR so madVR knows you are using a mask.

The madvr mask options makes the image smaller, Im trying to make it larger...

[huhn]

i don't know how to explain it better do i really have to make screen?

by making the "image" smaller madVR will detect small boarders and is able to remove them properly it's not rocket science.

@steakhutzeee
so i repeat myself the madVR image is debanded strongly and the VLC has banding some blocking artifacts.

the main difference should be the madVR debanding filter.

[dvd1]

Originally Posted by huhn

it could be your TV but it is generally down to the eyes.

if you are talking about chroma scaling this is not visible in all images.

I was talking about image upscaling.
the differences known only when I change the parameters in ipscaling rafiniment
and not how much I change the scaler algorithms

[el Filou]

That's probably because your 'refinement' settings are too strong and cancel or at least minimize the differences of quality between the upscalers.

[steakhutzeee]

Originally Posted by huhn

i don't know how to explain it better do i really have to make screen?

by making the "image" smaller madVR will detect small boarders and is able to remove them properly it's not rocket science.

@steakhutzeee
so i repeat myself the madVR image is debanded strongly and the VLC has banding some blocking artifacts.

the main difference should be the madVR debanding filter.

I see no difference with/without that option enabled.

[dvd1]

when in upscaling rafiniment is all off and I use only the scalers not known differences or are minimal, which I inexperienced do not perceive.
how do I make real-time comparison?

[Asmodian]

If you do not notice a difference just use Jinc or something. There is no need to overthink it.

I compare by switching settings and re-watching shorter sections of different types of content.

[huhn]

Originally Posted by steakhutzeee

I see no difference with/without that option enabled.

i test the debanding on the no madVr image and it get's closer to your madVR image but it is not the same.

are you using ffdshow or something?
are there numbers in the name like black 1600 or so?

[dvd1]

Originally Posted by Asmodian

If you do not notice a difference just use Jinc or something. There is no need to overthink it.

I compare by switching settings and re-watching shorter sections of different types of content.

crhome up jnc
image dow jnc
image up jnc
up refirement off

in this way?

[ryrynz]

Try it. If you like it keep it.. Or not. Maybe learn something in the process.

[Q-the-STORM]

I've been gone for a few weeks, so I haven't read the last 30 pages or so, coming back with a new GTX 1080 ti.
HDR switching immediately worked, wonderful.

Now I'm trying my luck on getting a custom resolution to work, created a custom 2160p24 mode in the nvidia GUI (I couldn't create the custom mode in madVR, since 24Hz is listed as a standard mode and I couldn't override it, so I created the mode in nvidia's GUI) and then opened a 23.976fps video (over 30min, has audio).

Went to custom modes tab in madVR, the 24Hz mode is correctly being displayed as active and with "custom timings, not measured yet". Pressed the optimize button, got the message I'm supposed to get, clicked OK. So far so good.

Closed madVR options and started to play the video and watched it over 30min, paused and went back to custom modes tab. Still shows "custom timings, not measued yet".

What do I do?

Software:
Windows 10
most recent nvidia drivers
most recent madVR v0.92.4
MPC-HC 1.7.13, using internal LAV filters (DXVA2 copy-back)

Settings:
reduce banding: default: low; fade in/out: high

chroma up: NGU sharp, high
image up: luma doubling high; chroma high
no refinements

Automatic FSE enabled
Direct3D 11 enabled
smooth motion disabled
error diffusion option 1

Mediainfo of the video I was watching (watched it in fullscreen)

General
Unique ID                                : 215122300837375053130030932920801367987 (0xA1D70C4F8C7C9842A19BE576532317B3)
Complete name                            : Test.mkv
Format                                   : Matroska
Format version                           : Version 4 / Version 2
File size                                : 1.11 GiB
Duration                                 : 35 min 56 s
Overall bit rate                         : 4 423 kb/s
Encoded date                             : UTC 2017-10-04 18:25:46
Writing application                      : mkvmerge v15.0.0 ('Duel with the Devil') 64-bit
Writing library                          : libebml v1.3.5 + libmatroska v1.4.5

Video
ID                                       : 1
Format                                   : AVC
Format/Info                              : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile                           : High@L4
Format settings, CABAC                   : Yes
Format settings, RefFrames               : 2 frames
Codec ID                                 : V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC
Duration                                 : 35 min 55 s
Bit rate                                 : 4 295 kb/s
Width                                    : 1 920 pixels
Height                                   : 1 080 pixels
Display aspect ratio                     : 16:9
Frame rate mode                          : Constant
Frame rate                               : 23.976 (24000/1001) FPS
Color space                              : YUV
Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:0
Bit depth                                : 8 bits
Scan type                                : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)                       : 0.086
Stream size                              : 1.08 GiB (97%)
Default                                  : Yes
Forced                                   : No
Color range                              : Limited
Color primaries                          : BT.709
Transfer characteristics                 : BT.709
Matrix coefficients                      : BT.709

Audio
ID                                       : 2
Format                                   : AAC
Format/Info                              : Advanced Audio Codec
Format profile                           : LC
Codec ID                                 : A_AAC
Duration                                 : 35 min 56 s
Bit rate                                 : 126 kb/s
Channel(s)                               : 2 channels
Channel positions                        : Front: L R
Sampling rate                            : 44.1 kHz
Frame rate                               : 43.066 FPS (1024 SPF)
Compression mode                         : Lossy
Stream size                              : 32.3 MiB (3%)
Default                                  : Yes
Forced                                   : No

[hannes69]

Originally Posted by Q-the-STORM

...created a custom 2160p24 mode in the nvidia GUI...
...Still shows "custom timings, not measued yet"...
What do I do?...

madVR currently can optimize/measure a custom resolution only when created WITHIN madVR.

[Pat357]

Q-the-STORM : Why not create a new p23 mode in Madvr for 24000/1001 ?

[Q-the-STORM]

Originally Posted by hannes69

madVR currently can optimize/measure a custom resolution only when created WITHIN madVR.

Alright thanks.

Originally Posted by Pat357

Q-the-STORM : Why not create a new p23 mode in Madvr for 24000/1001 ?

Because I can't.

23, 24, 25, 29, 30, 50, 59 and 60 Hz are being listed as "standard mode" and I can't edit them ("GPU driver rejected this mode, for unknown reasons.")

So what can I do now?

[Reclunk]

23, 24, 25, 29, 30, 50, 59 and 60 Hz are being listed as "standard mode" and I can't edit them ("GPU driver rejected this mode, for unknown reasons.")

So what can I do now?[/QUOTE]

You probably have custom resolutions in the Nvidia control panel that are overriding the MadVR ones. Delete the Nvidia ones, and then you can optimize in MadVR. I rolled back to v0.92.3 because 92.4 was causing issues, but YMMV

[jmonier]

Originally Posted by Q-the-STORM

Went to custom modes tab in madVR, the 24Hz mode is correctly being displayed as active and with "custom timings, not measured yet". Pressed the optimize button, got the message I'm supposed to get, clicked OK. So far so good.

Closed madVR options and started to play the video and watched it over 30min, paused and went back to custom modes tab. Still shows "custom timings, not measued yet".

What do I do?

This is a problem that I (and several others) have seen on 92.4 (even with modes created with madVR). I'm hoping that madshi will have time soon to comment on this.

[mzso]

Can I create a freeze report any other way than the hotkey?
It doesn't seem to work for ProgDVB. I can start madHcCtrl.exe and see ProgDVB there but there's not freeze report option. Just play/pause, stop and jump.

Update:

It seems like I could generate reports by disabling "use only if media player has keyboard focus". And you can set it for all hotkeys which makes it way worse.
IMO the requirement for this is a serious handicap to a freeze report feature. Otherwise it seems you can't (or at least unlikely to) generate a freeze report when the SW using madVR is actually frozen, only when it's not. Which is a ironic...

I added them to the rest: https://drive.google.com/open?id=0By...UpvTmg4REhyTG8

[steakhutzeee]

Originally Posted by huhn

i test the debanding on the no madVr image and it get's closer to your madVR image but it is not the same.

are you using ffdshow or something?
are there numbers in the name like black 1600 or so?

I use madvr+lav filters.

What about these numbers? Where i find them?

Thanks!

[huhn]

madVR image can be alternated by the "file name" it is very unlikely this is done by accident but it happen before.

the filter list may help. with mpc-hc you can easily copy them under filter and post them here.

can you make a sample of the screen? so i can try to reproduce the issue.

and does this happen with madVR at defaults settings (you can back up your settings.bin to save your current settings).

[steakhutzeee]

Originally Posted by huhn

madVR image can be alternated by the "file name" it is very unlikely this is done by accident but it happen before.

the filter list may help. with mpc-hc you can easily copy them under filter and post them here.

can you make a sample of the screen? so i can try to reproduce the issue.

and does this happen with madVR at defaults settings (you can back up your settings.bin to save your current settings).

Well, there are numbers in the title, now i changed and deleted them just to be sure.

My filters: https://postimg.org/image/7hyhzkn2xn/

As i can see, there is no super brightness with default settings, so there is some problem in my settings... here they are: http://www95.zippyshare.com/v/Sf5ZlMlX/file.html Btw, i'm trying and trying and now i barely see a difference :P Maybe you can see it. I'm thinking, i tried to reset madvr settings after i edited the name file... maybe the problem was really there? :O

Here is the sample, hope it works well and there is no problems with link i posted: http://www36.zippyshare.com/v/lg0Ao7x0/file.html

Thanks!